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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
raheelp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States54 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 09:59:26
March 15 2011 09:49 GMT
#2701
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12740843

A third blast hits reactor 2, damaging the containment vessel. The radiation is now free to leak out.

"The warning comes after the plant was rocked by a third blast which appears to have damaged one of the reactors' containment vessels for the first time."

"Radiation levels around Fukushima for one hour's exposure rose to eight times the legal limit for exposure in one year, said the plant's operator, the Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco)."



User was warned for this post
Kr1pos
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway67 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 09:58:58
March 15 2011 09:52 GMT
#2702
On March 15 2011 18:49 raheelp wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-12740843

A third blast hits reactor 3, damaging the containment vessel. The radiation is now free to leak out.

Damaged != breached, as the article points out.

Edit:
Although, the "analysis"-section says: "It appears that for the first time, the containment system around one of the Fukushima Daiichi reactors has been breached." Seems like speculation on their part though.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27178 Posts
March 15 2011 09:54 GMT
#2703
I'm getting tired of posts which are selectively edited to distort the situation. If you are going to post, do a thorough job please. I'm tired of fact checking everything.
ModeratorGodfather
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 09:57:47
March 15 2011 09:54 GMT
#2704
It's what German media is reporting as well, citing "Jiji Press" and the Japanese nuclear safety agency. Two 8sqm holes are reported in the containment unit of reactor 2.

Edit: This is from about 30 minutes ago.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
March 15 2011 09:56 GMT
#2705
Yeah, raheelp's BBC article is wrong on so many details, plus it's like half a day old.

Please stop posting foreign media's rehashed, inaccurate "stories" that have already been accurately detailed with direct Japanese sources.
furymonkey
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand1587 Posts
March 15 2011 09:58 GMT
#2706
I think the raise in radiation is due to the fact they are pumping in sea water, since water isn't pure, it becomes more dirty (radioactive) as time passes. Since they have to left off the steam, so that might be the reason for the radiation increase around the facility as well the region.

My hope is the actual reactor and contaiment is still holding up.
Leenock the Punisher
TearsOfTheSun
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada995 Posts
March 15 2011 10:00 GMT
#2707
the last report i heard was there was a fire in reactor 4. but it was put out. and #2 was causing a lot of trouble. #3 was the worst for a while but it and #1 are "stable" now. can anyone correct me? is my info wrong? im not trying to start an argument or give wrong information.
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raheelp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States54 Posts
March 15 2011 10:02 GMT
#2708
How dismissive to treat a serious situation like this.

I'm sorry the reality of the situation conflicts with your views.

Is the radiation reading a lie? give me a break.
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
March 15 2011 10:03 GMT
#2709
On March 15 2011 18:54 zatic wrote:
It's what German media is reporting as well, citing "Jiji Press" and the Japanese nuclear safety agency. Two 8sqm holes are reported in the containment unit of reactor 2.

Edit: This is from about 30 minutes ago.


The german media is reporting of 8 sqm holes in the wall of reactor 4. So nothing too bad. (I guess they mean the wall that was fully blown away at 1, 2 and 3 right?).

They don't report of such holes in the containment of reactor 2.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
March 15 2011 10:05 GMT
#2710
On March 15 2011 19:03 Keniji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 18:54 zatic wrote:
It's what German media is reporting as well, citing "Jiji Press" and the Japanese nuclear safety agency. Two 8sqm holes are reported in the containment unit of reactor 2.

Edit: This is from about 30 minutes ago.


The german media is reporting of 8 sqm holes in the wall of reactor 4. So nothing too bad. (I guess they mean the wall that was fully blown away at 1, 2 and 3 right?).

They don't report of such holes in the containment of reactor 2.

Yes, it's the wall of the building. Watching NHK news now, I can see the huge crack.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 10:07:54
March 15 2011 10:06 GMT
#2711
a press conference of the correspondents club of japan should be taking place right now. http://www.fccj.or.jp/node/6483
"Goto & Kamisawa, Third Update on Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant"
does anybody have a live link????


EDIT I have found it!: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/videonews-com-live
tune in guys!
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
March 15 2011 10:07 GMT
#2712
NHK ustream:
Radiation levels at the front gate of Fukushima I
@9:00 11930 uSv (11.9 mSv)
@15:30 519.4 uSv
Kr1pos
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway67 Posts
March 15 2011 10:07 GMT
#2713
On March 15 2011 19:02 raheelp wrote:
How dismissive to treat a serious situation like this.

I'm sorry the reality of the situation conflicts with your views.

Is the radiation reading a lie? give me a break.

A breach which allows the nuclear fuel to leak out is a VERY different situation from elevated levels of radiation due to e.g. released steam.
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 15 2011 10:09 GMT
#2714
There was just another M6 again...

Normally I wouldn't worry, but with the reactors about to sneeze it's a little scary.
raheelp
Profile Joined November 2010
United States54 Posts
March 15 2011 10:10 GMT
#2715
On March 15 2011 19:07 Kr1pos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 19:02 raheelp wrote:
How dismissive to treat a serious situation like this.

I'm sorry the reality of the situation conflicts with your views.

Is the radiation reading a lie? give me a break.

A breach which allows the nuclear fuel to leak out is a VERY different situation from elevated levels of radiation due to e.g. released steam.


breached containment vessel = radiation leak.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
March 15 2011 10:10 GMT
#2716
On March 15 2011 19:05 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 19:03 Keniji wrote:
On March 15 2011 18:54 zatic wrote:
It's what German media is reporting as well, citing "Jiji Press" and the Japanese nuclear safety agency. Two 8sqm holes are reported in the containment unit of reactor 2.

Edit: This is from about 30 minutes ago.


The german media is reporting of 8 sqm holes in the wall of reactor 4. So nothing too bad. (I guess they mean the wall that was fully blown away at 1, 2 and 3 right?).

They don't report of such holes in the containment of reactor 2.

Yes, it's the wall of the building. Watching NHK news now, I can see the huge crack.

Yeah it was actually updated since I read it. Said containment on #2 just minutes ago.

I'll go back to reading proper articles I suppose. This LR style reporting is pretty ridiculous.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
fanta[Rn]
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Japan2465 Posts
March 15 2011 10:11 GMT
#2717
On March 15 2011 19:09 dump wrote:
There was just another M6 again...

Normally I wouldn't worry, but with the reactors about to sneeze it's a little scary.

region?
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
March 15 2011 10:14 GMT
#2718
Stuff is just confusing and articles not formulated clearly. There seem to be texts with "mSv" where "m" is used for "µ", because the "µ" is not on keyboards outside of Greece. A sentence talking about holes in reactor 4: does this mean the containment has the holes or did the author not mean "reactor 4" but "reactor 4 building" and the holes are in the building?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Kr1pos
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway67 Posts
March 15 2011 10:15 GMT
#2719
On March 15 2011 19:10 raheelp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 19:07 Kr1pos wrote:
On March 15 2011 19:02 raheelp wrote:
How dismissive to treat a serious situation like this.

I'm sorry the reality of the situation conflicts with your views.

Is the radiation reading a lie? give me a break.

A breach which allows the nuclear fuel to leak out is a VERY different situation from elevated levels of radiation due to e.g. released steam.


breached containment vessel = radiation leak.

Point is, a breach isn't confirmed. The article even mentions the fire in reactor 4 might be the source of the elevated radiation.

I'm not downplaying the seriousness of a possible breach, but don't go around saying "the radiation is now free to leak out" if it's not definite.
Dimagus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1004 Posts
March 15 2011 10:18 GMT
#2720
NHK ustream is reporting that the radiation in the 20km evacuation zone has ranged from one hundredth of the normal radiation for a year to no increase.
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