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Kanye West's Runaway - Page 5

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Teivospylol
Profile Joined September 2010
Djibouti47 Posts
October 26 2010 22:01 GMT
#81
judging from the randomness of this video I figure kanye is going to be the male version of lady gaga eventually

oh how far have we fallen in 3 years
Ji
BentoBox
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada303 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-26 22:26:04
October 26 2010 22:09 GMT
#82
I liked the imagery. I liked the music. The message conveyed by the film was fairly simple and certainly overdone, but unless somebody finds me a quote depicting Kanye as putting forth this piece of art (regardless of whether you find it good or bad, it is art) as the next best thing since sliced bread, you are simply making assumptions based on his past actions and behavior.

If you don't like him as an artist, that is perfectly fine. He is still one of the better hip hop artists that's made it far mainstream.

Yes, Jay Elec, K-Os, Lupe, etc are better lyricists. Sure, Dilla, Premier, 9th Wonder, Pete Rock are more experienced beat makers. But I couldn't name you many artists who've dabbled into both at a competent level enough.
Only dead fish swim with the stream
JamesJohansen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States213 Posts
October 26 2010 22:44 GMT
#83
On October 26 2010 12:30 Beaudereck wrote:
So fucking original, Mozart !


Please don't compare actual musicians to this douchebag. Wasn't all that impressed but I suppose I'm biased against Kanye as a whole. Truth be told, I never really was that big of a fan of Hip Hop and never saw anything unique or groundbreaking about Kanye West. He's just more hyped than others, thats all
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
October 26 2010 23:20 GMT
#84
I've never taken the time to form much of an opinion at all about Kanye and i openly admit that, in regards to his music. However i did watch more than half of this video and it was atrocious. I also don't agree that the problem is Kanye's view on the video, which to me is undetermined. I just feel the need to make clear to any of his fans retarded enough to not realize it, first that this video, for all its elaborate imagery and expansive though vague suggestion of metaphor, is an attempt at "high art" or at least certainly an attempt to imitate it. Its judgement can't be forgiven as any sort of humble entertainment. Second that it is thus highly pretentious, as it is horribly done and, if the bulk of it has any meaning, it doesn't come across. Whether this was put forward as an actual part of his prideful proper body of work, or just an experimental dabbling in new fields released to the public out of modest openness, the video is what it is. I'd appretiate it if anybody who's been defending Kanye in this argument would admit it.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
Elevenst
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada249 Posts
October 26 2010 23:26 GMT
#85
it's official i have no idea what's going on in pop music. or hip hop rap w/e you call this stuff.
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
October 26 2010 23:32 GMT
#86
On October 27 2010 08:26 Elevenst wrote:
it's official i have no idea what's going on in pop music. or hip hop rap w/e you call this stuff.

Pretty much my feelings on the situation too.
news
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
892 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 00:02:13
October 26 2010 23:35 GMT
#87
On October 26 2010 11:48 LegendaryZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 11:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The music is excellent. Kanye is often sneered at by musical elitists because of his popularity but he is an absolutely brilliant producer and this album looks like it will be his best.

The movie was awesome.


Good producer? Absolutely. That is his background after all. I don't think he's that great of an artist though and most people I know that sneer at him do so because he's an obnoxious douchebag above all else.


Him being a douchebag has nothing to do with how good of an artist he is. And why is he a bad artist btw?

On October 26 2010 13:21 Wr3k wrote:
You obviously don't know what real hiphop is.

Maybe try something like:

ATCQ
LL Cool J
Mobb Deep
KRS One
Public Enemy
Beatnuts
Coolio
Dre
Sugarhill Gang
Grandmaster Flash & the furious five
Afrika Bambataa
Digable planets
Pete Rock & CL smooth

Kanye doesn't have shit all on any of these guys. The quality of hip-hop/rap has gone down the toilet since the 90's. There are a still a few good artists making decent music (I think K-os is my favorite of the newer artists, his songwriting makes Kanye look like a 5th grader). Don't even get me started on idiots like Little Wayne...


Just made me smile, some people are hard to faze. Can you at least listen to your gourmet music alone somewhere without posting this huge list in every hip-hop thread that is going to come up in the future? Because I feel bad for everyone having to skim through that incredibly annoying post, including myself.
"Althought it sounds sexism, and probably is, given the right context, we cannot classify the statement itself as a sexist statement by itself," - evanthebouncy!
THE_DOMINATOR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States309 Posts
October 26 2010 23:55 GMT
#88
On October 27 2010 08:35 News wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 11:48 LegendaryZ wrote:
On October 26 2010 11:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
The music is excellent. Kanye is often sneered at by musical elitists because of his popularity but he is an absolutely brilliant producer and this album looks like it will be his best.

The movie was awesome.


Good producer? Absolutely. That is his background after all. I don't think he's that great of an artist though and most people I know that sneer at him do so because he's an obnoxious douchebag above all else.


Him being a douchebag has nothing to do with with how great of an artist he is. And why is he a bad artist btw?

Show nested quote +
On October 26 2010 13:21 Wr3k wrote:
You obviously don't know what real hiphop is.

Maybe try something like:

ATCQ
LL Cool J
Mobb Deep
KRS One
Public Enemy
Beatnuts
Coolio
Dre
Sugarhill Gang
Grandmaster Flash & the furious five
Afrika Bambataa
Digable planets
Pete Rock & CL smooth

Kanye doesn't have shit all on any of these guys. The quality of hip-hop/rap has gone down the toilet since the 90's. There are a still a few good artists making decent music (I think K-os is my favorite of the newer artists, his songwriting makes Kanye look like a 5th grader). Don't even get me started on idiots like Little Wayne...


Just made me smile, some people are hard to faze. Can you at least listen to your gourmet music alone somewhere without posting this huge list in every hip-hop thread that is going to come up in the future? Because I feel bad for everyone having to skim through that incredibly annoying post, including myself.

See butthurt :D
DOMINATION
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
October 27 2010 00:04 GMT
#89
On October 27 2010 04:51 GabeTheBeast wrote:
The acting isn't the best, but the music is awesome. Has anyone else been downloading every song off of G.o.o.d. Fridays? If not, check em out at www.kanyewest.com None of them except for Monster are on the new upcoming album 'My Dark Twisted Fantasy'.


I think Devil in a New Dress will also be on his new album. I'm thinking about pre-ordering it on iTunes but i think i'll wait for a physical cd.

And like most of the people in this threat... Kanye's music has deteriorated since College Dropout. Late Registration and College Dropout were great hip-hop albums with a lot of jazz and soul influences. This new album looks like it will be at least better than Graduation but for a hip-hop album, thats not saying much. I am looking forward for Lasers this coming March. imo... Lupe Fiasco has one of the best flows and rhyming schemes of any rapper ever. He might not be the best rapper ever, but he's more modern so i can connect to his songs more than other rappers like Rakim, Nas, KRS, biggie, big l, and so forth who rapped about topics in my childhood that didn't really affect me.
Rawenkeke
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway350 Posts
October 27 2010 00:05 GMT
#90
On October 27 2010 07:01 Teivospylol wrote:
judging from the randomness of this video I figure kanye is going to be the male version of lady gaga eventually

oh how far have we fallen in 3 years


I've already lost all hope for humanity...
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
October 27 2010 00:34 GMT
#91
On October 27 2010 08:32 Matoo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2010 08:26 Elevenst wrote:
it's official i have no idea what's going on in pop music. or hip hop rap w/e you call this stuff.

Pretty much my feelings on the situation too.


Same here. Dont know what to call it. You can call it art if you like. Personally I´d call it a snoozefest.
Lefnui
Profile Joined November 2008
United States753 Posts
October 27 2010 13:02 GMT
#92
On October 27 2010 06:58 Thrill wrote:
A musical and lyrical genius - yes, but more than anything - a master of production. Whenever Kanye's involved, the artistic end product always takes us a bit closer to the sun, albeit sometimes on waxen wings.

You can not be fucking serious.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-27 13:49:15
October 27 2010 13:10 GMT
#93
LOL. I liked the music. Good stuff.
The video was like whatever. I got bored and just kept the music running in the background.
I believe it's what any sensible person would do.
Angel girl was terrible, made me mad.

Ok, after finishing, I decided it sucks actually. Intro was the best.
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Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
October 28 2010 05:38 GMT
#94
The video is of course well produced. The music is fantastic but yeah... the movie fucking blows. I like the eyecandy but other than that I definitely would not watch it again.

Now, if you want a music video that actually has some depth to it M.I.A.'s latest work is where you should look. It's also an actual short film (Much shorter though at only 9 minutes). It's actually mindblowingly good.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd2w3j_m-i-a-born-free-video-official-real_music
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echobong
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada92 Posts
October 28 2010 05:52 GMT
#95
On October 26 2010 16:53 cursor wrote:
This seems like an extremely pointed attempt to seem deep, abstract and artistic. Very sad actually. I'd prefer not to give this any more attention.

I'm SO tired of this kinna crap. (Edit: AKA Lady Gaga, perfect example of "other") It's not deep or profound, its just an attempt to seem so to dumb people. And just for the record, I'll point out the obvious that "identifying opposites" is NOT deep. Black/White, Up/Down, Devil/Angel... why does this always get people to think they have meaning? AKA: Bumper stickers with Angel on one side, Devil on other... or songs that say "I hate you, I love you"... ugh... are you fucking kidding me?

This guy is so self indulgent is just begging for attention. I feel dumb for watching most of the video actually expecting that it would have content. Fuck.


God, thank you for your post. Was waiting for one rational voice. Man, humanity might have a chance. Seriously. You nailed my thoughts exactly.
Dark.Pyro
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada94 Posts
October 29 2010 16:12 GMT
#96
I watched this and liked the imagery in it. It's got a nice vibrant feel from a production standpoint.

Before I actually 'watched' it though, I had it playing through my sc2ing and realized that some of the songs are pretty badass.

Does anyone know if kanye has them out for downloads or anything? I heard he does to promote his albums.
If so, please pm me the link or something Thanks!
I Live for Aiur
CheeseGrater
Profile Joined August 2010
United States290 Posts
October 29 2010 16:21 GMT
#97
Kanye has a couple OK songs but for the most part I hate him. He just seems like a generally bad person.
devil`
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States176 Posts
October 29 2010 19:39 GMT
#98
Honestly, that shit was amazing.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
October 29 2010 19:51 GMT
#99
god every time i watch the preview for Power i laugh my ass off

could he be more egotistical

it's so awesome though;
RIP Aaliyah
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
October 29 2010 20:00 GMT
#100
I thought it was pretty boring.
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