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condoriano
United States826 Posts
On May 05 2010 10:39 Biochemist wrote: The argument is that more gets lost than gets absorbed. Thanks for the PM, i think he probably doesn't lose any? If he spends his time meditating he is basically sitting in 1 spot not moving around. He doesn't sweat, he doesn't waste energy. | ||
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Biochemist
United States1008 Posts
On May 05 2010 10:46 condoriano wrote: Thanks for the PM, i think he probably doesn't lose any? If he spends his time meditating he is basically sitting in 1 spot not moving around. He doesn't sweat, he doesn't waste energy. That's probably something that the doctors are testing: Can he go so long without water because he's sitting in a cool, moist environment or because he doesn't have properly functioning sweat glands or some other physiological difference. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On May 05 2010 10:46 condoriano wrote: Thanks for the PM, i think he probably doesn't lose any? If he spends his time meditating he is basically sitting in 1 spot not moving around. He doesn't sweat, he doesn't waste energy. Water is still lost during other biological processes. Even if you aren't moving or sweating, you are still using energy. Your heart is beating. Your blood vessels contract and expand. Your diaphragm moves to fill your air with lungs. The brain absorbs oxygen from the blood. And so on. Meditation does not stop basic biological processes from happening | ||
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condoriano
United States826 Posts
On May 05 2010 10:57 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: Water is still lost during other biological processes. Even if you aren't moving or sweating, you are still using energy. Your heart is beating. Your blood vessels contract and expand. Your diaphragm moves to fill your air with lungs. The brain absorbs oxygen from the blood. And so on. Meditation does not stop basic biological processes from happening Imagine his heart rate is 10? And his diaphragm contracts once a minute? Or once in five minutes? All of that was done before, even full absence of a heart rate. In a way meditation gives them the ability to influence those processes, question is - is that enough to survive off just air, moisture and sun. | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On May 05 2010 11:04 condoriano wrote: Imagine his heart rate is 10? And his diaphragm contracts once a minute? Or once in five minutes? All of that was done before, even full absence of a heart rate. In a way meditation gives them the ability to influence those processes, question is - is that enough to survive off just air, moisture and sun. If that guy could stay 70 years breathing only once in 5 minutes, we would have heard about it earlier. | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
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Harlem
United States50 Posts
On May 05 2010 11:13 ShaperofDreams wrote: Rather or not this is true if he actually has done this just for ten days already then holy crap he has to have SOMETHING going on. Basic physics will allow him 10 days. Physics also say's any more then a few weeks and hes dead. I'm calling bs. | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On May 05 2010 11:21 Harlem wrote: physics is an economic conspiracy.Basic physics will allow him 10 days. Physics also say's any more then a few weeks and hes dead. I'm calling bs. | ||
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Wr3k
Canada2533 Posts
On May 05 2010 10:46 condoriano wrote: Thanks for the PM, i think he probably doesn't lose any? If he spends his time meditating he is basically sitting in 1 spot not moving around. He doesn't sweat, he doesn't waste energy. Breathing causes a massive loss in moisture. There is simply no way someone can continue to live without eating or drinking unless they are capable of halting every chemical process in their own body, which in itself is impossible. I'm sure meditation could potentially increase the duration of time which you could live without food or water, but 70 years is a load of shit by all standards. | ||
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gds
Iceland1391 Posts
70 years without eating/drinking is bs or not? ... | ||
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HowitZer
United States1610 Posts
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Brett
Australia3823 Posts
I know nothing about the possibilities of this, but my general sense is to think BS.. | ||
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Sharkified
Canada254 Posts
On May 05 2010 11:34 HowitZer wrote: Our best fuel is oxygen and energy from the universe. The notion of eating food all day is a creation of society. This is true, cats' societies also created the notion of eating food. They need to get lolcat out and make sure meditationcat makes it to president. | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
On May 05 2010 11:21 Harlem wrote: Basic physics will allow him 10 days. Physics also say's any more then a few weeks and hes dead. I'm calling bs. ten days without water? (now...12 days right?) Really? i thought people die after like 4 days without water | ||
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condoriano
United States826 Posts
On May 05 2010 11:25 Wr3k wrote: Breathing causes a massive loss in moisture. There is simply no way someone can continue to live without eating or drinking unless they are capable of halting every chemical process in their own body, which in itself is impossible. I'm sure meditation could potentially increase the duration of time which you could live without food or water, but 70 years is a load of shit by all standards. I never said 70 year term is true, he could have lived in his own "imaginary world" for a long time, the only thing we know is that he has gone a few weeks already without food or water and I was simply trying to give a possible explanation to this. If he lived in this state for some years it is exceptional enough, no need to bring up "redefine the science" argument. 3-4 weeks without food or water should do enough to prove that science is far from understanding the processes happening in his body. | ||
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MrBob
93 Posts
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CKSide
United States223 Posts
A couple weeks? months? years? So far he's gone furtherer than the average person... and how many more days before it's world record or something? | ||
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Warrior Madness
Canada3791 Posts
Brooks's "institute", in the past, charged varying fees to prospective clients who wished to learn how to live without food, which ranged from US$15 million to US$25 million. A payment plan was also offered.[22] These charges have historically been presented as limited time offers exclusively for billionaires.[23][24] New lower fees have been set to US$100,000 with an initial deposit of US$10,000.[1] GOAT troll? | ||
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condoriano
United States826 Posts
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HowitZer
United States1610 Posts
On May 05 2010 11:40 Sharkified wrote: This is true, cats' societies also created the notion of eating food. They need to get lolcat out and make sure meditationcat makes it to president. My poor cat... She started out full of energy doing matrix moves off the couch and then got fed a steady diet of mush and became one sorry animal. Do you know how animals get domesticated? All it takes is feeding generation after generation a diet of laboratory chow to destroy their genes making them pathetic beggars. Dogs are domesticated wolves. We have become domesticated. That's why the sperm counts are down and we have all sorts of chronic problems and deformities(crooked teeth for example). Thankfully people are figuring this out and going away from eating cooked denatured poison all the time. | ||
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