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Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 03:03:19
May 05 2010 03:01 GMT
#381
Many animals can survive years without food or water through hibernation. It's possible that this guy has been able to use meditation slow his movement and heart rate down to an extent where he can live off very, very little energy. The warm conditions of India mean he probably wouldn't need to use much energy for heat and there's enough moisture in the air that he's getting enough water just through breathing in and swallowing moisture from the atmosphere, remember without physical exertion the need to sweat is significantly reduced, as the body has no need to cool down - the friction of moving around and using muscles is what causes body heat to build up and sweat is how we cool down.

That said, it won't last forever and he's going to have to eat some time. I'd be really impressed if they dumped him in Russia or somewhere cold and he was still able to go 10 days without food. Also the 70 years is definitely bullshit.

Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
May 05 2010 03:07 GMT
#382
He must be really bored...
Flash, Stats, Reach, Tossgirl <> Boxer, Nestea, MC, Foxer fangirl | http://osu.ppy.sh/u/181432
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
May 05 2010 03:25 GMT
#383
You've got to respect the man either way. Either he has reached such a high level of spiritual advancement that he is nearly divine, or he is a scam artist with pretty big balls.
Do you really want chat rooms?
marcoso *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil818 Posts
May 05 2010 03:45 GMT
#384
Is he the Libra Gold Saint?

On May 05 2010 12:01 Wargizmo wrote:
Many animals can survive years without food or water through hibernation. It's possible that this guy has been able to use meditation slow his movement and heart rate down to an extent where he can live off very, very little energy. The warm conditions of India mean he probably wouldn't need to use much energy for heat and there's enough moisture in the air that he's getting enough water just through breathing in and swallowing moisture from the atmosphere, remember without physical exertion the need to sweat is significantly reduced, as the body has no need to cool down - the friction of moving around and using muscles is what causes body heat to build up and sweat is how we cool down.

That said, it won't last forever and he's going to have to eat some time. I'd be really impressed if they dumped him in Russia or somewhere cold and he was still able to go 10 days without food. Also the 70 years is definitely bullshit.



Do you seriously believe in all you said?
PeT[uK]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 03:58:06
May 05 2010 03:56 GMT
#385
lmfao the comment and response above me

also, this indian guy's breath must STINK. no mints, no gum, no food to wash away morning breath. i wonder if he brushes his teeth cause i swallow a little bit every now and again...

And how do you go 70 years without the temptation to just stuff down some calories..
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Yokoblue
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada594 Posts
May 05 2010 05:39 GMT
#386
On May 05 2010 12:25 fight_or_flight wrote:
You've got to respect the man either way. Either he has reached such a high level of spiritual advancement that he is nearly divine, or he is a scam artist with pretty big balls.


That made me laugh really hard and its true.

lmfao the comment and response above me

also, this indian guy's breath must STINK. no mints, no gum, no food to wash away morning breath. i wonder if he brushes his teeth cause i swallow a little bit every now and again...


... If you dont eat you wont have to diggest things while you're sleeping right... so no morning breath or anything of the sort am I right ?
Master League playing Protoss and Zerg
LightRailCoyote
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States982 Posts
May 05 2010 05:46 GMT
#387
S Club (there ain't no diet like an S Club diet)
Gonna show you how (everybody just starve tonight)
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condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 06:02:54
May 05 2010 05:55 GMT
#388
People who fast will gradually lose odor coming out of their mouth. That ammonia smell only appears in the beginning. After a few days your tongue will start to clean up and slowly will turn pink (basically its healthy color). Bad breath that people have at the beginning comes from the products of breakdown of fats entering the blood stream (all the shit that people live with not knowing it's there).

It's actually possible that he doesn't have teeth, I'm not sure on that one.
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
May 05 2010 05:55 GMT
#389
this is what future death row in India is gonna be like.

"here is the meditation book use it or lose it."
ktp
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States797 Posts
May 05 2010 05:59 GMT
#390
Lets say the doctors observer him for 30 days and find that he has not eaten to drink anything and is still alive. Are the nonbelievers going to believe all of the a sudden? Probably not.

The odds of this being real is very low, that is for sure. Most people need water and food to survive. But could it happen? Yes it is possible that this person transcended into some high level spiritual human that does not need to meet any of his biological needs. Meditation does some crazy shit and perhaps this is the case.

I don't think this is a case of whether you believe this is real or not. Its about witness something really exordinary. Imagine all the money he saved on food. He probably doesnt even need to save money either.
McCain
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States187 Posts
May 05 2010 06:02 GMT
#391
On May 05 2010 14:59 ktp wrote:
Lets say the doctors observer him for 30 days and find that he has not eaten to drink anything and is still alive. Are the nonbelievers going to believe all of the a sudden? Probably not.


I'd believe it if he managed 30 days. That's way longer than what should be possible.
StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
May 05 2010 06:03 GMT
#392
crazy shit
InfoDav
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada46 Posts
May 05 2010 06:09 GMT
#393
On May 05 2010 11:04 condoriano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 10:57 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Water is still lost during other biological processes. Even if you aren't moving or sweating, you are still using energy. Your heart is beating. Your blood vessels contract and expand. Your diaphragm moves to fill your air with lungs. The brain absorbs oxygen from the blood. And so on. Meditation
does not stop basic biological processes from happening


Imagine his heart rate is 10?


The lowest recorded resting heart rate from an healthy individual is 28 from a cyclist. I'm pretty sure you can't get under 20 without serious problems.
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 06:28:02
May 05 2010 06:22 GMT
#394
On May 05 2010 15:09 InfoDav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 11:04 condoriano wrote:
On May 05 2010 10:57 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Water is still lost during other biological processes. Even if you aren't moving or sweating, you are still using energy. Your heart is beating. Your blood vessels contract and expand. Your diaphragm moves to fill your air with lungs. The brain absorbs oxygen from the blood. And so on. Meditation
does not stop basic biological processes from happening


Imagine his heart rate is 10?


The lowest recorded resting heart rate from an healthy individual is 28 from a cyclist. I'm pretty sure you can't get under 20 without serious problems.


? Was done multiple times? Also most people are "pretty sure" you can't live without food or water for 2 weeks.

Your example is a cyclist. His heart muscle and arteries adapted to exercise, changed size and shape and his resting rate dropped to 28. Here you have a human being that doesn't work out or move around at all. It's a completely different mechanism. When you don't eat for weeks your heart rate drops because of your metabolism slowing down. Also, meditation allows some practitioners to control their own heart rate. Not like this was discovered 2 weeks ago.
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
marcoso *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil818 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 06:54:01
May 05 2010 06:47 GMT
#395
There's actually people considering living 70 years without eating and drinking a possibility? duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude is this the High thread?

I can't take it anymore... I'm feeling guilty already...

On May 05 2010 14:59 ktp wrote:
Lets say the doctors observer him for 30 days and find that he has not eaten to drink anything and is still alive. Are the nonbelievers going to believe all of the a sudden? Probably not.

The odds of this being real is very low, that is for sure. Most people need water and food to survive. But could it happen? Yes it is possible that this person transcended into some high level spiritual human that does not need to meet any of his biological needs. Meditation does some crazy shit and perhaps this is the case.

I don't think this is a case of whether you believe this is real or not. Its about witness something really exordinary. Imagine all the money he saved on food. He probably doesnt even need to save money either.


LOOOOOL saving money this way is funny "After 70 years saving money.. finally got my own mountain"
not like he's got any money to save either LOL
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 06:53:50
May 05 2010 06:51 GMT
#396
The News just came in, the guy who claimed he could live without food or water has died from starvation and extreme dehydration!
Wishing you well.
LaughingTulkas
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1107 Posts
May 05 2010 06:52 GMT
#397
You shouldn't be able to be a materialist and believe in magic at the same time. This thread takes post-modern crap philosophy to new heights. If you believe in spirits, fine, some sort of angel or demon did this to him. If you believe there is only the physical world, fine, it's a hoax. But you shouldn't be able to believe both.
"I love noobies, they're so happy." -Chill
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
May 05 2010 06:57 GMT
#398
On May 05 2010 15:52 LaughingTulkas wrote:
You shouldn't be able to be a materialist and believe in magic at the same time. This thread takes post-modern crap philosophy to new heights. If you believe in spirits, fine, some sort of angel or demon did this to him. If you believe there is only the physical world, fine, it's a hoax. But you shouldn't be able to believe both.




how about i believe there is only a physical world and i also believe that humans don't know nearly as much about it as they like to pretend.
tinman
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 07:07:42
May 05 2010 07:07 GMT
#399
and you think they're ignorance on the subject is so thorough that they missed their guess on how long a person can live without water by about 69 years, 11 months, and 2 weeks?
"Politics is an extravagance, an extravagance about grievances. And poetry is an extravagance about grief. And grievances are something that can be remedied, and griefs are irremediable."
agen
Profile Joined October 2008
Barbados111 Posts
May 05 2010 08:09 GMT
#400
On May 05 2010 07:42 Fontong wrote:
^^Actually I'm pretty sure he is being serious, considering what he posted in the linked thread.

That's the sad part.

I dunno, it's a commercial featuring a man who says our hair is made out of metal. Crazy beliefs usually follow indoctrination into personality cults, or at least some form of social group, but not after viewing commercials. Unless he made a really, really convincing argument for metal hair, of course.

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