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Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
December 17 2010 15:18 GMT
#41
Unbelievably fascinating. I really wonder what those people have done to be stuck in such awful life conditions, or if they were just born into the city and that is the life they know? I wouldn't be surprised if most of us had benefited in some way from the city before it was taken down. Kind of wild that it was eventually destroyed. If so much of Hong Kong used it as a cheap way to get labor, then maybe it was better as the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. u
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 15:22:46
December 17 2010 15:21 GMT
#42
Dude they could walk out and in as they pleased..... Its just that it's tax free, lawless, unregulated in that specific square block of an area.

AND AT THE ABOVE POSTERS..
please make the distinction between KOWLOON and KOWLOON WALLED CITY.
HONG KONG = NEW YORK
HONG KONG ISALND = MANHATTAN
KOWLOON = BROOKLYN??
KOWLOON WALLED CITY = about the size of 2 high schools
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
101TFP
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
420 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 15:57:34
December 17 2010 15:54 GMT
#43
For someone who only knows this kind of stuff from movies this might seem "awesome".

But I don't think that it was that awesome in reality at all.
It was basically the slave quarters of the city.
(With all its consequences. Nobody has a real chance of getting out to get a better life. The only ones possibly profiting from the people inside are the ones on the outside/insiders rich enough through exploitation of others to go outside)
People get what they get, this has nothing to do with what they deserve.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
December 17 2010 15:59 GMT
#44
It's basically the Chinese version of a Brazilian favela.

There was a hong kong movie, time and tide where they had a sniper fight inside the city, the scene was unreal.
Rillanon.au
Epoch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada257 Posts
December 17 2010 16:53 GMT
#45
Kewl ^^. Glad lots of people are into this.

Check this out, it's the Kowloon Walled City level in the new COD: Black Ops game.



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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 17 2010 17:07 GMT
#46
I read about this a long time ago, it's amazing. There's also a Japanese island city that's been completely abandoned, so it's a modern-looking city that's overgrown by vines and eerie looking. Can't recall the name atm.
manGomaGic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada94 Posts
December 17 2010 17:12 GMT
#47
This is so interesting and intriguing! Going to definitely check out the youtube documentary when I get home later.
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braammbolius
Profile Joined May 2005
179 Posts
December 17 2010 17:16 GMT
#48
Thx alot for sharing OP, never heard of this before, but maybe Ridley Scott did?
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2196 Posts
December 17 2010 17:32 GMT
#49
Thanks for sharing, OP! Really enjoyed the read. This especially:

By knocking down walls and creating routes, people had made it possible to travel the entire length of the city without even touching the ground.


seems like an amazing thing to put in a book, haha.
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Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
December 17 2010 17:37 GMT
#50
Thats actually really cool. Never knew something like this existed.
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KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
December 17 2010 17:38 GMT
#51
Very interesting thread and amazing documentary, really enjoyed it. =]
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
December 17 2010 17:38 GMT
#52
On December 17 2010 23:24 Fzero wrote:
Gibson novel material for sure.


Well actually, Gibson's Idoru features a virtual setting that's based on Kowloon walled city.

The filmmaker, Stephen Chow, grew up there and he sort of makes a homage to it in Kung Fu Hustle with Pig Sty Alley.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 18:13:45
December 17 2010 17:47 GMT
#53
On December 18 2010 02:07 deth2munkies wrote:
I read about this a long time ago, it's amazing. There's also a Japanese island city that's been completely abandoned, so it's a modern-looking city that's overgrown by vines and eerie looking. Can't recall the name atm.


The one you're talking about is Hashima Island. I've watched a documentary about it, pretty cool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashima_Island

I've lived in Hong Kong for 10 years. I knew about it, but this is a bit before my time...

Edit: Wait, I was already in Hong Kong when the place still stood, but I was too young to understand what was going on.
靈魂交響曲
MementoMori
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada419 Posts
December 17 2010 17:49 GMT
#54
This was really interesting thanks for posting! Law and order has always been a big interest of mine. I find it really telling that order can be kept by a mafia of sorts. I truly believe that people know how to behave when the effects of crime are clear to see (a small area) and punishments are severe (probably true given that policing was done through organized crime). It's ironic, sometimes throughout history organized crime has been better at avoiding crime in general, yet by definition organized crime commits crimes themselves.
for the world is hollow and I have touched the sky
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 17:53:54
December 17 2010 17:52 GMT
#55
On December 17 2010 23:24 Fzero wrote:
Gibson novel material for sure.


Gibson already used the Walled City (and similar concepts) in the Bridge trilogy, most notably in the novel Idoru.

A great book, not only for the inclusion of the Virtual Walled City but also for the other concepts that are explored (nanotechnology, information nodes and AI).

Edit: Didn't see the post 3 above mine. -.-
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 17:56:54
December 17 2010 17:56 GMT
#56
Oh, just some extra information. The name "Kowloon" is derived from the rough Cantonese pronunciation of 九龍, which means Nine Dragon. (九=Nine, 龍=Dragon)

You can basically call this "The Nine Dragons' Fortress".
Sounds cooler
靈魂交響曲
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
December 17 2010 18:33 GMT
#57
I hear about this all the time, but never actually seen it myself. Great read.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 17 2010 18:41 GMT
#58
wish they kept the place.

would have liked to visit it but i was too yougn back thne T__T
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Aerox
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Malaysia1213 Posts
December 17 2010 18:44 GMT
#59
On December 17 2010 21:44 ain wrote:
The city of Kaineng in Guild Wars: Factions looks a lot like this and spreads over half the continent iirc, but its not quite as convoluted. It was fun running around in it and I'd definitely go to Kowloon if it still existed today.



On December 18 2010 00:08 TheAntZ wrote:
Oh my god...other then reminding me of all the sci fi movies and books and anime, this also reminds me a lot of a region in the MMO Guild wars...you'll know what im talking about if you've played it


Another post for Guild Wars' Kaineng City (Factions). I'd say the closest similarity is the rooftops. One of my favourite levels/environments ever in a game.
"Eyes in the sky."
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
December 17 2010 18:47 GMT
#60
Crazy. seems like something out of the matrix. Thanks for sharing
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
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