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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
March 15 2011 08:22 GMT
#2661
Ok, I am officially worry now after being calm for a long time. My GF is working in Tokyo, rightnow, she is asking me if she needs to leave Japan because there is a chance of Nuclear "problem". I need some expert advice here.
What is the chance of Japan have serious problem with their nuclear reator(I avoid using meltdown here) and if such occur, will it have much effect on people in Tokyo?
Terran
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
March 15 2011 08:27 GMT
#2662
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet. America sending in 8 more nuclear scientist, and people are asked to evacuate within a 20km radius due to the rise in radiation levels.
Dear Sixsmith...
Ingruz
Profile Joined May 2010
Italy380 Posts
March 15 2011 08:31 GMT
#2663
people were already evacuated within 20 km... now there is also a no-fly zone of 30km radius I think
My life for Aiur!
Shuffleus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia764 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 08:40:11
March 15 2011 08:32 GMT
#2664
Couldn't find this posted anywhere previously, amazing time-lapse showing the frequency of the earthquakes.

Every second in the video is 1 hour, extending for a whole week leading up to and following the 9.0 quake.

| QuanticGaming.com | There is no greater feeling then to find order in the chaos, as you slip the puzzle pieces in place.
Rus_Brain
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Russian Federation1894 Posts
March 15 2011 08:34 GMT
#2665
DJ: Russia Ready To "Evacuate Islands" Over Japan Risk
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patyrykin.net
e4e5nf3
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada599 Posts
March 15 2011 08:34 GMT
#2666
On March 15 2011 17:22 Caphe wrote:
Ok, I am officially worry now after being calm for a long time. My GF is working in Tokyo, rightnow, she is asking me if she needs to leave Japan because there is a chance of Nuclear "problem". I need some expert advice here.
What is the chance of Japan have serious problem with their nuclear reator(I avoid using meltdown here) and if such occur, will it have much effect on people in Tokyo?


Not to belittle your post, but it's kind of scary if people in Japan have to rely on a foreign progaming site to get information about possible dangers of a Japanese nuclear plant meltdown instead of the local government.
King takes Queen
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
March 15 2011 08:34 GMT
#2667
On March 15 2011 17:32 MooiSh wrote:
Couldn't find this posted anywhere previously, Amazing time-lapse showing the frequency of the earthquakes.

Every Second in the video is 1 hour, extending for a whole week leading up to and following the 9.0 quake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xylDxj6-9dY


watching that makes me feel really bad for japan, you can see them just sitting there helpless along that fault line
Electric.Jesus
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany755 Posts
March 15 2011 08:36 GMT
#2668
On March 15 2011 17:32 MooiSh wrote:
Couldn't find this posted anywhere previously, Amazing time-lapse showing the frequency of the earthquakes.

Every Second in the video is 1 hour, extending for a whole week leading up to and following the 9.0 quake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xylDxj6-9dY


WTF? Video blocked in Germany due to UMG content?

Also, I read that it is, as of yet, uncertain whether containment at Fukushima Daini (reactor 2) withstood the explosion. I really hope it did.
"Sir, the enemy has us sourrounded" - "Excellent, now we can attack in any direction!"
Lythox
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands161 Posts
March 15 2011 08:40 GMT
#2669
On March 15 2011 17:22 Caphe wrote:
Ok, I am officially worry now after being calm for a long time. My GF is working in Tokyo, rightnow, she is asking me if she needs to leave Japan because there is a chance of Nuclear "problem". I need some expert advice here.
What is the chance of Japan have serious problem with their nuclear reator(I avoid using meltdown here) and if such occur, will it have much effect on people in Tokyo?

Ask her to leave imo. I don't know how important being there is for her, but if it's not life changing I'd really not want to risk her dying there. Safety is more important than a few dollars and this is one if the biggest disasters in years.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 08:43:58
March 15 2011 08:41 GMT
#2670
On March 15 2011 17:22 Caphe wrote:
Ok, I am officially worry now after being calm for a long time. My GF is working in Tokyo, rightnow, she is asking me if she needs to leave Japan because there is a chance of Nuclear "problem". I need some expert advice here.
What is the chance of Japan have serious problem with their nuclear reator(I avoid using meltdown here) and if such occur, will it have much effect on people in Tokyo?


Media is saying that they have calculated the radiation level higher than it normally is in Tokyo. But i'd say wait till it gets worse/Tokyo is giving a warning to the people living there. I wouldn't move right know anywhere if i were your GF. As long as he stays mostly inside and does work inside, there isn't that much of a risk to get sick.

The chances of japan having a nuclear disaster with similar consequences that Ukraine had with Chernobyl, i really cant say since im not anywhere near expert. It looks bad to my eyes right know. Lots of mistakes done already with the coolings, lots of fires going on etc.

I hope your gf is going to be okay and everything gets solved the way its best.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Astans
Profile Joined October 2010
205 Posts
March 15 2011 08:42 GMT
#2671
On March 15 2011 17:22 Caphe wrote:
Ok, I am officially worry now after being calm for a long time. My GF is working in Tokyo, rightnow, she is asking me if she needs to leave Japan because there is a chance of Nuclear "problem". I need some expert advice here.
What is the chance of Japan have serious problem with their nuclear reator(I avoid using meltdown here) and if such occur, will it have much effect on people in Tokyo?


Latest news don't look quite so badly. No need to leave right now, but of course things can change.
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 08:47:22
March 15 2011 08:42 GMT
#2672
Received a phone message (I'm in Beijing) starting with "BBC FLASHNEWS" and saying that people in "asian countries" should take precautions such as staying indoors, applying betadine on neck, and that "radiation may hit Phillipines" starting from 4pm, which is half an hour ago. It doesn't match with any of the info I've read up to now and it's ridden with language mistakes so I guess it's just a fear-mongering viral hoax (at the end it tells you to fwd the message to your friends). Annoying.
ellerina
Profile Joined April 2010
Philippines452 Posts
March 15 2011 08:47 GMT
#2673
On March 15 2011 17:42 Matoo- wrote:
Received a phone message (I'm in Beijing) starting with "BBC FLASHNEWS" and saying that people in "asian countries" should take precautions such as staying indoors, applying betadine on neck, and that "radiation may hit Phillipines" starting from 4pm (which is half an hour ago). It doesn't match with any of the info I've read up to now and it's ridden with language mistakes so I guess it's just a fear-mongering hoax... fucking stupid.


Yeah, it's a hoax. Some schools and universities here actually suspended school yesterday due to that text without verifying first, jeez.
Still round the corner there may wait , A new road or a secret gate /And though I oft have passed them by, A day will come at last when I /Shall take the hidden paths that run/West of the Moon, East of the Sun
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
March 15 2011 08:48 GMT
#2674
On March 15 2011 17:34 e4e5nf3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 17:22 Caphe wrote:
Ok, I am officially worry now after being calm for a long time. My GF is working in Tokyo, rightnow, she is asking me if she needs to leave Japan because there is a chance of Nuclear "problem". I need some expert advice here.
What is the chance of Japan have serious problem with their nuclear reator(I avoid using meltdown here) and if such occur, will it have much effect on people in Tokyo?


Not to belittle your post, but it's kind of scary if people in Japan have to rely on a foreign progaming site to get information about possible dangers of a Japanese nuclear plant meltdown instead of the local government.


To be fair I guess it's pretty hard to determine what information of reliable unless you have decent understanding of how a nuclear power plant works. Most media sources are reporting different things, many of them probably exaggerating or discussing worst case scenarios. The Japanese government on the other hand are probably downplaying the issue and not releasing all information available.

Asking for someone more knowledgeable to access the situation in this case is not really a bad idea, rather a quite sound one. Albeit on a gaming site.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Zidane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1689 Posts
March 15 2011 08:50 GMT
#2675
I think we all know by now that TL is more than just a gaming site. We have a very supportive community that covers a broad range of areas.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27157 Posts
March 15 2011 08:51 GMT
#2676
At this moment, panic in Tokyo (such as fleeing or buying out goods) is a much greater danger than the radiation. People are out stocking up on supplies, creating shortages for those hit by the tsunami.
ModeratorGodfather
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27157 Posts
March 15 2011 08:53 GMT
#2677
Renamed thread to be broader in scope.
ModeratorGodfather
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 09:00:56
March 15 2011 08:53 GMT
#2678
On March 15 2011 17:48 Badboyrune wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 17:34 e4e5nf3 wrote:
On March 15 2011 17:22 Caphe wrote:
Ok, I am officially worry now after being calm for a long time. My GF is working in Tokyo, rightnow, she is asking me if she needs to leave Japan because there is a chance of Nuclear "problem". I need some expert advice here.
What is the chance of Japan have serious problem with their nuclear reator(I avoid using meltdown here) and if such occur, will it have much effect on people in Tokyo?


Not to belittle your post, but it's kind of scary if people in Japan have to rely on a foreign progaming site to get information about possible dangers of a Japanese nuclear plant meltdown instead of the local government.


To be fair I guess it's pretty hard to determine what information of reliable unless you have decent understanding of how a nuclear power plant works. Most media sources are reporting different things, many of them probably exaggerating or discussing worst case scenarios. The Japanese government on the other hand are probably downplaying the issue and not releasing all information available.

Asking for someone more knowledgeable to access the situation in this case is not really a bad idea, rather a quite sound one. Albeit on a gaming site.


TEPCO isn't telling much about the situation at all. Last press conference they were just apologizing all the time instead of answering to the questions people asked. Thats why the goverment is getting frustrated also. (cursing in the media because of it) They are enlargening the safe-area or whatever little by little all the time, which could mean bad if you think about it. There is raising radiation levels eventhough media is saying that everything is under control.

So yeah, i'd say its pretty damn hard to determine what information is reliable. Especially when the people who knows best aren't telling shit about it.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 08:56:52
March 15 2011 08:55 GMT
#2679
People are having way too much fun with the whole nuclear meltdown scare.

Someone at my university orchestra today asked me "when is the radiation reaching here?" x_x

There's the pro-nuke lobby exaggerating the good news (someone apparently said that the radiation becomes harmless as soon as it touches the air??), and then there's the anti-nuke lobby along with doomsday freaks and sensationalist press exaggerating the bad news.

They need to realize that the panic caused by their ridiculous pranks and exploitations are risking people's lives as well as the economy of an entire fucking region.
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-15 08:59:25
March 15 2011 08:57 GMT
#2680
The peoples who stream are the members of Citizens' Nuclear Information Center(CNIC) which

works to create nuclear free world.


Those people are just as bad as the media fear-mongering about fallout here in the US. Nuclear power is much cleaner, and safer than any other kind of energy except solar and hydroelectric and those are not cost efficient nor do they have the capacity to come anywhere close to meeting demand. Any chemical or nuclear engineer will tell you most of the scenarios organizations like these and the media are projecting are completely bogus. It is because of fear-mongering like this that the US has not built a nuclear power plant in forever and is still polluting the environment as badly as we were 10 years ago.

The Japanese people have shown great character throughout this disaster and I have no doubt they will show the same character in their recovery not letting something like this stop them from building nuclear power plants and being on the cutting edge of progress as they have been for the last 20-30 years.
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