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On December 19 2010 13:28 Myrmidon wrote:
@buhhy: By noise canceling, do you mean active noise canceling? Active noise canceling is pretty rare, it makes things sound worse anyway, and it's usually only good for constant noises. If you don't need active noise canceling, think about the Audio-Technica ATH-M50. Normal price is around 110-130 USD I think, so hopefully that's in the price range. It's fairly rugged and folds up. Sound quality is good for the price, according to many reports.
Ah k cool will take a look. The reason why I'd want active noise cancelling is because I use headphones the most on the bus and on the car, and I don't want to crank the sound up too high. Though TBH, I have no idea if noise cancelling is worse for your ears than loud sounds.
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On December 20 2010 10:06 buhhy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2010 13:28 Myrmidon wrote:
@buhhy: By noise canceling, do you mean active noise canceling? Active noise canceling is pretty rare, it makes things sound worse anyway, and it's usually only good for constant noises. If you don't need active noise canceling, think about the Audio-Technica ATH-M50. Normal price is around 110-130 USD I think, so hopefully that's in the price range. It's fairly rugged and folds up. Sound quality is good for the price, according to many reports.
Ah k cool will take a look. The reason why I'd want active noise cancelling is because I use headphones the most on the bus and on the car, and I don't want to crank the sound up too high. Though TBH, I have no idea if noise cancelling is worse for your ears than loud sounds.
You want passive isolation. Either with in-ear monitors or with closed full-sized like the m50.
Noise canceling is pretty much a gimmick. Worse sound quality, needs batteries, doesn't work very well, etc.
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As far as I know, the advertised "noise cancelling" works using the concept of 'destructive interference' - which is to eliminates a waveform if it collides with an equal but opposite waveform. This technology only really works at reducing the constant 'noise', like humming or buzzing or anything consistent like that. The human voice isn't reduced, so buying these to wear on a bus or something like that wouldn't do anything, other than block (maybe) the engine humming, or buzzing of the lights, etc. If you think of it, it makes sense because 'noise' is just garbage that you typically want to get rid of.
I also find that I was looking into a pair of noise cancelling headphones, and i could hear the faint humming of headphones themselves, which gave me headaches. I stick with the conventional around-ear headphones which just have a physical barrier which works just fine for me.
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Hi all
Looking to buy some headphones, don't want to spend more than $100 US (that would be maximum), as im from Australia and would have to pay shipping cost 
Any recommendations? Im looking for some all purpose headphones for my PC, so that would include SC2 and listening to music, watching movies. I dont need anything amazing, but comfort is pretty important.
Also, where is a good place to buy online?
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On December 20 2010 10:20 Fyodor wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 10:06 buhhy wrote:On December 19 2010 13:28 Myrmidon wrote:
@buhhy: By noise canceling, do you mean active noise canceling? Active noise canceling is pretty rare, it makes things sound worse anyway, and it's usually only good for constant noises. If you don't need active noise canceling, think about the Audio-Technica ATH-M50. Normal price is around 110-130 USD I think, so hopefully that's in the price range. It's fairly rugged and folds up. Sound quality is good for the price, according to many reports.
Ah k cool will take a look. The reason why I'd want active noise cancelling is because I use headphones the most on the bus and on the car, and I don't want to crank the sound up too high. Though TBH, I have no idea if noise cancelling is worse for your ears than loud sounds. You want passive isolation. Either with in-ear monitors or with closed full-sized like the m50. Noise canceling is pretty much a gimmick. Worse sound quality, needs batteries, doesn't work very well, etc.
Hmm, ok, thanks for the advice, I've never had closed headphones before. Will check out the m50's.
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am i correct in thinking that really good gaming headphones, i.e. ones with surround sound, wont benefit me at all by plugging them into my laptop?
like i need a good soundcard or something to get the surround effect, correct?
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Im looking for some new headphones to replace my Sony XD100, they are decent and semi comfortable but the bass seems to be lacking.
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Checking the thread someone here linked the Senheiser HD201 seem to be the best choice for mid range but that thread was from 2007 so maybe now theres something better? I want them for both gaming (no mic though) and listening to A LOT of music from a lot of different genres. So im mainly looking for something thats super comfortable and isnt "designed" for rock or hip hop but "excels" all around.
Im willing to spend up to 50, any recommendations?
Also, is there a difference in plugin them to my speakers instead of directly to the back audio-in?
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Bought myself a pair of Sennheiser PC350 a couple of years back when i was at a lan party, where the guy behind me kept pumping loud music the entire time. So I needed a pair of closed headphones.
I'm no big expert on these things, but these are the best ones I have ever had- The mic is phenomenal, the sound is great, they close out a lot surrounding noise. After 2 years of brutal use, it shows no sign of wear whatsoever.
EDIT: should also mention that these costs around 200 USD in my country, probably cheaper everywhere else. But they are indeed worth it.
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Had a search, can anyone comment on the Audio-Technica ATH-M35s?
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Hi audiophiles,
I just got a Grado RS60i, and I only have a laptop with a shitty audio card to plug it. I have a few noobs questions for you guys, in order to improve the sound quality
- Is it worth to get all my music in FLAC, or 320kps MP3 is fine ? I mean, is there any audible difference ?
- Any recommended player ? I heard the software player you use has some impact.
- I assume I should disable the SRS Wow options to have a better fidelity, right ?
- Since it's only a 32 omh imp, is it worth to use an amp like a Fiio ?
This is a really interested topic, but most of the times when I browse headphones dedicated forums, I can only find advice for using this 1000$ headphone on this 3000$ amp etc. (no offence, it's just not my current budget and this advice is not applicable for me)
Thanks a lot guys !
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I tried earbuds once on my comp but then i couldnt here my clicky filco blues anymore T_T..
Im using this one now:
![[image loading]](http://members.aon.at/biturbo/777.jpg)
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On December 20 2010 18:51 endy wrote:
This is a really interested topic, but most of the times when I browse headphones dedicated forums, I can only find advice for using this 1000$ headphone on this 3000$ amp etc. (no offence, it's just not my current budget and this advice is not applicable for me)
Thanks a lot guys !
Audiophiles are fucking nuts. If you go to any audio dedicated website, then entry level equipment starts at $1k, period. Anything below that is garbage to them. No offense to anyone here .
Anyway...
Amazon's Deal of the day today is the Monster Turbine IEMs for $58.99. Someone recommended them as entry level IEMs before and every review I've read about them has been good for their price. Most reviewers say they are only worth $100 and shouldn't be priced higher than that. I was waiting for a drop and amazon did just that  . I ordered a pair.
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On December 20 2010 19:16 AT_Tack wrote:I tried earbuds once on my comp but then i couldnt here my clicky filco blues anymore T_T.. Im using this one now:
I use and love these headphones.
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I ordered a pair of Sennheiser HD25 Originals last week so they should be coming soon. I just couldn't resist the blue x_x
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On December 20 2010 19:31 Joementum wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 18:51 endy wrote:
This is a really interested topic, but most of the times when I browse headphones dedicated forums, I can only find advice for using this 1000$ headphone on this 3000$ amp etc. (no offence, it's just not my current budget and this advice is not applicable for me)
Thanks a lot guys ! Audiophiles are fucking nuts. If you go to any audio dedicated website, then entry level equipment starts at $1k, period. Anything below that is garbage to them. No offense to anyone here . Anyway... Amazon's Deal of the day today is the Monster Turbine IEMs for $58.99. Someone recommended them as entry level IEMs before and every review I've read about them has been good for their price. Most reviewers say they are only worth $100 and shouldn't be priced higher than that. I was waiting for a drop and amazon did just that . I ordered a pair.
I bought them at the same deal a month ago ($58.99) It's a steal in that price range. You might notice alot of bass in songs that you wouldn't normally hear them (they're "slightly" emphasized) but still,you won't go wrong with it,especially with that price.I personally reccommend these.
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On December 20 2010 11:19 wiztek wrote:
Had a search, can anyone comment on the Audio-Technica ATH-M35s?
Audio-Technica's studio monitors aren't very musical or good. Save the m50 which is more of a consumer headphone anyways.
On December 20 2010 11:12 Subversion wrote:
am i correct in thinking that really good gaming headphones, i.e. ones with surround sound, wont benefit me at all by plugging them into my laptop?
like i need a good soundcard or something to get the surround effect, correct?
Surround headphones are a joke right now. Nothing really has an accurate soundstage to help you frag. In fact you only lose out in clarity going this way because the SQ on those is abysmal.
but I'm pretty sure most motherboards can output 5.1 audio. So there shouldn't be a problem AFAIK.
On December 20 2010 18:51 endy wrote:
Hi audiophiles,
I just got a Grado RS60i, and I only have a laptop with a shitty audio card to plug it. I have a few noobs questions for you guys, in order to improve the sound quality
- Is it worth to get all my music in FLAC, or 320kps MP3 is fine ? I mean, is there any audible difference ?
- Any recommended player ? I heard the software player you use has some impact.
- I assume I should disable the SRS Wow options to have a better fidelity, right ?
- Since it's only a 32 omh imp, is it worth to use an amp like a Fiio ?
This is a really interested topic, but most of the times when I browse headphones dedicated forums, I can only find advice for using this 1000$ headphone on this 3000$ amp etc. (no offence, it's just not my current budget and this advice is not applicable for me)
Thanks a lot guys !
as for formats, 320kbps is usually fine afaik.
The software is a very interesting question however. What I personally use is the WASAPI plugin for foobar2000. it sends an un-doctored or "bit-perfect" signal to your DAC. It doesn't let the windows mixing thing fool around with your music. But you had the right idea, you ideally don't want anything altering the sound before it hits the DAC. So disable SRS wow. (I don't think the realtek DACs (All integrated audio chips) can handle bit-perfect, it crashes my foobar when I try to pass control to it.)
Grados don't mind having a solid amp but I'm not sure a FiiO would make a difference. It would probably just make it worse if you're planning on using it from your PC. FiiO does sell some neat DAC/amps that plug into some MP3 players tho.
On December 20 2010 19:31 Joementum wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2010 18:51 endy wrote:
This is a really interested topic, but most of the times when I browse headphones dedicated forums, I can only find advice for using this 1000$ headphone on this 3000$ amp etc. (no offence, it's just not my current budget and this advice is not applicable for me)
Thanks a lot guys ! Audiophiles are fucking nuts. If you go to any audio dedicated website, then entry level equipment starts at $1k, period. Anything below that is garbage to them. No offense to anyone here . Anyway... Amazon's Deal of the day today is the Monster Turbine IEMs for $58.99. Someone recommended them as entry level IEMs before and every review I've read about them has been good for their price. Most reviewers say they are only worth $100 and shouldn't be priced higher than that. I was waiting for a drop and amazon did just that . I ordered a pair.
I've only heard good things about the turbines, good deal!
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On December 19 2010 20:45 TheGiftedApe wrote:Hey I have a pair of AKG k240 studios, I love em, but being a drummer, my eardrums are fuckin blown to shit  I need a pre-amp, the head phones are 55 ohms, so i dont need any insane power, just a little extra juice, I need something that gives me a little juice, but keeps my great sound quality its all about sound quality to me, my budget is under 100$ usd. preferably under 70$ usd. thanks a bunch. Show nested quote +On December 19 2010 13:42 hifriend wrote:
I'm looking to get some open cans to complement my ath-m50's in the $100-200 range. I have a couple of porta pro's and I'm quite happy with the way they sound but what would be a good step up from there? I mostly listen to edm but also a fair amount of old rock etc. to this guy akg k240 studio, 99$ usd right now, they have the same driver as many of the more expensive AKG headphones in them, they sound freakin awesome, worth more than 100$ for sure. + Show Spoiler +I have a couple pairs of shitty sony headphones, and a pair of sennheiser 555's (which i have now given to my friend) these things blow the sennheiser out of the water. On my .flac lossless music, sounds like the artist is talking into my ears...
Thanks for the reply. I've been reading a ton of reviews and I must say it looks pretty damn good for the k240's. Hmm I'm too excited to get new headphones I'll probably end up entering some store tomorrow picking those up.
Also, I'm growing more accustomed to my ath-m50's for each day that passes and I'm just amazed at how good they sound. Best purchase in a long while for me.
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On December 20 2010 20:00 Kinky wrote:I ordered a pair of Sennheiser HD25 Originals last week so they should be coming soon. I just couldn't resist the blue x_x + Show Spoiler +
Eeeeeeeeep!!! I've wanted to get those for ages but I couldn't see myself dropping 350 AUD for them!! Arghh! How much did you pay?
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If you have any type of software volume control, isn't that theoretically not bit-perfect even if you're using an application running audio through WASAPI exclusive mode control (and thus bypassing Windows audio mixing/whatever)? Of course, software volume control is just decreasing the amplitude of the output through a constant multiplicative factor, which is about as benign an operation as you can do.
But I'm not sure if there's anything wrong with just using the default audio processing stack. If you want to add some processing effects on top of all your audio, exclusive mode WASAPI would bypass that. If you don't want any of those effects, you can just turn them off yourself.
On my setup with the foobar plugin, I've been unable to tell any difference using WASAPI exclusive mode and not. That's just one data point though. You can try it for yourself, but I don't think it's a must-do.
I think pre-Vista, Windows maybe used to do weirder things with the audio, so kernel streaming was a hot topic. Maybe they still do weird things. I wouldn't be too surprised one way or the other. Some earlier sound cards and audio processing devices used to do some poor resampling causing noticeable distortions, and had other problems too. Perhaps nowadays, the issue is overblown in the audiophile community.
PS: to be honest though, if you have Grados, doesn't that mean you're not interested in exact sound reproduction anyway?
@hifriend: For that kind of music, I think something with a smiley-shaped frequency response would sound good. i.e. strong bass + strong treble. If you can stand how they fit/feel, Grados fit the bill. AKG is mostly known for being mids-centric, but apparently the modern K240 variants have fairly strong bass and treble relative to the mids. The K240 Studio, K240 Mk II, and K242 HD all have the same transducers, which are different and cheaper than those in the oldschool K240 models. Beyerdynamic DT-990 is also open and fits the description as well, though more people prefer the DT-880 in general. It might be out of your price range though.
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