Kowloon Walled City | Something out of a science fiction story,
Until recently, I had no idea that such a place ever existed and I just find it so facinating. It sparks my imagination. So I thought other people might think it's as cool as I do so I'm sharing what I've learned here. It's such a unique, spontaneous, and odd thing to happen within a civilization.
Kowloon Walled City was a densely populated, largely ungoverned settlement in Kowloon, Hong Kong. Originally a Chinese military fort, the Walled City became an enclave after the New Territories were leased to Britain in 1898. Its population increased dramatically following the Japanese occupation of Hong Kong during World War II. From the 1950s to the 1970s, it was controlled by Triads and had high rates of prostitution, gambling, and drug use. In 1987, the Walled City contained 33,000 residents within its 6.5-acre (0.03 km2; 0.01 sq mi) borders.
In January 1987, the Hong Kong government announced plans to demolish the Walled City. After an arduous eviction process, demolition began in March 1993 and was completed in April 1994. Kowloon Walled City Park opened in December 1995 and occupies the area of the former Walled City. Some historical artifacts from the Walled City, including its yamen building and remnants of its South Gate, have been preserved there.
As can be seen in the picture below, this is a city that was so densely populated and poorly designed that they literaly built themselves into a box. There were few avenues to get into the actual city, and when you entered it was a labyrinth. By knocking down walls and creating routes, people had made it possible to travel the entire length of the city without even touching the ground.
Kowloon Walled City was basically governed by the triads and was the center of alot of drug labs and crime. However most of the people that lived there were just averege honest, hardworking people that werent different from the citizens of Hong Kong. The outside was lined with store fronts. The city had it's own factories, businesses, and production facilities where they produced food and other goods for Hong Kong.
Alot of the electricity was run through massive amount of extension cords that the people rigged up throughout the city. Most people got their water from watering holes that were established by the community, tho some of the richer people had faucets of their own.
Many of the people in Kowloon Walled City allegedly lived happy lives. Their living conditions were absolutely filthy but most of what they were taught in school apparently had to do with hygene. They had to learn to be very hygenic personally to not get sick in such gruesome conditions. Some children that had been born inside had never even seen the outside world until they were adults.
On becomming an Urban Settlement from Wikipedia -
After Japan's surrender, China announced its intent to reclaim its rights to the Walled City. Refugees poured in to take advantage of Chinese protection, and 2,000 squatters occupied the Walled City by 1947. After a failed attempt to drive them out in 1948, the British adopted a 'hands-off' policy in most matters concerning the Walled City. With no government enforcement from the Chinese or the British save for a few raids by the Hong Kong Police, the Walled City became a haven for crime and drugs. It was only during a 1959 trial for a murder that occurred within the Walled City that the Hong Kong government was ruled to have jurisdiction there. By this time, however, the Walled City was virtually ruled by the organized crime syndicates known as Triads.
Beginning in the 1950s, Triad groups such as the 14K and Sun Yee On gained a stranglehold on the Walled City's countless brothels, gambling parlors, and opium dens. The Walled City had become such a haven for criminals that police would only venture into it in large groups. It was not until 1973–74, when a series of more than 3,500 police raids resulted in over 2,500 arrests and over 4,000 pounds of seized drugs, that the Triads' power began to wane. With public support, particularly from younger residents, the continued raids gradually eroded drug use and violent crime. In 1983, the police commander of the Kowloon City District declared the Walled City's crime rate to be under control.
One of the outer edges of the City. The City also underwent massive construction during the 1960s and 1970s. Eight municipal pipes provided water to the entire structure (although more could have come from wells). A few of the streets were illuminated by fluorescent lights, as sunlight rarely reached the lower levels. Although the rampant crime of earlier decades diminished in later years, the Walled City was still known for its high number of unlicensed doctors and dentists, who could operate there without threat of prosecution.
Although the Walled City was for many years a hotbed of criminal activity, most residents were not involved in any crime and lived peacefully within its walls. Numerous small factories and businesses thrived inside the Walled City, and some residents formed groups to organize and improve daily life there. An attempt by the government in 1963 to demolish some shacks in a corner of the City gave rise to an "anti-demolition committee" that served as the basis for a Kaifong association. Charities, religious societies, and other welfare groups were gradually introduced to the City. While medical clinics and schools went unregulated, the Hong Kong government did provide some services, such as water supply and mail delivery.
Kowloon Walled City was eventually destroyed in 1993 when the chinese government took extensive amounts of time and effort evicting the 33 thousand estimated inhabitants. Today in it's place stands the Kowloon Walled City Park.
The city has been depicted in a few video games and movies. Remember the movie Blood Sport? Well that took place in Kowloon Walled City. It was also in the game Shenmue and most recently appears as a level in COD: Black Ops.
Kowloon Walled City, which was situated just outside Hong Kong, was one of the world’s most fantastical abandoned cities. If you’re a sci-fi fan, your antennas will reel and your imagination run wild at these pics and the story of how the city, which started out as a British/Japanese base for watching pirate activity soon became a lawless post-apocalyptic gotham city of sorts, creating a world within it’s densely packed, stacked columns of living quarters and businesses. It’s the stuff movies and books are made of.
Photos show inside views of Kowloon Walled City before it was eventually demolished in 1993 for health and safety violations (they say a number of floors from the ground floor up had actually become inhospitable for years because of the rubbish that collected there). The city’s inhabitants were a culture and society unto themselves, building additions onto the city, drilling wells and tapping into nearby city’s water sources. The building went up so high that sunlight no longer passed down to the floor, creating a dense, dark and damp breeding ground not just for health hazards but a thriving underworld for druglords, prostitutions, assasins and various low-life, illuminated by fluroscent lights and lamps.
A rare beam of sunlight passes through the stacks.
After the city was demolished, a historical park was built on site, where you can go see some remnants of the city that still exist.
It's so hard to explain what Kowloon Walled City was like with just words. Luckily I found an excellent German + English subbed documentary of a crew that went inside the city and filmed in 1989. This is excellent if you have any interest in this at all I urge you to watch this. The images of the city, the stories are breath taking.
There's so much more you could say about Kowloon Walled City. There is plenty more information online along with tons of photos and videos. Some very kewl stuff. Feel free to add anything Kowloon Walled City related to this thread. ^_^
holy shit this is amazing, like something from samurai 7 or some sci-fi steampunk movie. too bad it was demolished, would have been real freaking awesome.
Pretty incredible, it looks like the setting of a dystopian far future sci-fi novel where overpopulation has caused the occupation of every piece of land available. Fascinating stuff!
Wow, I'm lost for words. I didn't know that this ever existed either.
Everyone is right, it's like a dystopian labyrinth straight out of an anime. For obvious reasons it needed to be demolished, but it's the closest that any of us could have got to living in the futuristic lawless shithole that we see in many games/movies.
Watching documentary immediately. Thanks for sharing!
Reminds me Cowboy Bebop and Ghost in the Shell series. I believe there are more existing buildings/blocks similar to this in Hong Kong, just not that aged.
i knew of the walled city before and yes, its fascinating. it had a population density of 1.3 million people per square km! sick... for comparison: densely populated western cities have a population density of about 3000-16000 ppl/km². one of the most densely populated places on earth, a gigantic slum in mumbai, has a density of 500k ppl/km².... and the walled city still had almost three times as much density.
The city of Kaineng in Guild Wars: Factions looks a lot like this and spreads over half the continent iirc, but its not quite as convoluted. It was fun running around in it and I'd definitely go to Kowloon if it still existed today.
Wow I was just in HK over the summer too, never knew about Kowloon's history. That's very interesting, I know a few fobs that go to my university that are from Kowloon.
I knew about this place already, it looked fucking crazy and would have been interesting to visit. We're all saying it's a shame that it was destroyed but it must have sucked pretty bad to actually live in it.
I've been to the park a few times, but it's hard to get an idea of what it was really like without something like that documentary, thanks for the link. Nowadays even the dingiest places in Hong Kong look far better than the walled city.
Makes me realise how lucky I have it. Lifes really shit right now because I can't walk properlly but I still only have to work 7 hours a day get paid well and go back to a nice clean warm apartment. Its horrible the conditions some people live in this world.
Surprissed how many people think its bad it was destroyed. It may be unique and a bit of a land mark but it must have been truely horrible place and perpeutrates horrible bascially slave working conditions for so many people. What kind of life is it if you work 12 hours a day 7 hours a week doing the same repetative manual labour.
Reminds me of this video
in the way of its really impresive in a really depressing can't believe this shit happens way.
Kowloon =/= Kowloon Walled City. It was a very very small area within the larger Kowloon area, tho very very dense, free of law and government. IE. you could kill someone in there and walk out and not be accountable to the colonial government (tho u'd be accountable legally to mainland china.....)
Basically the Colonial Government couldn't legally do jackshit within the walled area until after the Falkland War, where China was like "give us back HK" and the Brits were like "Wait then let us clear the walled city out" and China was like "OK fine lol".
I won't say Kowloon Walled City was dystopian... just lawless. Mexico's worse by 100 fold any given day.
Oh my god...other then reminding me of all the sci fi movies and books and anime, this also reminds me a lot of a region in the MMO Guild wars...you'll know what im talking about if you've played it
On December 17 2010 23:36 Greg_J wrote: Makes me realise how lucky I have it. Lifes really shit right now because I can't walk properlly but I still only have to work 7 hours a day get paid well and go back to a nice clean warm apartment. Its horrible the conditions some people live in this world.
Surprissed how many people think its bad it was destroyed. It may be unique and a bit of a land mark but it must have been truely horrible place and perpeutrates horrible bascially slave working conditions for so many people. What kind of life is it if you work 12 hours a day 7 hours a week doing the same repetative manual labour.
in the way of its really impresive in a really depressing can't believe this shit happens way.
That's what a factory worker in the nice glittery cities of shanghai do. i doubt many held steady jobs in a place like kowloon, considering it was almost completely shut off to the outside world as far as commerce
Thats really awesome place if you look from outside and dont have live in there.
On December 18 2010 00:04 Escape wrote: yeah.. it's sad that everything interesting in HK that were left over from the British colony era are being demolished or replaced.
Damn the current government.
I think the government did the right thing. Once again, looking from outside and visiting the place sounds fun, but imo living in there seems like not so good.
Unbelievably fascinating. I really wonder what those people have done to be stuck in such awful life conditions, or if they were just born into the city and that is the life they know? I wouldn't be surprised if most of us had benefited in some way from the city before it was taken down. Kind of wild that it was eventually destroyed. If so much of Hong Kong used it as a cheap way to get labor, then maybe it was better as the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. u
Dude they could walk out and in as they pleased..... Its just that it's tax free, lawless, unregulated in that specific square block of an area.
AND AT THE ABOVE POSTERS.. please make the distinction between KOWLOON and KOWLOON WALLED CITY. HONG KONG = NEW YORK HONG KONG ISALND = MANHATTAN KOWLOON = BROOKLYN?? KOWLOON WALLED CITY = about the size of 2 high schools
For someone who only knows this kind of stuff from movies this might seem "awesome".
But I don't think that it was that awesome in reality at all. It was basically the slave quarters of the city. (With all its consequences. Nobody has a real chance of getting out to get a better life. The only ones possibly profiting from the people inside are the ones on the outside/insiders rich enough through exploitation of others to go outside)
I read about this a long time ago, it's amazing. There's also a Japanese island city that's been completely abandoned, so it's a modern-looking city that's overgrown by vines and eerie looking. Can't recall the name atm.
On December 18 2010 02:07 deth2munkies wrote: I read about this a long time ago, it's amazing. There's also a Japanese island city that's been completely abandoned, so it's a modern-looking city that's overgrown by vines and eerie looking. Can't recall the name atm.
This was really interesting thanks for posting! Law and order has always been a big interest of mine. I find it really telling that order can be kept by a mafia of sorts. I truly believe that people know how to behave when the effects of crime are clear to see (a small area) and punishments are severe (probably true given that policing was done through organized crime). It's ironic, sometimes throughout history organized crime has been better at avoiding crime in general, yet by definition organized crime commits crimes themselves.
On December 17 2010 23:24 Fzero wrote: Gibson novel material for sure.
Gibson already used the Walled City (and similar concepts) in the Bridge trilogy, most notably in the novel Idoru.
A great book, not only for the inclusion of the Virtual Walled City but also for the other concepts that are explored (nanotechnology, information nodes and AI).
Oh, just some extra information. The name "Kowloon" is derived from the rough Cantonese pronunciation of 九龍, which means Nine Dragon. (九=Nine, 龍=Dragon)
You can basically call this "The Nine Dragons' Fortress". Sounds cooler
On December 17 2010 21:44 ain wrote: The city of Kaineng in Guild Wars: Factions looks a lot like this and spreads over half the continent iirc, but its not quite as convoluted. It was fun running around in it and I'd definitely go to Kowloon if it still existed today.
On December 18 2010 00:08 TheAntZ wrote: Oh my god...other then reminding me of all the sci fi movies and books and anime, this also reminds me a lot of a region in the MMO Guild wars...you'll know what im talking about if you've played it
Another post for Guild Wars' Kaineng City (Factions). I'd say the closest similarity is the rooftops. One of my favourite levels/environments ever in a game.
Looks cool, but what a mess this must have been for the city. I mean, what if someone at the center needed to get to a hospital? Must have been a nightmare for police as well. And I can only imagine the massive safety threats from massive amounts of random power cords, possibly contaminated water, and building code issues (what if there had been an earthquake?).
Hate to see cool historical buildings go, but sometimes unfortunately they just have no place in the modern world.
I never knew about this, it's very interesting. It reminds me a little of the movie Metropolis - I'm guessing the triads who ran the place lived on the upper levels where living conditions were better.
But to the people saying that it would have been amazing to visit: Rampant disease, prostitutes, assassins, drugs, gangs, crime...
How about you start with a nice little field trip to your local housing projects for starts, and maybe after that (if you live), you might want to visit the slums in Bangladesh, and admire the child labor facilities...
Do you have mental disorders or what? The whole damn city was demolished because of how terrible the living conditions were, and you want to go visit a place, and watch people bust their asses harder than you thought possible to earn pennies that will probably be extorted out of them? OH YAY. and then we can buy shit tons of conflict diamonds!!!
I'm trying to figure out how they manage to build high rises so close together like that. They must've built the inner buildings first before the outer ones. Otherwise, there would be no way to get the materials and vehicles necessary to lift building supplies high up in the air. But the question is why would anybody build another high rise on the periphery of something like that?
i dun see why people it is bad for the government to demolish it - it has to be demolished.
just think of if the walled city is still there up until 2003. remember what happened in east asia back then? SARS. i dun really like they make this name for the diesease as i found it offensive to us although i hate the the whole idea of administration in hong kong. but if such a place existed while SARS happened, it could way more disastrous than we had. and when we advance into age of information, the people inside are very likely to be behind times as you can imagine internet is hard to get there. not to mention that it does bring security issues to the city.
Very cool topic, thanks for sharing! Being in southern California means a lot of low urban structuring, so any kind of compact metropolis is as much fascinating as it is foreign to me.
All the references to other media people are making are pretty cool too; I had the same vision of Metropolis as well.
The Container City/Docks in Splash Damage's upcoming Brink also brings that same feel, as did a couple levels in Mirror's Edge:
On December 18 2010 08:38 lofung wrote: i dun see why people it is bad for the government to demolish it - it has to be demolished.
just think of if the walled city is still there up until 2003. remember what happened in east asia back then? SARS. i dun really like they make this name for the diesease as i found it offensive to us although i hate the the whole idea of administration in hong kong. but if such a place existed while SARS happened, it could way more disastrous than we had. and when we advance into age of information, the people inside are very likely to be behind times as you can imagine internet is hard to get there. not to mention that it does bring security issues to the city.
How is Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome offensive? Is it just the letters sars together is a swear word in hong kong or something?
On December 18 2010 08:38 lofung wrote: i dun see why people it is bad for the government to demolish it - it has to be demolished.
just think of if the walled city is still there up until 2003. remember what happened in east asia back then? SARS. i dun really like they make this name for the diesease as i found it offensive to us although i hate the the whole idea of administration in hong kong. but if such a place existed while SARS happened, it could way more disastrous than we had. and when we advance into age of information, the people inside are very likely to be behind times as you can imagine internet is hard to get there. not to mention that it does bring security issues to the city.
How is Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome offensive? Is it just the letters sars together is a swear word in hong kong or something?
Nah without severe it'd just be acute respiratory syndrome and no one would give a shit about that. Severe was for the necessitity of the panic at the time! But ya would suck to be ruled by chinese government.
not really. at that time when you heard about atypical pneumonia here, its scary enough already. and i am sure that the whole world worried about this. its just a matter of the degree how people worry.
On December 18 2010 08:38 lofung wrote: i dun see why people it is bad for the government to demolish it - it has to be demolished.
just think of if the walled city is still there up until 2003. remember what happened in east asia back then? SARS. i dun really like they make this name for the diesease as i found it offensive to us although i hate the the whole idea of administration in hong kong. but if such a place existed while SARS happened, it could way more disastrous than we had. and when we advance into age of information, the people inside are very likely to be behind times as you can imagine internet is hard to get there. not to mention that it does bring security issues to the city.
On December 18 2010 08:38 lofung wrote: i dun see why people it is bad for the government to demolish it - it has to be demolished.
just think of if the walled city is still there up until 2003. remember what happened in east asia back then? SARS. i dun really like they make this name for the diesease as i found it offensive to us although i hate the the whole idea of administration in hong kong. but if such a place existed while SARS happened, it could way more disastrous than we had. and when we advance into age of information, the people inside are very likely to be behind times as you can imagine internet is hard to get there. not to mention that it does bring security issues to the city.
should keep it just for historical value ;-; haha
there are like 0 old buildings in hk now
What? There are still tons of 唐樓. Damn, there really isn't an English word for this term. Closest I found is "tenement house".
To others who don't know, this is what they look like. Click
The Wiki page has a nice little story at the bottom about an expedition into the city. Everything from the negotiations (government and local) through to the day-to-day (7 days in total).
Just note the link is practically a geosite, just try and ignore the background, its worth it.
Wow. As a future concept artist (DONT TELL ME I CANT!) this is VERY interesting. I hope some guys pick up on this design. It's certainly sending off lights in my head for possibilities, even if it's been done before. Freaking awesome. I want to see some more close up shots of the architecture.
On December 18 2010 08:38 lofung wrote: i dun see why people it is bad for the government to demolish it - it has to be demolished.
just think of if the walled city is still there up until 2003. remember what happened in east asia back then? SARS. i dun really like they make this name for the diesease as i found it offensive to us although i hate the the whole idea of administration in hong kong. but if such a place existed while SARS happened, it could way more disastrous than we had. and when we advance into age of information, the people inside are very likely to be behind times as you can imagine internet is hard to get there. not to mention that it does bring security issues to the city.
should keep it just for historical value ;-; haha
there are like 0 old buildings in hk now
What? There are still tons of 唐樓. Damn, there really isn't an English word for this term. Closest I found is "tenement house".
To others who don't know, this is what they look like. Click
well yea but like.. have u seen pictures of central back in teh day? there were all these cool british style buildings and stuff. now its just all tall boring looking buildings.
and also.. property developers are always looking to buy those plots of land to build new commercial / residential buildings etc... so its sad
So amazing. It's like they took the essence of cyberpunk and brought it into reality! Shame they've brought the place down - would be priceless for a visit.
This thread is just golden, I usually dislike most of what gets posted on general forum (stupid/ironic news stories or people flaunting their ideologies) but this is something special!
Thank you for sharing, threadstarter! What a peculiar city...
According to Dux, the story for Bloodsport was actually set in Nassau, Bahamas even though the movie is set in Hong Kong.
Streetfighter V anime series has a couple episodes set in Kowloon Walled City, that's where I first heard of it. I figured it was just something made up lol
And for those interested in the real story behind Frank Dux here's an interesting article:
This is a Jackie Chan movie where parts of it were filmed in the Kowloon Walled City before it was destroyed, and after it was evacuated. I haven't seen it yet, but according to wikipedia there are scenes in the movie of them destroying buildings.
Pretty cool. Has anyone seen this movie? I wanna check it out.
On December 19 2010 23:36 fanta[Rn] wrote: Man I remember this from my childhood, I had no clue what it really was though. This is where I know it from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEo6ogAnoZ8
hahah that's awesome. Great catch. I don't care what anybody says I have an irrational love for that movie. I've seen it many, many times and I never really gave much thought to those lines there. Interesting stuff!
On December 23 2010 19:22 Manit0u wrote: This thread made me want to hit Guild Wars right now (and I don't have time)
Kaineng City within the game was based upon this:
Oooh got any screenshots?
Most of the screenshot are from the shack-ridden rooftops. Don't really feel like entering the game and running deeper to get you more insight right now
Was doing more searching on Kowloon Walled City. Here's what I came up with.
Kowloon Walled City was riddled with unregulated dentists. I can't read the language personally, but apparently this is a picture of a few of the KWC dentist offices side by side.
A photo of Kowloon Walled City taken in 1973.
Storefronts.
Food being prepared in this KWC production facility.
I heard about this 3 months ago. I was really fascinated and looked a lot of videos and read some posts on this. There is a japanese team who went in this city just before its destruction, and made a reportage. Just search on Google. It remembers me of Necromunda, a RPG from Games Workshop. Its really fascinating.
mixed feelings about this thread, on one side it is so unique and fascinating yet the people are living in a dump kinda with no law could spell trouble
oops. there is a new kowloon walled city docunment broadcasting in hong kong RIGHT NOW. se eif anybody want to translate it as you can freely watch it in RTHK later online.