EPTKanye West's Runaway - Page 3
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
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THE_DOMINATOR
United States309 Posts
On October 26 2010 13:32 LaLLsc2 wrote: You wanna talk about pretentious? The line starts behind this guy. You know its okay to like artists like K-os and Kayne right? I happen to love K-os, and I used to have the same close minded hip hop views as people like you. You gotta open up and love this new shit for what it is. Theres shit to love, trust me It has always bothered me that there is a relatively high level of ignorance present in our population concerning the subject of Art. First let me state that not all entertainment is art and that not all art is good art. Good, meaning that the piece expresses emotions or ideas in a genuine and somewhat unique fashion. However that is not to say that there are pieces of art that are identical to one and another but to say that when two pieces express the same idea in generally the same way the newer piece will be of less artistic value unless it makes vast improvements over its predecessor. At the very least the newer work should acknowledge the existence of the older piece. Under these circumstances it can be said that ignorance breeds bad art and that an ignorant artist is limited by his or her own lack of exploration. This is why Kanye's RunAway is an example of bad art and furthermore and example of ignorance and arrogance. When entertainers try to produce art or a piece that they would like to be considered art(I am assuming Kanye believes his movie to be art) it is irritating and insulting when they disregard some two thousand years of art and create an overproduced and shallow work that is then consumed by the masses and is considered a beautiful piece of art by those who have never seen and understood a beautiful piece of art that has stood the test of time. The real source of my frustration stems not from Kanye's blunder but from the masses acceptance of it as a groundbreaking work. | ||
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Shrinky Dink
United States52 Posts
On October 26 2010 12:59 Wr3k wrote: I wholeheartedly agree, just because you can throw together some semi-interesting imagery with some decent audio production doesn't mean you have any talent. I never liked any of his music in the first place. People give this guy way too much credit, there so many incredibly talented people when it comes to songwriting, producing and directing who make him look mediocre at best. I'm sure I could find 5 relatively un-famous artists on youtube who make him look incompetent. On the plus side the super hot model dressed as a bird was fun to look at for a while. Oh and it doesn't help that he has an ego the size of the pacific ocean and sub-average intellect. Whether you like it or not and defend him in the OP you can't remove the bias everyone has due to various idiotic things he has done in public. Do you like fishsticks? Someone is quite mad here. Hm, so this talentless, below average intelligence hip hop singer has/still is going to make more money then everyone in this thread combined. Yeah, hes a awful actor and he really cant sing, that doesnt mean you cant make music that people out there like. Just because you dont like him doesnt mean everyone else doesnt like him. Sure he has an ego, but maybe the ego got him to where he is now? making high selling albums and now this interesting 30 min video? Im not exactly defending him, but saying hes talentless and makes "semi(lol)-interesting imagery" is very narrow minded and is obviously false from his record sales. hurp durp. btw, fishticks, thats A SILLY QUESTION SIR WALTER! (edit:spelling) | ||
Alou
United States3748 Posts
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hitman133
United States1425 Posts
But too long, i don't like long music vid at all. | ||
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Contagious
United States1319 Posts
On October 26 2010 13:21 Wr3k wrote: You obviously don't know what real hiphop is. Maybe try something like: ATCQ LL Cool J Mobb Deep KRS One Public Enemy Beatnuts Coolio Dre Sugarhill Gang Grandmaster Flash & the furious five Afrika Bambataa Digable planets Pete Rock & CL smooth Kanye doesn't have shit all on any of these guys. The quality of hip-hop/rap has gone down the toilet since the 90's. There are a still a few good artists making decent music (I think K-os is my favorite of the newer artists, his songwriting makes Kanye look like a 5th grader). Don't even get me started on idiots like Little Wayne... Unfortunately half of his list is Hip-Pop. The only real people that belong on this list will probably be PE, LL, Grandmaster flash, Pete Rock & CL smooth, and KRS One. The rest are just taken off of another hip hop snob list. Oh, and psst.. K-OS isn't a newer rapper.. the guy has been around for a while now man. If you're gonna be dropping names like Sugarhill gang you gotta realize that K-OS has been around since the 90s. xD To be honest, the best hip hop artists in the game right now are probably Mos Def or Black Thought. I'm not gonna put down anyone who doesn't think so, but they probably just dont understand the content if they don't see them as some of the best that ever lived. p.s. where is madlib? | ||
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duBstar
United States57 Posts
He makes good music end of story. | ||
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heyitsme
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Bub
United States3518 Posts
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Alou
United States3748 Posts
On October 26 2010 14:19 hitman133 wrote: The chick in this vid is so hottttt!! But too long, i don't like long music vid at all. It's not a music video, it probably falls into the category of a short film. | ||
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Enervate
United States1769 Posts
On October 26 2010 14:09 THE_DOMINATOR wrote: It has always bothered me that there is a relatively high level of ignorance present in our population concerning the subject of Art. First let me state that not all entertainment is art and that not all art is good art. Good, meaning that the piece expresses emotions or ideas in a genuine and somewhat unique fashion. However that is not to say that there are pieces of art that are identical to one and another but to say that when two pieces express the same idea in generally the same way the newer piece will be of less artistic value unless it makes vast improvements over its predecessor. At the very least the newer work should acknowledge the existence of the older piece. Under these circumstances it can be said that ignorance breeds bad art and that an ignorant artist is limited by his or her own lack of exploration. This is why Kanye's RunAway is an example of bad art and furthermore and example of ignorance and arrogance. When entertainers try to produce art or a piece that they would like to be considered art(I am assuming Kanye believes his movie to be art) it is irritating and insulting when they disregard some two thousand years of art and create an overproduced and shallow work that is then consumed by the masses and is considered a beautiful piece of art by those who have never seen and understood a beautiful piece of art that has stood the test of time. The real source of my frustration stems not from Kanye's blunder but from the masses acceptance of it as a groundbreaking work. It can be said that ignorance breeds bad art interpretation and that an ignorant audience member is limited by his or her own lack of exploration. This is why you are an example of bad art interpretation and furthermore an example of ignorance and arrogance. When an audience member tries to produce a review and creates a pretentious and lofty message that hopes to convert the opinions of the masses, it is irritating and insulting when he or she pretends to be the definitive guide on some two thousand years of art... while somehow being entirely rejected by everyone who actually has influence on the subject of beautiful art that can stand the test of time. The real source of my frustration stems not from your dislike of Kanye but from your frustrated attempts to discredit a modern day artist who has garnered great popuplarity among the people, who I'm assuming the art was for. | ||
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gLyo
United States2410 Posts
On October 26 2010 14:09 THE_DOMINATOR wrote: It has always bothered me that there is a relatively high level of ignorance present in our population concerning the subject of Art. First let me state that not all entertainment is art and that not all art is good art. Good, meaning that the piece expresses emotions or ideas in a genuine and somewhat unique fashion. However that is not to say that there are pieces of art that are identical to one and another but to say that when two pieces express the same idea in generally the same way the newer piece will be of less artistic value unless it makes vast improvements over its predecessor. At the very least the newer work should acknowledge the existence of the older piece. Under these circumstances it can be said that ignorance breeds bad art and that an ignorant artist is limited by his or her own lack of exploration. This is why Kanye's RunAway is an example of bad art and furthermore and example of ignorance and arrogance. When entertainers try to produce art or a piece that they would like to be considered art(I am assuming Kanye believes his movie to be art) it is irritating and insulting when they disregard some two thousand years of art and create an overproduced and shallow work that is then consumed by the masses and is considered a beautiful piece of art by those who have never seen and understood a beautiful piece of art that has stood the test of time. The real source of my frustration stems not from Kanye's blunder but from the masses acceptance of it as a groundbreaking work. It sounds like you've got something personal against Kanye. Claiming he has disregarded two thousand years of art is ludicrous, at best: how did he make anything at all without looking at what came before? You're judging this film as high art when it is clearly not. Try and lighten up, maybe you won't be so bitter. | ||
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ldrs
United States31 Posts
I don't really like hop-hop but I enjoyed the music sans lyrics. I mean like seriously some of the lyrics just made me go "What?" "I sent this bitch a picture of my dick" what? | ||
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Obsolescence
United States270 Posts
On October 26 2010 14:44 gLyo wrote: It sounds like you've got something personal against Kanye. Claiming he has disregarded two thousand years of art is ludicrous, at best: how did he make anything at all without looking at what came before? You're judging this film as high art when it is clearly not. Try and lighten up, maybe you won't be so bitter. Please don't lighten up! Stay bitter! I love reading these tirades by people who have attained the level of arrogance necessary to fool themselves into believing that art, or Art  , is an objective issue. There is no such thing as good art nor bad art. Shit, 'art,' or 'Art,' isn't even an objective label. I could easily argue that art, or Art, doesn't even exist, just like your imaginary friend. Art is bunk. Philosophy is bunk. Religion is bunk. These subjects are all contained in my new 6-week course, Bunkology 101. I look forward to seeing you all there. | ||
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_Darwin_
United States2374 Posts
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LaLLsc2
United States502 Posts
On October 26 2010 15:19 _Darwin_ wrote: College Dropout & Late Registration are great albums. There's actually substance in some of his songs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI Haha Bush... good joke | ||
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
On October 26 2010 15:13 ldrs wrote: I don't really like hop-hop but I enjoyed the music sans lyrics. I mean like seriously some of the lyrics just made me go "What?" "I sent this bitch a picture of my dick" what? You don't consider these lyrics artistic? This is romance in it's purest form. | ||
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drag00n
United States24 Posts
the only thing that made it bearable was the ballerinas and music...and selita of course | ||
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qck
United Kingdom201 Posts
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THE_DOMINATOR
United States309 Posts
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