EPTNew Prohibitions on Muhammad Cartoons? - Page 30
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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Vei
United States2845 Posts
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Facedriller
Sweden275 Posts
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Banger
Canada11 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
While I certainly don't see the point in purposely riling an individual/group for the sole reason of making them them mad, I also don't agree with rolling over to extreme demands restricting freedom of speech. | ||
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UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
On January 17 2011 08:01 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: I don't care what it is , they should have banned marriages between 1st cousins long ago to prevent this sort of this happening.It is a tragedy to see , and these fools continue to deny that marrying family relations has anything to do with it. As for the royal family remark you are talking about hundreds of years ago , not the 21st century.It is time to start living in that century , especially for these backwards muslims. Queen Victoria (24 May 1819 – 22 January 1901) married her 1st cousin Albert. This is not some prehistoric thing and it was very common until not more than 100 years ago. It is a tragedy about the children but these asian families usually have absolutely no idea about the risks. Better education is needed in asian communities (muslim, hindu and sikh). I take issue with your original implication that this is a strictly muslim thing, because it is not. Research the issue before you say such flippant islamaphobic things. | ||
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insaneMicro
Germany761 Posts
If you make fun of Jesus in arts/media, go ahead and do the same to Mohammed/Buddha/spaghetti monster. Last thing they should do is refrain from any publishing out of fear. Fear is the mind killer  | ||
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UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
On January 17 2011 08:19 Banger wrote: You do not have the right to not be offended in Western countries. If you don't like the rules then move. Yes you do have the right to be offended. The majority of the protests were all over the muslim world because they were the ones who were most offended. There wasnt much support in the UK. | ||
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UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
On January 17 2011 08:10 Vei wrote: I detest all religions but Islam and Muslims seriously just take the cake in unnecessary violence. What a joke our world is. Islamaphobia? Sorry ignorance. Watch the viewpoint of Al Jazeera.net on corruption and immorality in the western world. Who started these Middle Eastern Wars? Who invaded Iraq and exactly why? unneccesary? Its called propaganda and you have been suckered. | ||
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zqfmgb
United States34 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://cdn.nearlyfreespeech.net/jandmstatic/strips/2011-01-10.png) ![[image loading]](http://cdn.nearlyfreespeech.net/jandmstatic/strips/2010-01-08.jpg) Here is an interesting article on textbooks supplied by Saudi Arabia for children (as young as 6) of British Muslims. These books include instructions for amputations and stonings, anti-Semitism, and some more interesting practices. The entire documentary is on the BBC website. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/23/world/europe/23britain.html?_r=1 | ||
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Jswizzy
United States791 Posts
On January 17 2011 08:52 UberThing wrote: Islamaphobia? Sorry ignorance. Watch the viewpoint of Al Jazeera.net on corruption and immorality in the western world. Who started these Middle Eastern Wars? Who invaded Iraq and exactly why? unneccesary? Its called propaganda and you have been suckered. What wars are you talking about? The Middle East is rife with conflicts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_the_Middle_East But yes allot of Americans now believe that the war in Iraq is a racket and want to back out. At the time most felt the war was justifiable and believed that Iraq had WMDs and also a terrorist training ground. Members of our government lied to use and only latter has the truth came out. Democracy is like that it only works if the citizens are well informed unfortunately most American's would rather play video games and watch sex in the city then read the news or read up on the world events. | ||
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UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
On January 17 2011 09:00 zqfmgb wrote: Have you guys heard of Jesus and Mo? www.jesusandmo.net + Show Spoiler + Here is an interesting article on textbooks supplied by Saudi Arabia for children (as young as 6) of British Muslims. These books include instructions for amputations and stonings, anti-Semitism, and some more interesting practices. The entire documentary is on the BBC website. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/23/world/europe/23britain.html?_r=1 Haha! I found that funny. You have to remember it is the lunatic fringe that threatened to do violent things. Most muslims who did care peacefully protested. Funny how the USA supports Saudi Arabia fully even though Saudi citizens are the prime financiers of terrorism. Also Saudi is where the really crazy strict (I mean next level) islam ideology is coming from. Wahabiism (the strict stuff) is a relatively modern invention and it is what inspires the terrorist activities. Because they have the money they can spread this crazy strict islam. The USA needs to stop supporting them. SOURCE: Most moderate muslims in the UK | ||
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Leviathen1
United States28 Posts
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
On January 17 2011 09:16 Leviathen1 wrote: UMMMM is this about that one suicide bombing that like killed himself only(HILARIOUS) but to be honest if it is it isnt a big deal and shouldn't be worried about also to be honest i think every muslim should die OR not take their religion to the 100 percent degree as in they dont fucking try to kill every other person that isn't muslim (really what the religion depicts) but to be honest it is like this and very well put IF safety takes away freedom ALWAYS pick freedom over safety which has the general idea of i can always die but if i can't do something in my life based on a certain rule the rule isn't worth it Are you past puberty? And do you know anything about...well, anything? Read your post again and really, truly try to think about the extreme level of ignorance you have exhibited. | ||
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Nausea
Sweden807 Posts
On January 17 2011 08:52 UberThing wrote: Islamaphobia? Sorry ignorance. Watch the viewpoint of Al Jazeera.net on corruption and immorality in the western world. Its called propaganda and you have been suckered. There is no such thing as Islamaphobia, you're the one who have been owned by propaganda. Phobia is an irrational fear of something. Fearing Islam who wants to push for Sharia in the western world is not an irrational fear, it's real fear. I have no problem with muslims, most of them are good people, Islam however is another thing. | ||
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potatomash3r
Australia417 Posts
On the stance of prohibition, well I think Sweden should sack up and do whatever they please and if they choose to allow it - just be prepared to face the consequences if there are any. | ||
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Leviathen1
United States28 Posts
On January 17 2011 09:19 Elegy wrote: Are you past puberty? And do you know anything about...well, anything? Read your post again and really, truly try to think about the extreme level of ignorance you have exhibited. ignorance you say MY brother is in the military this shit isn't a joke they WANT to kill you they don't fucking care who you are or what you do they will kill you based on the sole fact that is what all muslims do when they take the koran literally and these people ARE innocent people and it isn't funny what happens and now i must explain this freedom thing but to be honest i don't want to stfu read the post understand the post then comment also i always write very brief summarys trying to get across alot of stuff as in this post is as long or longer then the first but only explains 1 detail | ||
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Jswizzy
United States791 Posts
On January 17 2011 09:32 potatomash3r wrote: Is this thread filled with bigots? There are 1.57 billion muslims in the world and hating an entire population just because a few crazies go ape shit on this is ridiculous. On the stance of prohibition, well I think Sweden should sack up and do whatever they please and if they choose to allow it - just be prepared to face the consequences if there are any. Who said anything about hating Muslims? Most of the people in this thread have stated that they respect human rights and Muslims. However Islam and every other monotheistic religion's ideologies clash with the ideas and values of a free thinking western society. | ||
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Leviathen1
United States28 Posts
On January 17 2011 09:38 Jswizzy wrote: Who said anything about hating Muslims? Most of the people in this thread have stated that they respect human rights and Muslims. However Islam and every other monotheistic religion ideologies clash with the ideas and values of a free thinking western society. i do not agree with this statement for three reasons 1. in a free western society you are allowed to be whatever religion you are as long as it does not interfere with other people's freedom 2. not all religion take away the freedom of people but just warns you of the consequences of certain actions 3. most people who think religion is bad ect do not understand it and should look into all religions in order to be able to make a statement like that | ||
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zqfmgb
United States34 Posts
On January 17 2011 09:12 UberThing wrote: Haha! I found that funny. You have to remember it is the lunatic fringe that threatened to do violent things. Most muslims who did care peacefully protested. Funny how the USA supports Saudi Arabia fully even though Saudi citizens are the prime financiers of terrorism. Also Saudi is where the really crazy strict (I mean next level) islam ideology is coming from. Wahabiism (the strict stuff) is a relatively modern invention and it is what inspires the terrorist activities. Because they have the money they can spread this crazy strict islam. The USA needs to stop supporting them. SOURCE: Most moderate muslims in the UK Not only threatened, but this "lunatic fringe" actually have, and continue to do violent things. Are their reprehensible actions justifiable due to a (assumingly majority) moderate base? Why aren't moderates more outspoken against this extremism? I agree with you 100% on Saudi Arabia. However I always assumed the ideology discussed stemmed from Sharia law, the archaic religious laws from the 7th century which still governs the various theocracies (including Saudia Arabia and "moderate" Malaysia). As you know, Britain now has a Sharia court system (and similar rudimentaries of such sprang up in the USA) which systematically promotes values such as gender inequality. A specific example of rulings in these non-Muslim Western states include permittance of sexual abuse in marriage (UK). Would this be considered moderate? | ||
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