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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 23 2010 08:10 GMT
#401
On November 23 2010 17:04 randombum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 16:47 okajunior wrote:
On November 23 2010 16:45 Scrapiron wrote:
On November 23 2010 16:41 okajunior wrote:
On November 23 2010 16:40 furymonkey wrote:
On November 23 2010 16:38 okajunior wrote:
1 confirmed casualty. This is not looking good


You meant death, the word casualty includes injuired.

no casualty also implies death I believe.

You are wrong.

um.... I don't want to really get into this right now so now please stfu
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/casualty



No, YOU are wrong, from you own link

"a member of the armed forces lost to service through death, wounds, sickness, capture, or because his or her whereabouts or condition cannot be determined.
b.
casualties, loss in numerical strength through any cause, as death, wounds, sickness, capture, or desertion.
2.
one who is injured or killed in an accident: There were no casualties in the traffic accident.
3.
any person, group, thing, etc., that is harmed or destroyed as a result of some act or event: Their house was a casualty of the fire.
4.
a serious accident, esp. one involving bodily injury or death." (bolded useful parts)

So no, casualty does NOT imply death, it includes death but saying every casualty is a death is wrong so why don't you stfu and stop acting all high and mighty when your own link proves you wrong.

As to the situation, I doubt it will escalate, at least I hope so.


You're an idiot. His post was in support of casualty as an injury or death. He just wanted people to stop arguing about it (hence him posting the link to the definition)

On-topic: Watching this and I'm so damn tired but I don't want to go to sleep. I really hope everything goes alright, my former research partner is in the airport right now waiting for a flight to LA
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
November 23 2010 08:10 GMT
#402
If China wanted a war, they'd start one. War is the last thing China wants.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:11:44
November 23 2010 08:11 GMT
#403
China said it would maintain status quo. seems like they don't want to incur the wrath of either NK or SK by supporting either side

EDIT: i meant the world
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
November 23 2010 08:11 GMT
#404
On November 23 2010 17:10 susySquark wrote:
BTW, casualty does NOT mean death. It is a sum of both injuries and deaths.


Can we just drop this useless fucking bickering? It's just about as bad as the SC jokes, if you want to argue with someone about something relatively inane use the PM button. Thank you.
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
November 23 2010 08:11 GMT
#405
On November 23 2010 17:10 VorcePA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:09 supernovamaniac wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:08 Sarsaparilla wrote:
BBC reporting shelling has currently stopped.

http://www.livestation.com/channels/9-bbc-world-service-english

This was posted long ago.


I missed it. I saw the 200 shells, and then heard more shells firing over the stream. This is the first I'm hearing about it stopping.

I edited my post: NYT was faster at updating apparently
ppp
KonohaFlash
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1590 Posts
November 23 2010 08:11 GMT
#406
On November 23 2010 17:10 susySquark wrote:
BTW, casualty does NOT mean death. It is a sum of both injuries and deaths.


In military terms a casualty is death. Hence why they said 1 casualty 15 injured.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
November 23 2010 08:11 GMT
#407
another stream http://kpopflash.net/stream/
Commentator
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:16:10
November 23 2010 08:11 GMT
#408
On November 23 2010 17:03 Mohdoo wrote:
Can someone who is familiar with this situation give some input on WHY they think North Korea did this? What made them think this is a good idea? What did they gain?


They want to divert their own population's attention from the fact that they are starving because of their leader's corruption and incompetence.
drhojo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States53 Posts
November 23 2010 08:11 GMT
#409
On November 23 2010 17:10 Fenrax wrote:
If China wanted a war, they'd start one. War is the last thing China wants.

they want an excuse so that they can get public support for it.
You take nothing to the grave; live your life being brave.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
November 23 2010 08:12 GMT
#410
http://tv.zeroboy.net/konadora/
Kona switch between many channels to bring you the full picture of this.
I recommend people watch his stream if you concerned with this matter
Terran
YoonHo
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada1043 Posts
November 23 2010 08:12 GMT
#411
On November 23 2010 17:12 Caphe wrote:
http://tv.zeroboy.net/konadora/
Kona switch between many channels to bring you the full picture of this.
I recommend people watch his stream if you concerned with this matter


Ya, I second this. Thanks kona~
IUFam Golf Wang~ NrGsteve
MadVillain
Profile Joined June 2010
United States402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:14:18
November 23 2010 08:13 GMT
#412
--Never mind it was just temporary coverage---

Edit: Hope everyone is ok, this is very interesting too watch I must admit, but also very sad and hopefully nothing too bad comes from it.
For The Swarm!
veraliar
Profile Joined November 2010
227 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:13:52
November 23 2010 08:13 GMT
#413
This was probably mentioned but given the history of how wars typically start, it is very rarely because of common sense. There is a lot of back and forth in this thread that is trying to make sense of this event which is understandable but keep in mind that should things escalate (which I hope they won't), it probably won't be for black and white reasons, albeit the latter will be used after the fact to justify the actions.

It's been a few years since I read him but I think it was Machiavelli who said that Princes go to war over the same foolish stuff that farmers fight.
Kau *
Profile Joined March 2007
Canada3500 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:14:32
November 23 2010 08:13 GMT
#414
Stop talking about the definition of casualty. Any more of those after this post is getting punished.

Edit: I'll give the post below me the benefit of the doubt that he didn't see this yet because of same time stamp.
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drhojo
Profile Joined September 2010
United States53 Posts
November 23 2010 08:13 GMT
#415
On November 23 2010 17:11 KonohaFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:10 susySquark wrote:
BTW, casualty does NOT mean death. It is a sum of both injuries and deaths.


In military terms a casualty is death. Hence why they said 1 casualty 15 injured.

casualty means unable to fight/function. If you're injured and sent home you're a casualty of war.
You take nothing to the grave; live your life being brave.
theinvisiblePLER
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States110 Posts
November 23 2010 08:13 GMT
#416
On November 23 2010 17:13 Kau wrote:
Stop talking about the definition of casualty. Any more of those after this post is getting punished.


On November 23 2010 17:13 drhojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:11 KonohaFlash wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:10 susySquark wrote:
BTW, casualty does NOT mean death. It is a sum of both injuries and deaths.


In military terms a casualty is death. Hence why they said 1 casualty 15 injured.

casualty means unable to fight/function. If you're injured and sent home you're a casualty of war.

lol
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
November 23 2010 08:14 GMT
#417
On November 23 2010 17:10 Fenrax wrote:
If China wanted a war, they'd start one. War is the last thing China wants.


They seek stability. They're on the rise and a war in the region would only hurt their goals. The buffer zone, while something they might like, is not something they would go to war for anymore. North Korea is a bigger headache to China than they're worth. I'm surprised at the number of people who think China is some ravenous group still that fears the US so much...
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
SilverskY
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)3086 Posts
November 23 2010 08:14 GMT
#418
On November 23 2010 17:13 drhojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 17:11 KonohaFlash wrote:
On November 23 2010 17:10 susySquark wrote:
BTW, casualty does NOT mean death. It is a sum of both injuries and deaths.


In military terms a casualty is death. Hence why they said 1 casualty 15 injured.

casualty means unable to fight/function. If you're injured and sent home you're a casualty of war.

lol, the post that immediately follows the warning... morons...
Graphics
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66359 Posts
November 23 2010 08:14 GMT
#419
On November 23 2010 17:11 GTR wrote:
another stream http://kpopflash.net/stream/

thanks
POGGERS
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-23 08:15:18
November 23 2010 08:14 GMT
#420
I think he posted at same time...cut the guy a break.

Edit: Break given...the kau is a wise man.
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