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Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11047 Posts
July 01 2010 18:29 GMT
#21
Meh. Inevitable. Media pumped up the paranoia about it. It's still a scary virus, but more because of its potential rather than real potency.

Well I'm vaccinated :D
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
July 01 2010 18:29 GMT
#22
On July 02 2010 03:22 T0fuuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2010 03:05 nitram wrote:
People knew exactly how dangerous this swine flu would be - NOT DANGEROUS AT ALL. Nearly as harmful as the regular flu, pharmaceutical companies advertised the swiner flu with scare tactics to make a ton of money on an unneeded vaccine.

Lol? Thats what ppl said abt bird flu and now look at indonesia. The fatalities are ridiculously high cos of living conditions and the disease is still there and we are just incubating a stronger virus by not fixing it. But no1 batts an eyelid cos news doesnt see it as important.

And yeah i got reccommended to buy the stocks. But i had money in coal instead which worked out better


You realize according to the WHO there's been less than 300 deaths worldwide attributed to bird flu right?
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daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
July 01 2010 18:32 GMT
#23
On July 02 2010 03:08 Coca Cola Classic wrote:
definitely obama's fault. his embracing science and being an intellectual is doing more harm than good for this country. wasting 250million when we're in financial crisis!?!?!


you have a problem with someone embracing science while typing a message from your computer on an internet forum? please go back to whatever cave you came from and never come out
Some eat to remember, some smash to forget. 2009msl.com
Coca Cola Classic
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
266 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 18:35:51
July 01 2010 18:33 GMT
#24
On July 02 2010 03:32 daz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2010 03:08 Coca Cola Classic wrote:
definitely obama's fault. his embracing science and being an intellectual is doing more harm than good for this country. wasting 250million when we're in financial crisis!?!?!


you have a problem with someone embracing science while typing a message from your computer on an internet forum? please go back to whatever cave you came from and never come out


/sarcasm?

edit: my comment was a reflection of what i expect to be hearing over the next few days. I work for US Dept HHS.
안녕하세요~~
daz
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada643 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 18:41:58
July 01 2010 18:36 GMT
#25
Not sarcasm. Do you think God invented computers?

EDIT: Sorry I misunderstood. I thought you were asking if I was being sarcastic. My apologies. Please tell those people at your office to go back to their caves for me.
Some eat to remember, some smash to forget. 2009msl.com
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
July 01 2010 18:41 GMT
#26
Overhyped fake crisis met with proper skepticism, doo dah, doo dah.

That's not to say that there aren't real health problems related to the influenza virus; it's just that the H1N1 swine flu was just blown totally out of proportion. That's $250m that could have been used for something useful, like helping poor people. Just kidding, I meant slaughtering innocent civilians half a world away.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
AeonStrife
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States918 Posts
July 01 2010 18:41 GMT
#27
You'd be surprised how much is spent on the Afghanistan War every day.
Whats worse...US Poltics or SC2 Balance Talks...
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 18:42:37
July 01 2010 18:42 GMT
#28
On July 02 2010 03:24 CharlieMurphy wrote:
fucking joke country we live in. "hey lets make tons of this worthless vaccine because someone told us this new strain of flu is dangerous (even though there are new strains every year)"
but tbh, 260$ mil is nothing for a loss compared to the debt with everything else.

Let's spend 700$ billions on the military, most of which is completely useless... Yeah...

Wish things were handled properly...
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 19:01:28
July 01 2010 18:59 GMT
#29
On July 02 2010 03:41 MangoTango wrote:
Overhyped fake crisis met with proper skepticism, doo dah, doo dah.

That's not to say that there aren't real health problems related to the influenza virus; it's just that the H1N1 swine flu was just blown totally out of proportion. That's $250m that could have been used for something useful, like helping poor people. Just kidding, I meant slaughtering innocent civilians half a world away.


God, tell me about it. What a waste of money and manpower.

No one I know got vaccinated, nor did I hear about anyone I know getting the virus. Only like 8,000 people on Earth have died from it.

More people died from illegal firearms in the US last year than people killed by a "worldwide epidemic", sounds like the nation needs to get its priorities straight.

(edit: grammar mistake)
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
July 01 2010 19:04 GMT
#30
People overreacted like crazy with this, but in the end it's health, so they need to overreact.
Life is Good.
Miss_Cleo
Profile Joined March 2010
United States406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 19:07:01
July 01 2010 19:05 GMT
#31
On July 02 2010 03:08 Coca Cola Classic wrote:
definitely obama's fault. his embracing science and being an intellectual is doing more harm than good for this country. wasting 250million when we're in financial crisis!?!?!



You sir are a deluded man. Wake up, you can't blame everything on one person, and there's more to the story than what they tell.

edit: nvm read your other post, sarcasm is realllly easy to spot on the interweb
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 19:37:37
July 01 2010 19:10 GMT
#32
scare tactics created to have us buying a vaccine that had not even been tested at all on humans.
young ho
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
July 01 2010 19:11 GMT
#33
I don't understand how anybody can complain about this, blaming the US government that it wasted money on "useless vaccines". The US government (just like many other governments around the world) had to buy these vaccines. The public demanded them because everybody was afraid of the swine flu. If you want to blame someone blame the media that reported missleading information and the ignorance of the masses that were too blind/lazy/ignorant to look up some credible information about the swine flu.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 19:19:51
July 01 2010 19:18 GMT
#34
On July 02 2010 03:59 hejakev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 02 2010 03:41 MangoTango wrote:
Overhyped fake crisis met with proper skepticism, doo dah, doo dah.

That's not to say that there aren't real health problems related to the influenza virus; it's just that the H1N1 swine flu was just blown totally out of proportion. That's $250m that could have been used for something useful, like helping poor people. Just kidding, I meant slaughtering innocent civilians half a world away.


God, tell me about it. What a waste of money and manpower.

No one I know got vaccinated, nor did I hear about anyone I know getting the virus. Only like 8,000 people on Earth have died from it.

More people died from illegal firearms in the US last year than people killed by a "worldwide epidemic", sounds like the nation needs to get its priorities straight.

(edit: grammar mistake)

It was arguably an overreaction in order to prevent what was regarded as a possible "pandemic". Naturally it didn't happen but did you see how scared people were. There was this insane girl in school who wore one of those blue masks ALL THE TIME, and this is nothing compared to other places.

On one side, I understand why people regard this as an huge fluke - it appears to be. Millions of dollars to prevent* a crisis that never happened. Now pay attention, the money was spent to -PREVENT- a crisis.

There are two possibilities:
1: It would have died off on its own without the help of the vaccine, probably killing a few more people. (Arguably the likely outcome)
2: It would have mutated and expanded and killed more people. (Unlikely in H1N1)

Basically, we disarmed a bomb not knowing whether or not it was real. If it was a real bomb, it was disarmed and nobody will ever know what could have happened. If it was a fake bomb, we "wasted" that money by being cautious.

When something like this happens, it's in our interest for people to be at least moderately scared so they start practicing basic hygiene and stop sneezing in my face.


Next time a deadly virus pops out, should we wait for it to be dangerous before we start spending money on fixing it, or is it worth it to spend more money in trying to patch it up early even if it may turn out to be useless?

I have a friend in TX who was hospitalized for a while because of this virus. He has a condition, something about his kidneys not working properly I believe. He couldn't get the vaccine because of it. His brother could have used the vaccine. Turns out, his brother got it (pull through easily) and gave it to my friend, who's immune system is garbage. He almost died.

One of the reasons to get the vaccine is to avoid giving the virus to other people.


Either way that's how I feel =)

Cheers.

scare tactics created to have us buying a vaccine that had not even been tested long term.

You don't know how vaccines work x_x
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 19:32:29
July 01 2010 19:21 GMT
#35
Well, the people who manufacture this vaccine work for a business. Businesses aim to make profit. Profit is made by selling as much of their product as possible. Businesses control pretty much every branch of the government, and have a large amount of media influence. Fill in the blanks.


Q: How many people have died from the 2009 swine flu pandemic?


US:
3 March 2010 -- As of 12 February 2010, According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), it is estimated* that since the beginning of the pandemic, the US has had approximately 57 million cases of A-H1N1/09 Pandemic Swine Flu and approximately 11,690 resulting deaths. Based upon this, an estimate of the mortality rate in the US from the pandemic is 0.02%.

In comparison, the CDC and World Health Organization (WHO) have estimated that with seasonal flu, "we see over 30 million cases in the United States. We see 200,000 hospitalizations and, on average, 36,000 deaths." (During the entire fall and winter flu season.) Based upon this, the average mortality rate of seasonal flu in the US would be 0.12 %.



answers.com

so, maybe it was highly contagious. but how dangerous was it actually? how did the media portray it?



But, despite this - I will say there is much greater corruption and much worse things to be upset about.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
July 01 2010 19:34 GMT
#36
On July 02 2010 04:04 Alou wrote:
People overreacted like crazy with this, but in the end it's health, so they need to overreact.


just not to the point of getting a heart attack or stroke
GoodCat1
Profile Joined May 2009
Israel266 Posts
July 01 2010 20:14 GMT
#37
This money could go ito SC2 development
ZerO FAN~!~!~!
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
July 01 2010 20:18 GMT
#38
Better safe than sorry.
If swine flu was actually very lethal I think this would not have been enough.
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
July 01 2010 20:20 GMT
#39
On July 02 2010 03:24 Holcan wrote:
North American Governments, systematically exploiting tax payers dollars to line the inside of private investors pockets since 1776.

Chupacabra(UCSD)
Profile Joined December 2009
Mexico225 Posts
July 01 2010 20:22 GMT
#40
I had actually had some friends from the U.S. that refused to come to Mexico with me during Spring Break cause they were afraid of catching SWINE "GASP!"

The friends that did come ended up having the time of their lives and endearingly named the trip "Swine Time 09" haha.

You know Korea stopped buying pork from Mexico cause of this??? FREAKING PORK
Poor Mexican business men... :'(

Never pass up a good thing.
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