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Profile Joined December 2009
United States119 Posts
May 05 2010 17:45 GMT
#441
i like food and water and umm not meditating
condoriano
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
May 05 2010 17:48 GMT
#442
On May 06 2010 02:43 Judicator wrote:
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On May 06 2010 02:41 condoriano wrote:
I'm not on a mission here, I just hope some people will open their eyes and at the very least learn a few things about fasting and the abilities of a human body, because to me it was basic knowledge since childhood.


This isn't fasting, this is I survived for 70 years on meditation. How many of you would actually believe the guy if he said I survived for 70 years on sitting instead of meditation?


Yeah I addressed this before, even if he's done this for a year but became delusional and imagined it was happening since he was 13 it is still shocking. He definitely was doing it for longer than 2 weeks because he doesn't defecate which is still observed if you dry fast for 14 days. A lot will be established during this experiment, I am curious to see what happens.
Ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?
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Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 17:54:32
May 05 2010 17:53 GMT
#443
On May 06 2010 02:29 condoriano wrote:
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On May 05 2010 17:52 T-P-S wrote:
Okay. You've made these claims several times throughout the thread. Do you have any legitimate evidence to substantiate any of these events in which basic human biology was thwarted? All we have so far is your anecdotes. "I've read about this", "Many people have done this" and "My father did this" are probably not sufficient if your aim is actually convincing anyone.


You will find 1000s of stories about water fasting, it's really common. Here's a page out of a book written by an actual doctor:

Isabelle-A-Moser

56 days with no food, just water. This should already thwart basic human biology.

14 day "dry" fasting is somewhat rare, you can still find many notes and stories about it. I know all of this firsthand from observing my dad and the amazing things that happened to him while he was doing that (he only went for 7-9 days though). For instance, he was able to do a full split after a few fasting experiments and he was not even remotely flexible before. All the deposits in his joints were gone. His appearance changed, he looked years younger. I'll provide a couple of links here, most of my knowledge came from reading books but you can easily find this online too:

10-14 day dry fast

11 day dry fast

14 day dry fast experience

Wrap your mind around this, don't ever dismiss things because biology 101 says it's impossible



There are numerous fastings for much longer than this.

It's interesting to note that forced fastings almost never go well, they lead to sickness torment and death.

However, voluntary fastings tend to go quite well. At least comparitively.

(My sister had some book all about fasting and notable fastings, it was quite interesting)
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
May 05 2010 17:59 GMT
#444
It says that he lived for 70 years without eating or drinking anything, but as far as I can tell if you never eat, drink, or do any sort of activity, you aren't really living at all.
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Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 18:19:10
May 05 2010 18:18 GMT
#445
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Gluttony calls BS and so do I.
hixhix
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1156 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 18:20:47
May 05 2010 18:20 GMT
#446
On May 06 2010 02:59 bITt.mAN wrote:
It says that he lived for 70 years without eating or drinking anything, but as far as I can tell if you never eat, drink, or do any sort of activity, you aren't really living at all.


That's your own definition of living, nothing added to the discussion here.
MasterFischer
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark836 Posts
May 05 2010 18:24 GMT
#447
Bullshit story of the century.
WHO is this who speaks to me as though I needed his advice?
Glowy
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden66 Posts
May 05 2010 19:40 GMT
#448
On May 06 2010 00:36 L_Master wrote:
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The human body in rest requires about 2000 kcal a day which equals to about 40 kg of ATP which is body's energy molecule among a few others.


Did you mean to say kg? 40 kg would be an incredible amount of ATP.



Yes, the human body consumes about 40 kg of ATP over a 24 hour time period.

Altough the ATP is not reformed completly the ADP and the Phosphate is recycled to a new ATP molecule, but this process requires energy aswell.

The net gain in glycolysis is 2 ATP, and the net gain for the citric acid cycle after oxidative phosphorylation is about 28 ATP. For an example the glycolysis requires 2 ATP to yeild 4. If you have no energy you can't make up the ATP needed.
Death is certain, life is not.
EndlessRain
Profile Joined July 2009
140 Posts
May 05 2010 22:12 GMT
#449
If there are people who actually believe this guy, I feel sorry for you.
iheartkorea
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-06 05:50:13
May 06 2010 05:49 GMT
#450
ye i dont believe this for a second <.<
edit: removed the 'lol', theres nothing funny about this thread, just sad
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Yokoblue
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada594 Posts
May 06 2010 08:28 GMT
#451
Any update on the man ?
Master League playing Protoss and Zerg
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
May 06 2010 08:29 GMT
#452
Post again in a few weeks when the test is over.
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