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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
November 24 2010 02:25 GMT
#141
I'm loving the new one Kanye does good work as always :3.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
November 24 2010 02:49 GMT
#142
I am a long time listener to classical music and I've been heavily involved in all sorts of art. I don't think this video can be classified as anything artistic, but it's a step in the right direction. The themes presented are quite simple and colloquial. The producer attempted to play around with color schemes a bit, but to very little effect. I can't comment much on the music since it wasn't to my tastes. In Starcraft terms, I guess you can say that they tried to imitate a build that the pros do, but due to them being in platinum, they couldn't pull it off. Despite all this, I'm still happy that modern age musicians are looking towards this type of thing.
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
November 24 2010 03:15 GMT
#143
I don't see what's so good with this song and film, think it reaaally sucks, no really impressive lyrics or something, meh. If you should make a 20min+ song it should be a masterpiece, this isn't.
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Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 03:18:38
November 24 2010 03:18 GMT
#144
On November 24 2010 11:49 Chairman Ray wrote:
I am a long time listener to classical music and I've been heavily involved in all sorts of art. I don't think this video can be classified as anything artistic, but it's a step in the right direction. The themes presented are quite simple and colloquial. The producer attempted to play around with color schemes a bit, but to very little effect. I can't comment much on the music since it wasn't to my tastes. In Starcraft terms, I guess you can say that they tried to imitate a build that the pros do, but due to them being in platinum, they couldn't pull it off. Despite all this, I'm still happy that modern age musicians are looking towards this type of thing.


best said here. In a time where Ke"$"ha and Lil' Wayne surround the mainwaves, people just think of something like this as being such an artsy fartsy film. It isn't at all, and it doesn't even really make sense except for the fact that he is trying to explain his life a little better and all the criticisms he goes through. Also, he says that he was trying to use different colors to express meanings in an interview he had, but he never really explained what the colors did.. they are kind of just there.

but I love Kanye and his music, so obviously I buy into anything he says and will keep supporting him no matter how crazy the duder gets.
calcarus
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia103 Posts
November 24 2010 03:31 GMT
#145
I hate the way kayne takes a great song, takes the part which everyone knows from that song and then does some shitty rap around it and calls it his own song.

The reason most people like his stuff is because the original songs he 'samples' are great, without them he would be nothing.

couldnt get mroe then afew minutes into this, probably because of my already bias opinion.
"All I know, is that I know nothing" - Socrates
Whitesheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States59 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 03:39:18
November 24 2010 03:31 GMT
#146
jesus christ.
everything this idiot does irritates me.
he tries his hardest to come off as an extraordinary artist, but fails massively.
everytime i see him on tv, or hear him on the radio i get a massive migrain.

if i were to pick a mainstream artist, it'd have to be lil' wayne over this fag,
because his lyrics at least give some stimulation.
kanye just spews tons and tons of shitty lyrics at you, its deafening.

sorry for the flame;p
pfft
news
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
892 Posts
November 24 2010 03:33 GMT
#147
It's funny how people blame his lyrics or his talent or whatever else and compare him to some abstract rappers from early 90s. All that peacocking literally amounts for nothing, it doesn't matter how deep GZA was or how real Nas used to sound.

All of this is a stupid and useless rhetoric that has little to nothing to do with contemporary music. I'm not going to spin Tupac and Dre on everyday basis, if you do - big props, be a true degenerate and stay like that. Many of Kanyes joints can be classified as pop music, so what? Why does every pissy forum critic has to leave a salty comment how he doesn't rep "real" hip-hop?

You know how some people can make a simple speech sound great? They can pick up your piece of shit essay, skim through it while making a few corrections and read it out loud, the way that makes your stomach tingle and covers your skin with goosebumps. Kanye has this talent. He doesn't need to sing about intestines or rhyme like an insane college dropout on meth. His talent is different - his shit just sounds good, he feels it. So enjoy it for what it's worth.
"Althought it sounds sexism, and probably is, given the right context, we cannot classify the statement itself as a sexist statement by itself," - evanthebouncy!
jcroisdale
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1543 Posts
November 24 2010 03:34 GMT
#148
On November 24 2010 12:31 Whitesheep wrote:
jesus christ.
everything this idiot does irritates me.
he tries his hardest to come off as an extraordinary artist, but fails massively.
everytime i see him on tv, or hear him on the radio i get a massive migrain.

if i were to pick a mainstream artist, it'd have to be lil' wayne over this fag,
because his lyrics at least give some stimulation.
kanye just spews tons and tons of shitty lyrics at you, its deafening.


Great post doesnt the OP say not to flame kanye etc... you do the exact opposite of that.=
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Whitesheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States59 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 03:38:46
November 24 2010 03:37 GMT
#149
pfft
news
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
892 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 04:03:46
November 24 2010 03:39 GMT
#150
On November 24 2010 12:37 Whitesheep wrote:


One of those silent farts?

Btw,
everyone trying to shit up this thread needs to post 2 of his favorite hip-hop artists at the end of his post, just so that people get to rip through them in return.
"Althought it sounds sexism, and probably is, given the right context, we cannot classify the statement itself as a sexist statement by itself," - evanthebouncy!
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 03:47:08
November 24 2010 03:44 GMT
#151
On November 24 2010 12:31 calcarus wrote:
I hate the way kayne takes a great song, takes the part which everyone knows from that song and then does some shitty rap around it and calls it his own song.

The reason most people like his stuff is because the original songs he 'samples' are great, without them he would be nothing.

couldnt get mroe then afew minutes into this, probably because of my already bias opinion.


Are you one of those 14 year olds who so valiantly defend daft punk. Because I have never heard of anything they ever did before they got sampled.

EDIT: LOL at whitesheep picking Wayne over Kanye
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Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
November 24 2010 04:48 GMT
#152
On November 24 2010 12:31 calcarus wrote:
I hate the way kayne takes a great song, takes the part which everyone knows from that song and then does some shitty rap around it and calls it his own song.

The reason most people like his stuff is because the original songs he 'samples' are great, without them he would be nothing.

couldnt get mroe then afew minutes into this, probably because of my already bias opinion.


what songs? Because if you're talking about Stronger, Daft Punk uses samples too in their music O_o.
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
November 24 2010 05:23 GMT
#153
On November 24 2010 11:22 Terrakin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2010 09:09 zobz wrote:
I concede that Kanye is really good at putting together beats, however his problem is that his inflated ego leads him to do other things which he is not at all good at, and that makes the overall quallity of his art much worse. You can't listen to rap and ignore the lyrics because the beat is good. It has to be all around good, or else the good and the bad cancel each other out imo. Now I even think that his beats are probably a fair amount more good than his lyrics are bad, and that makes his music more than listenable, however now he's made a video. I mean not he's made a good beat, laced it with shitty lyrics and then put out a video by good video directors/producers of his choice. No, he has to do everything himself, because he has no idea how untalented he is in all but one field, and so he wrote the lyrics, and directed and produced a freaking video by himself. And it's terrible. The bad far outweighs the good this time and I wish some more Kanye fans would admit it.

Integrity does not mean taking your artistic vision into your own hands on every single point of it, regardless of your own abilities. It means either limitting yourself to what you are able to do or collaborating. Not everybody can be Clint Eastwood. And you don't get points for trying.

Well, thats just like... your opinion man

but seriously if I were a huge musician like Kanye why wouldn't you want to spread around all genres? That's like saying you can only be good at one thing and NEVER try, never try to expand yourself.

And WTF do you want with lyrics? you want to get your mind blown, or do you want him to lie and say he thinks he's just another average person?

If someone told you don't play BW/SC2 you are untalented would you stop? If someone told IdrA you're so predictable/untalented I can beat you whenever would IdrA stop playing?

Sure the movie may have not been a top 10 list movie and has some cheesy scenes but does that make it so bad?

I wish you people would stop using his ego as an excuse, we all know its big, but that doesn't mean it has anything to do with his musical ability.
Of course it's my opinion but i happen to take pride in my opinions, and there's nothing wrong with pride nor is there anything about opinions which makes them an inherently silly object of it.

I don't believe that just because you're not good at something that means you shouldn't do it. The point that matters is that you don't get credit for trying. What i'm saying is that whatever may be true about what he IS good at, and whatever his rights to pursue whatever he wishes to, if he releases anything to the public which sucks as badly as that video does he deserves his criticism. And that there are so many people who are actually impressed by that piece of shit just because Kanye made it, even though that's not something that he's good at, is a plain atrocity. I mean the way people look at the art, products of a secondary or even tertiary field of talent, of revered public figures is akin to the judgement i expect to receive on my own art from my mom. "Oh it's just lovely Kanye! You can do anything you set your mind to!"
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 06:56:45
November 24 2010 06:55 GMT
#154
I bought the CD last monday and it is the best hip hop album I've heard since the Eminem Show. That is my OWN opinion. Kanye can't rap as well as Jay-Z or flow with crazy like Lupe Fiasco. He just makes raps that sound good. The beats are just amazing on this album. It's probably the best produced rap album i've ever heard in my entire life. I'm entitled to my opinion. Lots of people hate kanye, I don't. I may not respect his actions like calling Bush a racist or embarrasing Taylor Swift, but I don't hate him. He hasn't hurt me, all he's done is give me some good rap music in the ocean of shit that is on the radio (wayne, soulja boy, gucci mane, waka flocka flame, 50 cent,... the list goes on and includes all those 16 yr old kids on youtube who think they can rap).

And to all those who hate producers like Kanye who sample their beats, many producers do that regardless. All music is notes played in procession at different intervals, tempo, length and velocity. So many songs today are just copies of other riffs or progressions created perhaps decades or centuries ago but just played by a different instrument to make it sound completely diffrent. a C,D,G riff with a heavily distorted electric guitar sounds WAYY different from a soothing Cello but in the end, its the same notes in a diff speed and velocity. It's basically sampling and thats what many producers do. They use something they hear and they change it because they see the potential in that piece of music.

Now for autotune, I hate it. But on the other hand, vocoder has potential given time.. But in the end, if you compare voice to guitar, they are both acoustic. Bob Dylan was heavily criticized when he first used an Electric Guitar. A person's voice could be sent through a vocoder and create new sound just as an Electric guitar can create new sound out of the 6 strings. Given time, vocoder has potential to change people's voice. Vocoder =/= Autotune. Vocoder doesn't change the pitch just allows a person's voice to sound electricy or whatever sound you'd like.

And so people can hate my 2 favorite rappers excluding Kanye:
Lupe Fiasco
Big L
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-24 07:20:01
November 24 2010 07:18 GMT
#155
The new album is absolutely amazing. Kanye isn't a rapper you go to for amazing lyrics and wordplay. If you want wordplay and puns you go to Jay-Z or Lupe, but if you want great MUSIC and entertaining, funny, and creative lyrics you need a little Kanye in your life. He's really on top of his game production wise. I don't think anyone is at his level right now when it comes to producing, and his writing is really getting better and better.

I've always been a fan, and like a lot of people I wasn't too happy with 808's but after listening again and again I realized it's actually a great album. Different but still really good. I don't think anyone who's a serious fan of music can count Yeezy out. The new album combines everything great he came up with in all his previous records and the result is really a masterpiece. I mean just look at what the critics say, even though I don't decide on what music to listen to based on critics, it's still interesting to see: Metacritic. I think it's the highest or second highest rated album ever. Pretty great stuff.
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Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
November 24 2010 07:23 GMT
#156
Dude 808's took a while to get used to but I loved it after a while man. I don't give a fuck if he uses autotune and all that the songs are all really good.
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
November 24 2010 07:29 GMT
#157
Autotune is all in how you use it. When you use it in every lyric everywhere just to make you sound 'good' (T-Pain) then it's shit, but when you use it creatively and in interesting ways you can really make some amazing music. My favorite example is the Bon Iver song 'Woods'



Funny enough Kanye samples this song in his new album on 'Lost In The World', proving again that the man knows great music! So yeah the fact that he uses autotune in 808's doesn't matter as long as it's used right, and I think it is.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
November 24 2010 07:48 GMT
#158
On November 24 2010 12:44 Microlisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2010 12:31 calcarus wrote:
I hate the way kayne takes a great song, takes the part which everyone knows from that song and then does some shitty rap around it and calls it his own song.

The reason most people like his stuff is because the original songs he 'samples' are great, without them he would be nothing.

couldnt get mroe then afew minutes into this, probably because of my already bias opinion.


Are you one of those 14 year olds who so valiantly defend daft punk. Because I have never heard of anything they ever did before they got sampled.

EDIT: LOL at whitesheep picking Wayne over Kanye


If you're talking about never hearing of Daft Punk before Kanye sampled them, then I say your music knowledge was probably very narrow and limited, in which case that's probably the reason. If you're saying you never heard of them until they were sampled for the first time then ok.
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HyAjO
Profile Joined October 2010
United States51 Posts
November 24 2010 07:49 GMT
#159
calling this a movie is alittle much.. short film or just youtube video suits it more..
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
November 24 2010 08:01 GMT
#160
I just flipped through it and thought "what the fuck?" I'm clearly missing the context because I'm not a fan of Kanye at all, but the whole phoenix girl thing seems pretty weird at a glance...

That said, she's f******ng hot.
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