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Wait if sennheiser etc is midlevel, what is high level?
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i have hd650's and an ASUS xonar essence stx soundcard. thinking about upgrading to a nuforce icon hdp
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On November 14 2010 13:46 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Wait if sennheiser etc is midlevel, what is high level?
sennheiser has an entire line of headphones that range from low to high level. just getting sennheiser doesn't mean you're getting a high quality headphone. even a lot of their low-end ones don't have great value because their price is beat by some competitors.
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On November 14 2010 12:18 ibreakurface wrote:
Not to troll or anything, but it sounds to me like you are all finding ways to just spend money. After spending 100-150$ headphones I think that's all the quality you need, anything above that is just not cost efficient.
Sure if you get a pair that's worth 300$ and compare it to a 150$ set you'll notice a difference, but both have great quality, and the only way you can really tell is because you are comparing them one after the other.
IMO.
To each his own. Everybody has different standards and wants right?
If I like BW-> it doesn't mean I need a $100 gaming mouse and a $100 mechanical keyboard and a $30 mousepad ... but you know if I really like BW I might as well purchase stuff that I like and will use for my pleasure. Doesn't make me play any better on iccup. Just personal satisfaction IMHO.
Your 2nd paragraph applies to pretty much applies everything in life - or more specifically consumer goods.
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I use sennheiser hd-25s
![[image loading]](http://images.thomann.de/pics/prod/117045.jpg)
Pretty well one of the best headphones out there.
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On November 14 2010 12:47 ieatkids5 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 12:33 vica wrote:On November 14 2010 12:18 ibreakurface wrote:
Not to troll or anything, but it sounds to me like you are all finding ways to just spend money. After spending 100-150$ headphones I think that's all the quality you need, anything above that is just not cost efficient.
Sure if you get a pair that's worth 300$ and compare it to a 150$ set you'll notice a difference, but both have great quality, and the only way you can really tell is because you are comparing them one after the other.
IMO. Why settle for a $60 game when some $20 game could last the same time? Why buy a $1000 Intel CPU when a $250 AMD CPU can do the same speed? Why buy $100 shoes, when $20 shoes could do the same? It is preference. Or maybe the thing that costs more is actually worth it, depending on your needs and wants. Everything has diminishing returns as price goes up. And almost everything is preference. Was it really necessary asking that question? imo, it wasn't asked in the right way. of course there will be small but noticeable differences between high end top tier headphones and mid class ones. but i really really think that a lot of people who go for a $300 dollar one wouldn't be able to tell the difference between it and a much cheaper one. if the more expensive one makes them happier than the cheaper one, then good for them, the free market has succeeded. but if they do realize that they can't hear the difference, that the cheaper one sounds the same, that having a higher price tag doesn't make the product better in many cases, then maybe they can save themselves a couple bucks. definitely not saying that people spending a ton on the best tube amps, DACs, cables, and headphones aren't getting their money's worth. after all, that person is the one who determines how much he or she values the goods they're spending it on. and there definitely are people to whom having such a high end setup will make a difference. so yes, it's preference. but there's also the fact that some people think they are getting the better product when they would have been just as well off getting something cheaper. and then there's the debate of whether this is good or not.
That's exactly what I'm saying. For example when I bought a fuzz box for my guitar I looked at the different ones and some of the cheaper ones sounded great, pretty much as good as the more expensive ones. Then I played them side to side and noticed the more expensive one sounded better. If I didn't notice it before though, is it worth the extra money? I won't be missing something my ears aren't sensitive enough to hear unless compared side by side.
It's just my two cents. On another note, I need to buy a decent set of headphones. Durability, comfort, and all around good/balanced sound. Suggestions are appreciated 
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On November 14 2010 13:46 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Wait if sennheiser etc is midlevel, what is high level?
I don't know where you got that quote from but every brand/manufacturer has different tier items right, but I wouldn't consider Sennheiser mid level at all. Price doesn't always dictate what is "high level" and "low level" at least that's what I believe.
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On November 14 2010 13:43 T.O.P. wrote:Which one would you get? + Show Spoiler +Audio-Technica ATH-M50 ![[image loading]](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41N0%2Brm0aXL.jpg) Audio Technica ATH-AD700 ![[image loading]](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41AO8oIX5wL.jpg) Audio Technica ATH-A700 ![[image loading]](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71C-5YL22TL._AA1500_.jpg)
Do you want closed cans or open cans?
If you want closed go for the A700 or the M50
Open go for AD700
I'm not too sure on the difference between the M50 and the A(D)700 series but I heard great things about both
If you don't need isolation or don't mind sound leaking from open cans, go for the AD700
They are "generally" better
Although personal preference comes into play
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On November 14 2010 13:33 ieatkids5 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 13:15 Dont Panic wrote:On November 14 2010 13:09 ieatkids5 wrote:On November 14 2010 12:56 Dont Panic wrote:
First off i want to thank all you guys who have helped me. I am reading ont he internet and learning alot.
Lets say i have 80ish dollars and I want the best sound quality out of my computer. What would be the best way to achieve that? Should i just settle with some 20 dollar closed headphones. Would earphones do the same job? Should i get like 50 dollar ones with a 30 dollar soundcard? Right now im using these 3 dollar bootleg apple ipod earbuds but they are uncomfortable and the sound is awful. Thank you so much i love the TL community! the best way for you to boost sound quality is to just get a better pair of headphones or IEMs (in-ear-monitors). i don't recommend suddenly going from stock ipod earbuds to $80 worth of equipment. you need some time to try out some lower-end IEMs or headphones, establish what style and fit you like, establish what sound signature you like (lots of bass? warm sounds for relaxing classical? punchy, tight bass for electronic? clear, crisp highs? strong, forward mids?). if not, there's a big chance you'll spend a lot on something you don't enjoy too much. money that could've been spent on something you'll really like. plus, the sound quality from a good $20-$40 IEM or headphone is getting better and better; an $80 one will only a tiny difference to a person just getting into the headphone scene. there are some really really impressive cheap headphones/IEMs out there right now, and it's only getting more competitive. so let me know what kind of sound you like, whether you want a pair of IEMs or headphones, what kind of music you usually listen to, and i can recommend you some Dang thanks man. Unfortunately i have to do even more researching to answer that question lol. Yeah i really should take it slow because I know I just feel like spending money right now. Would these same headphones/IEMs work good with my ipod? Oh yeah i think this link should be added to the OP http://www.head-fi.org/wiki/a-hopefully-helpful-headphone-buying-guide-for-newbies-by-boomanait helped me tons yeah usually headphones and IEMs in the lower price range sound good on an mp3 player or computer. it's just certain mid or high end ones that need amping, but you don't wanna get into that stuff. i guess you're looking for portability too, since you wanna use them with your ipod. in that case, you'll be looking for either an IEM or portable headphones. just to throw a few out there that you might be interested: IEMs MEElectronics M9 - huge value. i think they're on sale for this weekend. i would recommend these if you're getting an IEM. SoundMagic PL21 - dark/bassy sound, treble not as good as M9 Sennheiser CX250 - good value if they're around $17. also kinda bassy. MEElec M6 - I'll throw these in here since they're also on sale (yay meelec!). same drivers as M9 but housing is a bit difference. i actually haven't heard these, a but a lot of people like these better than the M9. portable headphones Koss PortaPros - very easy to recommend. great value if they're around $28. they're just nice and warm to listen to. Coby CV-185 - for their price ($10) they're awesome. good if you're looking for all-around clarity, but the bass doesn't have a lot of weight. Sennheiser PX100 - don't own these, but these are as frequently recommended as the portapros for their smooth sound, good bass, and good value (maybe they're around $30 now?) hope this helps!
Thanks a lot for your recommendations! Where is a good place to shop because I googled some of those phones and i can't find them for quite those prices.
After thinking about it more I am willing to sacrifice portability for comfort/sound quality. Do the IEMs/portable headphones have comparable sound to the standard ones? It seems like IEMs never last long so I think i will try to avoid those. I will be wearing these a ton like 5 hours a day because i have to be at the computer throughout the day. As for genre of music I can't say one because whether I want to or not my girlfriend will be using them and we both listen to very different kinds of music.
I guess if i could sum it up I am looking for comfortable ~30$ headphones that i will be using in a home environment. Beggars can't be choosers though lol so i'll be happy as long as they are an upgrade from the horrible apple earbuds!
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On November 14 2010 13:52 ibreakurface wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 12:47 ieatkids5 wrote:On November 14 2010 12:33 vica wrote:On November 14 2010 12:18 ibreakurface wrote:
Not to troll or anything, but it sounds to me like you are all finding ways to just spend money. After spending 100-150$ headphones I think that's all the quality you need, anything above that is just not cost efficient.
Sure if you get a pair that's worth 300$ and compare it to a 150$ set you'll notice a difference, but both have great quality, and the only way you can really tell is because you are comparing them one after the other.
IMO. Why settle for a $60 game when some $20 game could last the same time? Why buy a $1000 Intel CPU when a $250 AMD CPU can do the same speed? Why buy $100 shoes, when $20 shoes could do the same? It is preference. Or maybe the thing that costs more is actually worth it, depending on your needs and wants. Everything has diminishing returns as price goes up. And almost everything is preference. Was it really necessary asking that question? imo, it wasn't asked in the right way. of course there will be small but noticeable differences between high end top tier headphones and mid class ones. but i really really think that a lot of people who go for a $300 dollar one wouldn't be able to tell the difference between it and a much cheaper one. if the more expensive one makes them happier than the cheaper one, then good for them, the free market has succeeded. but if they do realize that they can't hear the difference, that the cheaper one sounds the same, that having a higher price tag doesn't make the product better in many cases, then maybe they can save themselves a couple bucks. definitely not saying that people spending a ton on the best tube amps, DACs, cables, and headphones aren't getting their money's worth. after all, that person is the one who determines how much he or she values the goods they're spending it on. and there definitely are people to whom having such a high end setup will make a difference. so yes, it's preference. but there's also the fact that some people think they are getting the better product when they would have been just as well off getting something cheaper. and then there's the debate of whether this is good or not. That's exactly what I'm saying. For example when I bought a fuzz box for my guitar I looked at the different ones and some of the cheaper ones sounded great, pretty much as good as the more expensive ones. Then I played them side to side and noticed the more expensive one sounded better. If I didn't notice it before though, is it worth the extra money? I won't be missing something my ears aren't sensitive enough to hear unless compared side by side. It's just my two cents. On another note, I need to buy a decent set of headphones. Durability, comfort, and all around good/balanced sound. Suggestions are appreciated
yeah i understand where you're coming from.
for headphones - what's the price range? and what headphones have you previously listened to? i know it's kinda ... sounds elitist to ask this, but i truly think it makes a difference in what you should buy. i explained why in a previous post in this the last page.
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Do earbuds count?
I just picked up a pair of Shure SE535s :O.
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On November 14 2010 14:03 ieatkids5 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 13:52 ibreakurface wrote:On November 14 2010 12:47 ieatkids5 wrote:On November 14 2010 12:33 vica wrote:On November 14 2010 12:18 ibreakurface wrote:
Not to troll or anything, but it sounds to me like you are all finding ways to just spend money. After spending 100-150$ headphones I think that's all the quality you need, anything above that is just not cost efficient.
Sure if you get a pair that's worth 300$ and compare it to a 150$ set you'll notice a difference, but both have great quality, and the only way you can really tell is because you are comparing them one after the other.
IMO. Why settle for a $60 game when some $20 game could last the same time? Why buy a $1000 Intel CPU when a $250 AMD CPU can do the same speed? Why buy $100 shoes, when $20 shoes could do the same? It is preference. Or maybe the thing that costs more is actually worth it, depending on your needs and wants. Everything has diminishing returns as price goes up. And almost everything is preference. Was it really necessary asking that question? imo, it wasn't asked in the right way. of course there will be small but noticeable differences between high end top tier headphones and mid class ones. but i really really think that a lot of people who go for a $300 dollar one wouldn't be able to tell the difference between it and a much cheaper one. if the more expensive one makes them happier than the cheaper one, then good for them, the free market has succeeded. but if they do realize that they can't hear the difference, that the cheaper one sounds the same, that having a higher price tag doesn't make the product better in many cases, then maybe they can save themselves a couple bucks. definitely not saying that people spending a ton on the best tube amps, DACs, cables, and headphones aren't getting their money's worth. after all, that person is the one who determines how much he or she values the goods they're spending it on. and there definitely are people to whom having such a high end setup will make a difference. so yes, it's preference. but there's also the fact that some people think they are getting the better product when they would have been just as well off getting something cheaper. and then there's the debate of whether this is good or not. That's exactly what I'm saying. For example when I bought a fuzz box for my guitar I looked at the different ones and some of the cheaper ones sounded great, pretty much as good as the more expensive ones. Then I played them side to side and noticed the more expensive one sounded better. If I didn't notice it before though, is it worth the extra money? I won't be missing something my ears aren't sensitive enough to hear unless compared side by side. It's just my two cents. On another note, I need to buy a decent set of headphones. Durability, comfort, and all around good/balanced sound. Suggestions are appreciated yeah i understand where you're coming from. for headphones - what's the price range? and what headphones have you previously listened to? i know it's kinda ... sounds elitist to ask this, but i truly think it makes a difference in what you should buy. i explained why in a previous post in this the last page. I had a nice bose head set but it was my parents so I didn't get to keep it. It was an older model of their current Quietcomfort Acoustic noise headsets.
Price range somewhere in the middle, probably around 150$.
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On November 14 2010 13:54 ThePurist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 13:46 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Wait if sennheiser etc is midlevel, what is high level? I don't know where you got that quote from but every brand/manufacturer has different tier items right, but I wouldn't consider Sennheiser mid level at all. Price doesn't always dictate what is "high level" and "low level" at least that's what I believe.
-facepalm-
Sennheiser has more than one pair of headphones, you do know that. This is pretty general.
Entry level would be considered HD201s, to HD448s.
Mid level would be considered HD595s, to HD650s.
High level is HD800. Some argue the HD650, as well as some discontinued models.
Price doesn't, quality does. And Sennheiser usually makes quality at decent prices.
If we're talking about general brands, most are low level, then you have mid level Sennheisers, Grados, Beyerdynamics, Audio-Technicas, and high level would be Stax.
On another note, Bose is not good. It's not terrible, but it's ridiculously overpriced, like the Beats or Skullcandies. Noise cancelling also leads to pretty bad sound quality, but it's a fair trade-off if you need it.
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On November 14 2010 14:02 Dont Panic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 13:33 ieatkids5 wrote:On November 14 2010 13:15 Dont Panic wrote:On November 14 2010 13:09 ieatkids5 wrote:On November 14 2010 12:56 Dont Panic wrote:
First off i want to thank all you guys who have helped me. I am reading ont he internet and learning alot.
Lets say i have 80ish dollars and I want the best sound quality out of my computer. What would be the best way to achieve that? Should i just settle with some 20 dollar closed headphones. Would earphones do the same job? Should i get like 50 dollar ones with a 30 dollar soundcard? Right now im using these 3 dollar bootleg apple ipod earbuds but they are uncomfortable and the sound is awful. Thank you so much i love the TL community! the best way for you to boost sound quality is to just get a better pair of headphones or IEMs (in-ear-monitors). i don't recommend suddenly going from stock ipod earbuds to $80 worth of equipment. you need some time to try out some lower-end IEMs or headphones, establish what style and fit you like, establish what sound signature you like (lots of bass? warm sounds for relaxing classical? punchy, tight bass for electronic? clear, crisp highs? strong, forward mids?). if not, there's a big chance you'll spend a lot on something you don't enjoy too much. money that could've been spent on something you'll really like. plus, the sound quality from a good $20-$40 IEM or headphone is getting better and better; an $80 one will only a tiny difference to a person just getting into the headphone scene. there are some really really impressive cheap headphones/IEMs out there right now, and it's only getting more competitive. so let me know what kind of sound you like, whether you want a pair of IEMs or headphones, what kind of music you usually listen to, and i can recommend you some Dang thanks man. Unfortunately i have to do even more researching to answer that question lol. Yeah i really should take it slow because I know I just feel like spending money right now. Would these same headphones/IEMs work good with my ipod? Oh yeah i think this link should be added to the OP http://www.head-fi.org/wiki/a-hopefully-helpful-headphone-buying-guide-for-newbies-by-boomanait helped me tons yeah usually headphones and IEMs in the lower price range sound good on an mp3 player or computer. it's just certain mid or high end ones that need amping, but you don't wanna get into that stuff. i guess you're looking for portability too, since you wanna use them with your ipod. in that case, you'll be looking for either an IEM or portable headphones. just to throw a few out there that you might be interested: IEMs MEElectronics M9 - huge value. i think they're on sale for this weekend. i would recommend these if you're getting an IEM. SoundMagic PL21 - dark/bassy sound, treble not as good as M9 Sennheiser CX250 - good value if they're around $17. also kinda bassy. MEElec M6 - I'll throw these in here since they're also on sale (yay meelec!). same drivers as M9 but housing is a bit difference. i actually haven't heard these, a but a lot of people like these better than the M9. portable headphones Koss PortaPros - very easy to recommend. great value if they're around $28. they're just nice and warm to listen to. Coby CV-185 - for their price ($10) they're awesome. good if you're looking for all-around clarity, but the bass doesn't have a lot of weight. Sennheiser PX100 - don't own these, but these are as frequently recommended as the portapros for their smooth sound, good bass, and good value (maybe they're around $30 now?) hope this helps! Thanks a lot for your recommendations! Where is a good place to shop because I googled some of those phones and i can't find them for quite those prices. After thinking about it more I am willing to sacrifice portability for comfort/sound quality. Do the IEMs/portable headphones have comparable sound to the standard ones? It seems like IEMs never last long so I think i will try to avoid those. I will be wearing these a ton like 5 hours a day because i have to be at the computer throughout the day. As for genre of music I can't say one because whether I want to or not my girlfriend will be using them and we both listen to very different kinds of music. I guess if i could sum it up I am looking for comfortable ~30$ headphones that i will be using in a home environment. Beggars can't be choosers though lol so i'll be happy as long as they are an upgrade from the horrible apple earbuds!
I usually just use amazon, or the company's site itself (again, you can tell i like meelec). some people will buy on ebay, some also use mp4nation. i've bought something off newegg before when it happened to be cheaper than on amazon.
to be honest, i dont have too much experience with full sized headphones, although i could recommend some that other people have recommended, especially those that have a really good reputation and value. unfortunately, the grado SR-60 and audio-technica M50 aren't in your price range. however, i don't think you'll be sacrificing sound quality or comfort by getting a portable pair. one of the things about the portapro is that it's so light, and the cups are on this swivel thing so that it conforms to your ears, that you don't really feel it being worn. also, about sound quality, if you're getting a $100 pair of portable headphones or IEMs (compare to the fullsize sr-60 and m50), you'll be getting comparable sound quality anyways.
well the IEMs i recommended are pretty durable, in my experience, although people have said that even great sounding ones (re0) aren't built as well... it really depends on which ones you're getting. but IEMs aren't for everyone - some people don't like sticking something deep into their ears, some people like hearing sound come from outside their head rather than inside (even IEMs with good depth, separation, and wide soundstages can't sound like headphones in terms of where the music is coming from). i believe IEMs tend to have more clarity and intimacy, as well as isolation and portability, compared to portable headphones, but headphones have their own set of pros.
perhaps you don't wanna risk spending money on an IEM, but if you get a chance, do give them a try. it might be uncomfortable at first, but you never know, maybe you'll discover that you do like them
i would say go buy the portapros or senn px100. they are very good for starting out (portapros are so good im still using them), and have great value. just because i like the portapros and don't have the px100, i'll say go for the portapros.
also, have you thought about getting your gf her own pair? it would seem better since two people can't use the same pair at the same time.
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On November 14 2010 14:14 ibreakurface wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 14:03 ieatkids5 wrote:On November 14 2010 13:52 ibreakurface wrote:On November 14 2010 12:47 ieatkids5 wrote:On November 14 2010 12:33 vica wrote:On November 14 2010 12:18 ibreakurface wrote:
Not to troll or anything, but it sounds to me like you are all finding ways to just spend money. After spending 100-150$ headphones I think that's all the quality you need, anything above that is just not cost efficient.
Sure if you get a pair that's worth 300$ and compare it to a 150$ set you'll notice a difference, but both have great quality, and the only way you can really tell is because you are comparing them one after the other.
IMO. Why settle for a $60 game when some $20 game could last the same time? Why buy a $1000 Intel CPU when a $250 AMD CPU can do the same speed? Why buy $100 shoes, when $20 shoes could do the same? It is preference. Or maybe the thing that costs more is actually worth it, depending on your needs and wants. Everything has diminishing returns as price goes up. And almost everything is preference. Was it really necessary asking that question? imo, it wasn't asked in the right way. of course there will be small but noticeable differences between high end top tier headphones and mid class ones. but i really really think that a lot of people who go for a $300 dollar one wouldn't be able to tell the difference between it and a much cheaper one. if the more expensive one makes them happier than the cheaper one, then good for them, the free market has succeeded. but if they do realize that they can't hear the difference, that the cheaper one sounds the same, that having a higher price tag doesn't make the product better in many cases, then maybe they can save themselves a couple bucks. definitely not saying that people spending a ton on the best tube amps, DACs, cables, and headphones aren't getting their money's worth. after all, that person is the one who determines how much he or she values the goods they're spending it on. and there definitely are people to whom having such a high end setup will make a difference. so yes, it's preference. but there's also the fact that some people think they are getting the better product when they would have been just as well off getting something cheaper. and then there's the debate of whether this is good or not. That's exactly what I'm saying. For example when I bought a fuzz box for my guitar I looked at the different ones and some of the cheaper ones sounded great, pretty much as good as the more expensive ones. Then I played them side to side and noticed the more expensive one sounded better. If I didn't notice it before though, is it worth the extra money? I won't be missing something my ears aren't sensitive enough to hear unless compared side by side. It's just my two cents. On another note, I need to buy a decent set of headphones. Durability, comfort, and all around good/balanced sound. Suggestions are appreciated yeah i understand where you're coming from. for headphones - what's the price range? and what headphones have you previously listened to? i know it's kinda ... sounds elitist to ask this, but i truly think it makes a difference in what you should buy. i explained why in a previous post in this the last page. I had a nice bose head set but it was my parents so I didn't get to keep it. It was an older model of their current Quietcomfort Acoustic noise headsets. Price range somewhere in the middle, probably around 150$.
i'd say look up some reviews of the audio-technica M50 and see if you like them
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On November 14 2010 13:56 JSH wrote:Do you want closed cans or open cans? If you want closed go for the A700 or the M50 Open go for AD700 I'm not too sure on the difference between the M50 and the A(D)700 series but I heard great things about both If you don't need isolation or don't mind sound leaking from open cans, go for the AD700 They are "generally" better Although personal preference comes into play
I never had open headphones so I'm quite intrigued by it.
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On November 14 2010 14:26 vica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 13:54 ThePurist wrote:On November 14 2010 13:46 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Wait if sennheiser etc is midlevel, what is high level? I don't know where you got that quote from but every brand/manufacturer has different tier items right, but I wouldn't consider Sennheiser mid level at all. Price doesn't always dictate what is "high level" and "low level" at least that's what I believe. -facepalm- Sennheiser has more than one pair of headphones, you do know that. This is pretty general. Entry level would be considered HD201s, to HD448s. Mid level would be considered HD595s, to HD650s. High level is HD800. Some argue the HD650, as well as some discontinued models. Price doesn't, quality does. And Sennheiser usually makes quality at decent prices.
You facepalm and reiterate my previous statements in detail. Maybe you read it wrong.
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He meant to quote CM I think.
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On November 14 2010 12:37 0mgVitaminE wrote:Show nested quote +On November 13 2010 09:08 SubtleArt wrote:
I have the AKG K240 Mkii's, unamped. They're kinda quiet tho even at full volume on my ipod (relatively speaking), so I might get an amp for them sometime. Otherwise I'm pretty happy with the quality I'm probably gonna get some k240's soon (the original, not the mkii's) and I'm really looking forward to it.
You should be, they're very nice headphones. I'd consider getting an amp for them though, because otherwise they're pretty quiet (relatively speaking). I listen to them at about 5/6 volume on my ipod and I dont think I listen to music too loudly by any means.
Also good call on getting the orignial. The drivers for the original are slightly better than for the mark 2s.
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On November 14 2010 14:39 ieatkids5 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2010 14:14 ibreakurface wrote:On November 14 2010 14:03 ieatkids5 wrote:On November 14 2010 13:52 ibreakurface wrote:On November 14 2010 12:47 ieatkids5 wrote:On November 14 2010 12:33 vica wrote:On November 14 2010 12:18 ibreakurface wrote:
Not to troll or anything, but it sounds to me like you are all finding ways to just spend money. After spending 100-150$ headphones I think that's all the quality you need, anything above that is just not cost efficient.
Sure if you get a pair that's worth 300$ and compare it to a 150$ set you'll notice a difference, but both have great quality, and the only way you can really tell is because you are comparing them one after the other.
IMO. Why settle for a $60 game when some $20 game could last the same time? Why buy a $1000 Intel CPU when a $250 AMD CPU can do the same speed? Why buy $100 shoes, when $20 shoes could do the same? It is preference. Or maybe the thing that costs more is actually worth it, depending on your needs and wants. Everything has diminishing returns as price goes up. And almost everything is preference. Was it really necessary asking that question? imo, it wasn't asked in the right way. of course there will be small but noticeable differences between high end top tier headphones and mid class ones. but i really really think that a lot of people who go for a $300 dollar one wouldn't be able to tell the difference between it and a much cheaper one. if the more expensive one makes them happier than the cheaper one, then good for them, the free market has succeeded. but if they do realize that they can't hear the difference, that the cheaper one sounds the same, that having a higher price tag doesn't make the product better in many cases, then maybe they can save themselves a couple bucks. definitely not saying that people spending a ton on the best tube amps, DACs, cables, and headphones aren't getting their money's worth. after all, that person is the one who determines how much he or she values the goods they're spending it on. and there definitely are people to whom having such a high end setup will make a difference. so yes, it's preference. but there's also the fact that some people think they are getting the better product when they would have been just as well off getting something cheaper. and then there's the debate of whether this is good or not. That's exactly what I'm saying. For example when I bought a fuzz box for my guitar I looked at the different ones and some of the cheaper ones sounded great, pretty much as good as the more expensive ones. Then I played them side to side and noticed the more expensive one sounded better. If I didn't notice it before though, is it worth the extra money? I won't be missing something my ears aren't sensitive enough to hear unless compared side by side. It's just my two cents. On another note, I need to buy a decent set of headphones. Durability, comfort, and all around good/balanced sound. Suggestions are appreciated yeah i understand where you're coming from. for headphones - what's the price range? and what headphones have you previously listened to? i know it's kinda ... sounds elitist to ask this, but i truly think it makes a difference in what you should buy. i explained why in a previous post in this the last page. I had a nice bose head set but it was my parents so I didn't get to keep it. It was an older model of their current Quietcomfort Acoustic noise headsets. Price range somewhere in the middle, probably around 150$. i'd say look up some reviews of the audio-technica M50 and see if you like them
Has some awesome reviews, definitely considering them. Any 2nd choices? Just to have some comparison and options.
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