Japanese rightist attacked China's embassy - Page 11

On April 23 2004 14:39 DV8 wrote:
I thought you were christian or is that just a selective thing? I think who should be allowed to live is not for you to decide I for one agree with original logic in that hate breeds hate and the way to peace is love my friend. Remember if everyone followed the philosophy of love your enemy than there would be no enemies.

On April 23 2004 14:55 FreeZEternal wrote:

PLz, if you don't know anything about this, don't post comments that do not make sense. You country have never been in this situation. Has germany tried to change history over what happened in ww2 in Britain? NO? Also, this is the difference of our cultures. You have been influenced by the media over there, so I did over here. This is the opinion of the majority in korea. This is the difference between eu and asia.We look things at a different angle. SO stop saying this is crap and that is crap. I think you should think about what you have said.

On April 23 2004 08:35 longer_23 wrote:
That's right but the sad fact is most young kids in china today still buy into Japanese pop culture. coz we dont have a thriving pop culture of our own.

On April 23 2004 11:19 OriginalLogic wrote:
Ok, big post. Like I said before, and as Agony has been continuing, your hatred for the Japanese is, most likely, based on false findings and information.

It's much like racial bigotry. Those educated in a society see past these kinds of things and accept people for who they are, not where they come from or what they look like. When you kids grow up, you'll figure this out. Although...some kids never grow up.

I don't care if you say: "You will never understand the Korean issues" because, guess what, that's bullshit. I can see from all the things that you type that you make blatantly incorrect assumptions from things you hear or read in your own media. Find me a Japanese historical textbook, used in Japanese schools, that completely ignores the Nanjing China incident. You won't find one. That happened in the eighties IN CHINA, when Japanese politicians controlled things. It's not happening today.

As an American, I'm told constantly that I "don't know what I'm talking about" and am "uneducated" simply because I'm an American. I understand where this stereotype comes from...there are a lot of stupid people in America that have internet access. So, this gives me the unique perspective to compare the stereotypical American forum posts, that every foreigner loves to hate, with the recent posts that you have included here, "we want peace." Your posts have shown me that you have not actually researched the subject you're trying to argue, nor do you have any real factual information to back up your argument.

Key Point: Don't make arguments based on "how you feel." You DO NOT have the right to infringe upon others because you feel that the Japanese owe you an apology. Hell, my father was killed by a police car that forgot to turn on his siren and went blaring through an intersection, but I'm not even going to get an apology for something that personal. You don't need one for war attrocities that happened to people 67 years ago. They lost the war and had the shit kicked out of them and are embarassed for what they've done. Not to mention, not very much was even known about Unit 731 (responsible for Nanjing) until the 1970's. The politicians of the era following the many discoveries involving 731 are those that attempted to change texts and alter history.

Finally, the mentality of the Japanese during this era was one that, similar to the ideas of some conquests during the European medeival era, was one of spreading their respective gene pool into other areas of the world. You need to keep in mind that the leaders responsible for these ideas that lead to attrocities were KILLED for their crimes. I understand that no real apology was given by the Japanese government for Nanjing, but those war crimes were a response to similar occurences to Japanese people living in China pre-WW2 (i.e. Japanese were raped/killed by Chinese). That doesn't make it right, but you need to just end the judgment and just drop the situation or it will never go away. You're just beating a dead horse.

And, "we want peace," don't bother responding to my post. You don't have a firm enough grasp on English to understand what I'm typing, as is apparent in your previous posts, nor do you have any actual idea of how to form a convincing/proper argument. Hint: Peace does not include retaliation of any kind towards another country, simply because a radical, that happens to be of Japanese decent, bombed people in your country. That's the most illogical contradiction I have ever read.

I'll probably think of more things...you Chinese/Korean haters can post more stuff and I might respond, but you'll probably just spew more unjustified forms of hatred/bigotry towards the Japanese because of your uneducated assumptions. But..eh, I'll probably still reply to your jabber.

On April 23 2004 11:58 threshy wrote:
How can anyone ever justify bigotry on that scale?

Why would anyone assume that asian people are inherently more informed about this?

Why are individuals responsible for the confused actions of their forebears?

Why is every evil ever committed by China/Korea/Name Your Country suddenly no longer relevant?

Ask yourselves, you agitators, what good can possibly come of holding grudges against people for things that were and are completely out of their control? The issue of the textbooks is a minor one--everyone knows what the Japanese did. The real issue, the real danger, is the hatred people like "we want peace" are showing here. What kind of peace incorporates vengeance? You act as though you would lose your enmity towards the Japanese via a single feeble apology and some revisions of their textbooks. I call 100% bullshit on you, because your condemnations of the Japanese clearly run thicker than that, judging from the wide range of passionately employed racial slurs being bandied about right here on this forum.

Never thought I'd agree with one of these pompous O-Logic pricks, but this one happens to be dead right. Take a look at yourselves, you animals.