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On November 23 2010 17:14 SilverskY wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 17:13 drhojo wrote:On November 23 2010 17:11 KonohaFlash wrote:On November 23 2010 17:10 susySquark wrote: BTW, casualty does NOT mean death. It is a sum of both injuries and deaths. In military terms a casualty is death. Hence why they said 1 casualty 15 injured. casualty means unable to fight/function. If you're injured and sent home you're a casualty of war. lol, the post that immediately follows the warning... morons... it's called I was posting it before the warning and hence i never saw the warning before i posted.
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On November 23 2010 17:14 Lemonwalrus wrote: I think he posted at same time...cut the guy a break.
ya seriously
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On November 23 2010 17:03 Alejandrisha wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 17:00 shutdown_exploded wrote:On November 23 2010 16:59 drhojo wrote:On November 23 2010 16:57 Subversion wrote: i think south korea needs to be the bigger person here and just chill the fuck out
attacking NK is like poking a rabid dog with a stick so you're saying we should let a rabid dog do whatever it wants? even if it bites someone occasionally? no, you put that thing down. right. but countries are not pets. they don't go away when you punish them. see: iraq. See also: Germany CNN just started their coverage but it's pretty much a review of everything I've read on this thread so far I would everyone here like to stop comparing divided korea to divided germany.
Eastern germany had many things north korea never had including membership in a network of states. If you follow german inner news, you might know that the eastern parts are still economically behind even after 20 years (yes, it's been that long) of heavy subsidizing from the west. People actually migrate from the east to the west, further contributing to it's problems. Also: Even though communist propaganda was active in former eastern germany, they also had diplomatic and private communication with the west. They had a pretty good idea of what was going on on the western side.
In short: The gap in divided germany was MUCH smaller than it is now in divided korea. In ALL regards!
That being said: I think no one want's this to escalate. It would really hurt the entire region including japan and china not to mention the civilian casualties to be expected given methods probably used ...
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On November 23 2010 17:14 I_Love_Bacon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 17:10 Fenrax wrote: If China wanted a war, they'd start one. War is the last thing China wants. They seek stability. They're on the rise and a war in the region would only hurt their goals. The buffer zone, while something they might like, is not something they would go to war for anymore. North Korea is a bigger headache to China than they're worth. I'm surprised at the number of people who think China is some ravenous group still that fears the US so much... I think the US fears China more than the other way around. Americans are seen as the awesomestest in China (e.g. all the trendy clothes have nonsensical english on them). I don't think we need to fear China coming into a war against the US, certainly not one that'll devastate their neighbor peninsula.
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On November 23 2010 17:10 Fenrax wrote: If China wanted a war, they'd start one. War is the last thing China wants.
One of the bigger reasons China wants to maintain the status quo is that if the North Korean government collapses, then there's going to be millions of refugees streaming across the border. It'd be like the illegal immigration stuff in North America if instead of Mexico, a fairly prosperous country relatively speaking, the U.S. bordered Ethiopia.
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Wow, this is serious. I'll be following this closely, and praying that everyone stays safe.
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On November 23 2010 17:14 SilverskY wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 17:13 drhojo wrote:On November 23 2010 17:11 KonohaFlash wrote:On November 23 2010 17:10 susySquark wrote: BTW, casualty does NOT mean death. It is a sum of both injuries and deaths. In military terms a casualty is death. Hence why they said 1 casualty 15 injured. casualty means unable to fight/function. If you're injured and sent home you're a casualty of war. lol, the post that immediately follows the warning... morons... In all fairness he was probably typing out his post before he saw that...
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On November 23 2010 17:14 SilverskY wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 17:13 drhojo wrote:On November 23 2010 17:11 KonohaFlash wrote:On November 23 2010 17:10 susySquark wrote: BTW, casualty does NOT mean death. It is a sum of both injuries and deaths. In military terms a casualty is death. Hence why they said 1 casualty 15 injured. casualty means unable to fight/function. If you're injured and sent home you're a casualty of war. lol, the post that immediately follows the warning... morons...
It's obvious they were posting at the same time so he didn't get thee warning... edit: sorry for mentioning this after other people did lol, watching tv at same time on topic: im scared
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On November 23 2010 17:13 Kau wrote: Stop talking about the definition of casualty. Any more of those after this post is getting punished.
Edit: I'll give the post below me the benefit of the doubt that he didn't see this yet because of same time stamp.
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[TRANS] First boat of evacuees have arrived back on peninsula
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On November 23 2010 17:15 jacen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 17:03 Alejandrisha wrote:On November 23 2010 17:00 shutdown_exploded wrote:On November 23 2010 16:59 drhojo wrote:On November 23 2010 16:57 Subversion wrote: i think south korea needs to be the bigger person here and just chill the fuck out
attacking NK is like poking a rabid dog with a stick so you're saying we should let a rabid dog do whatever it wants? even if it bites someone occasionally? no, you put that thing down. right. but countries are not pets. they don't go away when you punish them. see: iraq. See also: Germany CNN just started their coverage but it's pretty much a review of everything I've read on this thread so far I would everyone here like to stop comparing divided korea to divided germany. Eastern germany had many things north korea never had including membership in a network of states. If you follow german inner news, you might know that the eastern parts are still economically behind even after 20 years (yes, it's been that long) of heavy subsidizing from the west. People actually migrate from the east to the west, further contributing to it's problems. Also: Even though communist propaganda was active in former eastern germany, they also had diplomatic and private communication with the west. They had a pretty good idea of what was going on on the western side. In short: The gap in divided germany was MUCH smaller than it is now in divided korea. In ALL regards! That being said: I think no one want's this to escalate. It would really hurt the entire region including japan and china not to mention the civilian casualties to be expected given methods probably used ...
I don't think he was referring to divided Germany, but was referring to Post WWI Germany leading into WWII but I may be wrong.
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On November 23 2010 17:15 jacen wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 17:03 Alejandrisha wrote:On November 23 2010 17:00 shutdown_exploded wrote:On November 23 2010 16:59 drhojo wrote:On November 23 2010 16:57 Subversion wrote: i think south korea needs to be the bigger person here and just chill the fuck out
attacking NK is like poking a rabid dog with a stick so you're saying we should let a rabid dog do whatever it wants? even if it bites someone occasionally? no, you put that thing down. right. but countries are not pets. they don't go away when you punish them. see: iraq. See also: Germany CNN just started their coverage but it's pretty much a review of everything I've read on this thread so far I would everyone here like to stop comparing divided korea to divided germany. Eastern germany had many things north korea never had including membership in a network of states. If you follow german inner news, you might know that the eastern parts are still economically behind even after 20 years (yes, it's been that long) of heavy subsidizing from the west. People actually migrate from the east to the west, further contributing to it's problems. Also: Even though communist propaganda was active in former eastern germany, they also had diplomatic and private communication with the west. They had a pretty good idea of what was going on on the western side. In short: The gap in divided germany was MUCH smaller than it is now in divided korea. In ALL regards! That being said: I think no one want's this to escalate. It would really hurt the entire region including japan and china not to mention the civilian casualties to be expected given methods probably used ... The border between the two is also a lot more strict in Korea..you had people border hopping in Germany but there's no way to get across the DMZ in Korea.
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[Eye Witness] All evacuees should be on boats already. Electricity is out. No mobile signal
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On November 23 2010 17:15 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 17:14 I_Love_Bacon wrote:On November 23 2010 17:10 Fenrax wrote: If China wanted a war, they'd start one. War is the last thing China wants. They seek stability. They're on the rise and a war in the region would only hurt their goals. The buffer zone, while something they might like, is not something they would go to war for anymore. North Korea is a bigger headache to China than they're worth. I'm surprised at the number of people who think China is some ravenous group still that fears the US so much... I think the US fears China more than the other way around. Americans are seen as the awesomestest in China (e.g. all the trendy clothes have nonsensical english on them). I don't think we need to fear China coming into a war against the US, certainly not one that'll devastate their neighbor peninsula.
This is true. I've lived in China for most my life... it's definitely not the kind of 'bad' place western news media make it out to be.
Though, Chinese - Korean and Chinese - Japanese relations aren't that great. (Everyone dislikes everyone it seems).
I hope this situation is resolved peacefully. Also, I'm surprised people can make jokes about such events.
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This thread is front-page worthy right?
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On November 23 2010 17:11 drhojo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 23 2010 17:10 Fenrax wrote: If China wanted a war, they'd start one. War is the last thing China wants. they want an excuse so that they can get public support for it.
Sub 100 poster and you're already trying to flame bait and say nonsense propaganda? Seriously just stop talking. This isn't a thread for infantile bullshit geopolitics 101.
User was temp banned for this post.
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i know this is terrible news, but it's still exciting and i hope things work out well. best wishes to SK and any koreans here.
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Why are we so quickly saying the W word? SK doesn't want it, China defintiely doesn't want it, and even for NK it'd be very bad timing to start one now.
I believe even if NK does something more aggressive, SK won't engage into a war.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but pretty much nothing has happened since the artillery attack stopped. I doubt there will be a 2nd NK attack and chances are SK will not retaliate. So yeah, I think we can sleep easy tonight.
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