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SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
November 23 2010 08:24 GMT
#461
Is this affecting any of the normal, everyday events of Korea? Like is there a day off of work, etc.?
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KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:25:25
November 23 2010 08:24 GMT
#462
On November 23 2010 17:21 VorcePA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:21 KonohaFlash wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:19 Slardarxt wrote:
This thread is front-page worthy right?


I don't understand this post.


TL.net is particularly partial to South Korea and its happenings because that's the heart of e-Sports currently.


Ok i understand what he was saying now lol.

ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 23 2010 08:24 GMT
#463
I'm living in Korea and everyone here is freaking the fuck out.

I know I'm pretty edgy, but screw you, "nothing has happened since the ARTILLERY ATTACK..."
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
November 23 2010 08:24 GMT
#464
On November 23 2010 17:22 Gummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:21 Bshad wrote:
So far it looks like the only country that would benefit from this conflict is US.

God Bless America? :\

Yes, because it's military forces are not already spread out, and because war is so popular there. Really, everyone actually loses. My condolences to the people afraid for their lives in Korea right now.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
November 23 2010 08:24 GMT
#465
Im prolly gonna get flamed for this. But if I was North Korea watching an island on the border and saw KR/US soldiers rehearsing an invasion then I would be a bit paranoid as well. That's assuming that this incident wasnt a calculated attack with political motives and it was a response to a perceived invasion.

Anyways I am pretty annoyed at the South Korean leadership. I know that conscription/military service is a part of life in that country and that they are a very proud people but they treat their soldiers like shit. 50 dead in a boating accident, getting shot at in a guard post then 4 dead and houses on fire in artillery attack? In any other country, a sunken warship, 50 dead soldiers and an attack on soil would be enough to resume a war. The response of the south koreans just amazes me. Its like a huge cultural wall for me to even try to understand why they won't fight back. Are soldiers lives really that expendable that you can afford a few dead here and there for "peace".
VikingKong
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China509 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:27:44
November 23 2010 08:25 GMT
#466
On November 23 2010 17:22 drhojo wrote:
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On November 23 2010 17:19 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:11 drhojo wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:10 Fenrax wrote:
If China wanted a war, they'd start one. War is the last thing China wants.

they want an excuse so that they can get public support for it.


Sub 100 poster and you're already trying to flame bait and say nonsense propaganda? Seriously just stop talking. This isn't a thread for infantile bullshit geopolitics 101.

your elitism is so much better than my "infantile bullshit geopolitics." I'm just presenting an alternate, plausible view. as someone who is from China and visits it regularly I can say with certainty you can never trust the Chinese government.

Only it's not plausible at all. Not trusting the Chinese government isn't the same as what you said. China didn't and doesn't want a war.

Tofuu. It's not about soldiers being expendable. It's about the casualties a war would case. SK has very, very high population density, especially in Seoul. Even without nuclear weapons, which NK may or may not have, conventional shelling from the borders, where they've been preparing since the "end" of the war, can hit significantly parts of Korea, including parts of Seoul. Destroying NK has never been the problem. It's the death toll of civilians that it would cause, and, even worse, the reunification of Korea.
VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
November 23 2010 08:25 GMT
#467
On November 23 2010 17:24 KonohaFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:21 VorcePA wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:21 KonohaFlash wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:19 Slardarxt wrote:
This thread is front-page worthy right?


I don't understand this post.


TL.net is particularly partial to South Korea and its happenings because that's the heart of e-Sports currently.


I don't understand why something this important should only be on the first page because TeamLiquid is partial to South Korea. Everyone is talking about this not just us gamers.


Yeah but other than GosuGamers there probably wouldn't be another gaming site reporting on this.
Shitposting
drhojo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States53 Posts
November 23 2010 08:25 GMT
#468
If you guys look up the South China Sea conflict you can see that China isn't all sugar and spice and everything nice. They are bullying dozens of countries and claiming territory from them and international waters.
You take nothing to the grave; live your life being brave.
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
November 23 2010 08:25 GMT
#469
On November 23 2010 17:22 drhojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:19 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:11 drhojo wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:10 Fenrax wrote:
If China wanted a war, they'd start one. War is the last thing China wants.

they want an excuse so that they can get public support for it.


Sub 100 poster and you're already trying to flame bait and say nonsense propaganda? Seriously just stop talking. This isn't a thread for infantile bullshit geopolitics 101.

your elitism is so much better than my "infantile bullshit geopolitics." I'm just presenting an alternate, plausible view. as someone who is from China and visits it regularly I can say with certainty you can never trust the Chinese government.


You're claiming you know the inner workings and strategic thinking of a world superpower on a topic as intricate and complex as N. Korean relations, and you think I'm being elitist? Cut the shit. Yeah, you're from China, and you don't like the gov't, great. Keep your anti-China sentiments in a thread that has China in the title. Propagandist crap like you're spouting is half the reason conflicts like the one being discussed in this thread happen in the first place. To me, your comments are more insulting and inappropriate than any of the dumb cracks about Starcraft, because they're actually the type that cause the most harm.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 23 2010 08:25 GMT
#470
On November 23 2010 17:23 Caphe wrote:
S.Korean seems to receive this news quite normally though. I have 2 Koreans friends currently sitting on my bed playing PS3 while I'm the only one monitor the situation :D

All the Koreans I know are worried/staying up, it's 3 in the morning here.
SockArms
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States591 Posts
November 23 2010 08:25 GMT
#471
Geez this could be bad I hope everything's ok over there my thoughts go out to all my friends there I hope I get emails back from them wow idk If i can sleep tonight
| Cloud9 | DK | Liquid |
MadVillain
Profile Joined June 2010
United States402 Posts
November 23 2010 08:26 GMT
#472
On November 23 2010 17:24 T0fuuu wrote:
Im prolly gonna get flamed for this. But if I was North Korea watching an island on the border and saw KR/US soldiers rehearsing an invasion then I would be a bit paranoid as well. That's assuming that this incident wasnt a calculated attack with political motives and it was a response to a perceived invasion.

Anyways I am pretty annoyed at the South Korean leadership. I know that conscription/military service is a part of life in that country and that they are a very proud people but they treat their soldiers like shit. 50 dead in a boating accident, getting shot at in a guard post then 4 dead and houses on fire in artillery attack? In any other country, a sunken warship, 50 dead soldiers and an attack on soil would be enough to resume a war. The response of the south koreans just amazes me. Its like a huge cultural wall for me to even try to understand why they won't fight back. Are soldiers lives really that expendable that you can afford a few dead here and there for "peace".


Umm wouldn't the soldiers AND civilian casualties be farrrr worse in an actual war? Your logic makes no sense.
For The Swarm!
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
November 23 2010 08:26 GMT
#473
On November 23 2010 17:25 VorcePA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:24 KonohaFlash wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:21 VorcePA wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:21 KonohaFlash wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:19 Slardarxt wrote:
This thread is front-page worthy right?


I don't understand this post.


TL.net is particularly partial to South Korea and its happenings because that's the heart of e-Sports currently.


I don't understand why something this important should only be on the first page because TeamLiquid is partial to South Korea. Everyone is talking about this not just us gamers.


Yeah but other than GosuGamers there probably wouldn't be another gaming site reporting on this.


Well if there is an off-topic side to the forum. I'm sure they would
toadstool
Profile Joined May 2006
Australia421 Posts
November 23 2010 08:26 GMT
#474
On November 23 2010 17:20 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:10 Risen wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:04 randombum wrote:
On November 23 2010 16:47 okajunior wrote:
On November 23 2010 16:45 Scrapiron wrote:
On November 23 2010 16:41 okajunior wrote:
On November 23 2010 16:40 furymonkey wrote:
On November 23 2010 16:38 okajunior wrote:
1 confirmed casualty. This is not looking good


You meant death, the word casualty includes injuired.

no casualty also implies death I believe.

You are wrong.

um.... I don't want to really get into this right now so now please stfu
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/casualty



No, YOU are wrong, from you own link

"a member of the armed forces lost to service through death, wounds, sickness, capture, or because his or her whereabouts or condition cannot be determined.
b.
casualties, loss in numerical strength through any cause, as death, wounds, sickness, capture, or desertion.
2.
one who is injured or killed in an accident: There were no casualties in the traffic accident.
3.
any person, group, thing, etc., that is harmed or destroyed as a result of some act or event: Their house was a casualty of the fire.
4.
a serious accident, esp. one involving bodily injury or death." (bolded useful parts)

So no, casualty does NOT imply death, it includes death but saying every casualty is a death is wrong so why don't you stfu and stop acting all high and mighty when your own link proves you wrong.

As to the situation, I doubt it will escalate, at least I hope so.


You're an idiot. His post was in support of casualty as an injury or death. He just wanted people to stop arguing about it (hence him posting the link to the definition)

On-topic: Watching this and I'm so damn tired but I don't want to go to sleep. I really hope everything goes alright, my former research partner is in the airport right now waiting for a flight to LA


No he wasn't, anybody with reading sense would see that he thought casualty= death.

In the thread people say first confirmed death! Moments later he comes in saying first confirmed casualty!

Some one replies no, there's plenty of casualties this is a first death.

He replies no casualty means (implies) death.

Someone else tells him, no, casualty can include injuries too.

He replies stfu your dumb here is link showing casualty does not equal death although all my posts imply I think it does.

I tell him he's wrong.

You call me an idiot.

I expect an apology.

If he was supporting that casualty includes both injuries and death, then when someone tells him its both injury and death he would not call that person wrong.



User was warned for this post


Casualty means death and injured, so you're both right geez. Also, to say first casualty is right as well, so no need to correct him.

Hope everyone is okay, I wonder what caused all this...

User was warned for this post
NEWB?!
Sasquatch
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada126 Posts
November 23 2010 08:26 GMT
#475
On November 23 2010 17:21 kOre wrote:
Situation was going to go to the UN but updates say that it won't go up that far.


When's the last time the UN actually did something useful for the Korean peninsula...? The only reason that the Korean War even got approved by the UN was that the Soviet Union was boycotting the Security Council and the "Chinese" seat was still taken up by the Republic of China (aka Taiwan).

Seriously, the UN is completely ineffective when it comes to dealing with Korea because The PRC will always veto any serious military action... Anything that happens will probably have to come through the US/SK w. NATO support, or something.
JESUS CHRIST ITS A LION GET IN THE CAR
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 23 2010 08:26 GMT
#476
On November 23 2010 17:24 T0fuuu wrote:
Im prolly gonna get flamed for this. But if I was North Korea watching an island on the border and saw KR/US soldiers rehearsing an invasion then I would be a bit paranoid as well. That's assuming that this incident wasnt a calculated attack with political motives and it was a response to a perceived invasion.

Anyways I am pretty annoyed at the South Korean leadership. I know that conscription/military service is a part of life in that country and that they are a very proud people but they treat their soldiers like shit. 50 dead in a boating accident, getting shot at in a guard post then 4 dead and houses on fire in artillery attack? In any other country, a sunken warship, 50 dead soldiers and an attack on soil would be enough to resume a war. The response of the south koreans just amazes me. Its like a huge cultural wall for me to even try to understand why they won't fight back. Are soldiers lives really that expendable that you can afford a few dead here and there for "peace".

The exercise in question is annual and happens the same time every year...stupid. also, as has been stated before, they don't attack because Seoul is within artillary range and half the country would die if they did...it's not a cultural thing, it's just smart. A couple dozen lives in exchanged for half of your country's.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
November 23 2010 08:27 GMT
#477
So the people on Kona's stream stopped speaking English, so that means things have calmed down, right?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
November 23 2010 08:27 GMT
#478
news reported:

apparently N.Korea told S.Korea to stop the navy practice exercise at the NLL, but S.Korea went on so N.Korea opened fire
POGGERS
sksyen
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States359 Posts
November 23 2010 08:27 GMT
#479
On November 23 2010 17:07 drhojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:05 polgas wrote:
China won't go to war. The current leaders they have now are actually quite moderate. N. Korea on the other hand is just crazy.

Actually China has been aggressively expanding it's armed forces in recent years and recently hijacked the internet a few months prior in what is thought to be an attempt to intercept/hide data.


The hell are you talking about?
InflowYen.681 || /dance
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 23 2010 08:27 GMT
#480
On November 23 2010 17:24 T0fuuu wrote:
Im prolly gonna get flamed for this. But if I was North Korea watching an island on the border and saw KR/US soldiers rehearsing an invasion then I would be a bit paranoid as well. That's assuming that this incident wasnt a calculated attack with political motives and it was a response to a perceived invasion.

Anyways I am pretty annoyed at the South Korean leadership. I know that conscription/military service is a part of life in that country and that they are a very proud people but they treat their soldiers like shit. 50 dead in a boating accident, getting shot at in a guard post then 4 dead and houses on fire in artillery attack? In any other country, a sunken warship, 50 dead soldiers and an attack on soil would be enough to resume a war. The response of the south koreans just amazes me. Its like a huge cultural wall for me to even try to understand why they won't fight back. Are soldiers lives really that expendable that you can afford a few dead here and there for "peace".

What the fuck are you talking about? Which one has more respect for soldiers' lives, being the bigger country and not going to war or sending tons of infantry to die in firefights and bombings?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
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