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The argument that the kids might get (probably) bullied and therefore same-sex marriage should be forbidden is an invalid argument (like all the others). Even without the fact that there are tons of other groups and stuff kids get bullied for, the idea of forbidding someone because they might get bullied for is stupid. That wouldn't be even close to be a liberal country. Imagine a country where everything someone else might not like and say it out loud (I mean, you get bullied therefore it's harm for you and therefore you shouldn't be allowed to do so) is forbidden.
If you want so, you could argue that same-sex couples should think twice about adopting a children because of their narrow-minded, pathetic neighbors when they have the feeling that their new family can't handle it. But that's up to the same-sex couple if they do have that feeling or not. It's nothing you should forbid by law.
It's akin to child abuse. really? first of all, it wouldn't be the parents fault. second they most likely wouldn't get more bullied than any "weird" else. If it really would get that bad that you could call it child abuse you might consider punishing the bully (or their parents if they actually supporting this) but not forbid the same-sex marriage at all.
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On July 15 2010 23:26 D10 wrote:I think its great, sadly I dont see this happening  Anytime soon in Brazil
want to marry anytime
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I love the news that more and more countries are becoming accepting to gays. It's rather heartening.
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Surprised so few argentinians posted here. Huge news. Im a catholic, straight guy, and i am in favor of this new law... However i am worried about adoption. Legally, they can't adopt as a couple, and as stated before, if both step dads (or moms) die, the child will be on the street. They will soon ask for legalized adoption as a couple, and im not sure i endorse that. Im not fully against it, neither. It just feels wrongish.
However, it's a big step. Slowly, we're all accepting we're all the same. The world is a little bit better since yesterday.
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On July 16 2010 23:07 Tresh wrote:
Surprised so few argentinians posted here. Huge news. Im a catholic, straight guy, and i am in favor of this new law... However i am worried about adoption. Legally, they can't adopt as a couple, and as stated before, if both step dads (or moms) die, the child will be on the street. They will soon ask for legalized adoption as a couple, and im not sure i endorse that. Im not fully against it, neither. It just feels wrongish.
However, it's a big step. Slowly, we're all accepting we're all the same. The world is a little bit better since yesterday.
Why are you against adoption of children by gay couples?
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On July 16 2010 23:07 Tresh wrote:
Surprised so few argentinians posted here. Huge news. Im a catholic, straight guy, and i am in favor of this new law... However i am worried about adoption. Legally, they can't adopt as a couple, and as stated before, if both step dads (or moms) die, the child will be on the street. They will soon ask for legalized adoption as a couple, and im not sure i endorse that. Im not fully against it, neither. It just feels wrongish.
Wait, wait. How is this different for when both parents of any child die?
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Well, in argentina gays can get married and in italy they are even forbidden from donating blood, aint that nice, makes you feel real good about your country.
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On July 17 2010 00:33 Bluestar- wrote:
Well, in argentina gays can get married and in italy they are even forbidden from donating blood, aint that nice, makes you feel real good about your country.
I think it was a result of the AIDS epidemic in the 80's and early 90's. Homosexuals were then more likely to have HIV, so they were banned from donating blood. It's the same in the U.S.
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Well probably so, but you see its not fear of HIV or something, even if you do tests and stuff to prove you dont have it, you're still not allowed to because you are gay, for example (this was in the newspaper) this guy was donating blood since he was 8, but when he wrote gay under sexual orientation on the papers they give you to compile, they told him he cant donate anymore.
Also this isnt a law or anything, its just hospital policy.
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Yeah, i was talking about italy.
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Yeah, I remember at a blood drive in high school, my friend (who is gay) was pretty upset at the fact that he wasn't allowed to donate blood for that reason. It never quite made sense to me that it's still banned regardless of HIV testing =/
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On July 17 2010 02:36 Valentine wrote:
Yeah, I remember at a blood drive in high school, my friend (who is gay) was pretty upset at the fact that he wasn't allowed to donate blood for that reason. It never quite made sense to me that it's still banned regardless of HIV testing =/
That is why you lie for that question. They test the blood anyway.
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This is great.
Embrace social progress.
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On July 15 2010 23:29 Cheerio wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2010 22:42 Magic84 wrote:
I don't see the point of this marriage. For me marriage is about making and raising offsprings, two people passing on their bloodline together as nature intended, marriage also ensures protection for mother with kid financially most of the time. Without it you can just as well live together without any official procedures and papers. Show nested quote +Marriage is a social union or legal contract between individuals that creates kinship. It is an institution in which interpersonal relationships, usually intimate and sexual, are acknowledged in a variety of ways, depending on the culture or subculture in which it is found. @ wikipedia See how there is not a single word about children? It is because that is not the most improtant in marriage. You marry when you love someone not when you want to breed with someone.
So all those King and Queens of the past who were married in order to create an heir etc. is what?
Also it is interesting that a country in S. America has more social Freedoms than the U.S.
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Well, thats overdoing it a bit, but thanks (?) :D
On July 16 2010 04:18 Empyrean wrote:
Actually, Argentina is a very well developed country with a large, diversified industrial sector and a high standard of living.
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Don't want to sound like attacking the US or anything, but most s. american countries have more social freedom and are much better at privacy than the US. There's some really BAD ones, but they are only a handfull.
On July 17 2010 07:09 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2010 23:29 Cheerio wrote:On July 15 2010 22:42 Magic84 wrote:
I don't see the point of this marriage. For me marriage is about making and raising offsprings, two people passing on their bloodline together as nature intended, marriage also ensures protection for mother with kid financially most of the time. Without it you can just as well live together without any official procedures and papers. Marriage is a social union or legal contract between individuals that creates kinship. It is an institution in which interpersonal relationships, usually intimate and sexual, are acknowledged in a variety of ways, depending on the culture or subculture in which it is found. @ wikipedia See how there is not a single word about children? It is because that is not the most improtant in marriage. You marry when you love someone not when you want to breed with someone. So all those King and Queens of the past who were married in order to create an heir etc. is what? Also it is interesting that a country in S. America has more social Freedoms than the U.S.
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On July 17 2010 07:10 Coil wrote:Well, thats overdoing it a bit, but thanks (?) :D Show nested quote +On July 16 2010 04:18 Empyrean wrote:
Actually, Argentina is a very well developed country with a large, diversified industrial sector and a high standard of living.
It's actually quite true, especially compared to the rest of the world. The United States may have greater wealth and standard of living, but compared to other questions, Argentina is quite above average in many indicators.
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Portugal and Spain legalized same sex marriage about 1 year ago, hope more countries will join in! Good news for Argentina.
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