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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
April 17 2010 01:28 GMT
#1
On sale at newegg for 29.99

Enter promo code EMCYRZT43 for additional -10$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823224001

I decided to finally replace my shitty flat laptop style keyboard with something more durable and sturdy. Never had a mechanical keyboard before either, so gonna see what's what.

Impulse buy, but hey for $20 can you really go wrong?
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
April 17 2010 02:06 GMT
#2
What's the advantage of having a mechanical keyboard? I've only noticed that they are really loud
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Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
April 17 2010 02:09 GMT
#3
... What IS a mechanical keyboard?
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Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
April 17 2010 02:11 GMT
#4
On April 17 2010 11:09 Ftrunkz wrote:
... What IS a mechanical keyboard?

On April 17 2010 11:06 starfries wrote:
What's the advantage of having a mechanical keyboard? I've only noticed that they are really loud

That's basically it. They have higher quality keys with better tactile feedback than the usual membrane based keyboards you would find for $5 in a local electronics store.
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mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
April 17 2010 02:12 GMT
#5
spring loaded keys. supposed to be good for typing but i cant imagine it being good for gaming.
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
April 17 2010 02:27 GMT
#6
On April 17 2010 11:09 Ftrunkz wrote:
... What IS a mechanical keyboard?

why don't you google what it is.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
April 17 2010 02:29 GMT
#7
Hm I kinda want it too
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SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 02:33:47
April 17 2010 02:33 GMT
#8
On April 17 2010 11:09 Ftrunkz wrote:
... What IS a mechanical keyboard?

Unlike most keyboards which can be bought at barracks, these are only available once you have built a factory with attached tech lab. It is here that you can research durability and tactile feel.
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
April 17 2010 02:33 GMT
#9
I've tried using my friends expensive mechanical keyboard for SC and it is TERRIBLE. Its not bad for typing but you have to press the keys much further and harder which isnt what you want for a game like SC.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
April 17 2010 02:36 GMT
#10
I'll try anything over this damn macbook keyboard ><
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Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
April 17 2010 02:37 GMT
#11
What kind of switches does the DT-35 use?
>currently on Unicomp IBM Model M remake, but it's not really portable (PS/2) so I am looking for a portable backup (either ABS M1 or DT-35)
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Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-17 02:55:48
April 17 2010 02:44 GMT
#12
On April 17 2010 11:37 Loser777 wrote:
What kind of switches does the DT-35 use?
>currently on Unicomp IBM Model M remake, but it's not really portable (PS/2) so I am looking for a portable backup (either ABS M1 or DT-35)

plastic membranes

anyway, thanks a lot OP! I said in another thread that I'd buy a mechanical keyboard if I found one for $20 Just ordered for ~$21.50 !

mechanical keyboards usually go for $50-$100+
wonkman
Profile Joined March 2008
United States520 Posts
April 17 2010 02:44 GMT
#13
I have this keyboard.. it is very sturdy and nice to use ^.^ feels like the keys will never ever break :O

But for gaming use like sc.. well.. keys do take a bit longer to press and are a bit firmer to push down than a cheapo keyboard but its really nice ^.^
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
April 17 2010 02:52 GMT
#14
You can always sell this to a friend for the same $20 or maybe 15.

That's what I did with the extra Salmosas when they were 13.37 on Woot, sold one, gave away the other, using the 3rd.

you have to press the keys much further and harder which isnt what you want for a game like SC.


How much harder? I'd think people press hard enough when they are agitated and excited such as when playing SC.



Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
April 17 2010 03:02 GMT
#15
On April 17 2010 11:52 Sadistx wrote:
You can always sell this to a friend for the same $20 or maybe 15.

That's what I did with the extra Salmosas when they were 13.37 on Woot, sold one, gave away the other, using the 3rd.

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you have to press the keys much further and harder which isnt what you want for a game like SC.


How much harder? I'd think people press hard enough when they are agitated and excited such as when playing SC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3vHVkRWBtw



for some reason the constant loud clicking noises sounded really annoying. I'll stick with my G15 till I can order the samsung one
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
April 17 2010 03:24 GMT
#16
lol g15 isnt that great in terms of noise lol at least the original one i have
xmShake
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1100 Posts
April 17 2010 03:28 GMT
#17
This is an amazing deal for an awesome gaming keyboard. Everybody should go out and take advantage of this deal if you live in the US.

For those who do not know the awesomeness of a mechanical keyboard.
http://www.overclock.net/computer-peripherals/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html
On April 17 2010 12:02 Whiplash wrote:
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On April 17 2010 11:52 Sadistx wrote:
You can always sell this to a friend for the same $20 or maybe 15.

That's what I did with the extra Salmosas when they were 13.37 on Woot, sold one, gave away the other, using the 3rd.

you have to press the keys much further and harder which isnt what you want for a game like SC.


How much harder? I'd think people press hard enough when they are agitated and excited such as when playing SC.


for some reason the constant loud clicking noises sounded really annoying. I'll stick with my G15 till I can order the samsung one

If you don't like the noises then mech keyboards aren't for you. Pretty much every design features loud clicking noises (although the switch type determines how loud it is and what sound it makes).

As for the clicking further, you already have to bottom out your keys whenever you use a regular membrane keyboard so that statement is false. Pressing harder is true though, these things are similar in actuation force to buckling springs. This particular model uses black alps copy switches btw
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
April 17 2010 04:28 GMT
#18
yep I'm pretty glad I didn't buy this keyboard for $50 + $8 shipping the past week that I've been gawking at it rofl

thanks op!
verteqz
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada89 Posts
April 17 2010 04:31 GMT
#19
This is a sick deal and would definitely outperform that DT-35 everyone seems to be raving about.
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
April 17 2010 04:33 GMT
#20
On April 17 2010 11:33 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I've tried using my friends expensive mechanical keyboard for SC and it is TERRIBLE. Its not bad for typing but you have to press the keys much further and harder which isnt what you want for a game like SC.


It depends on the type of switches he has. He probably has black cherry switches.

However, it shouldn't require you to push the key down farther to make the keystroke register. Mechanical keyboards shouldn't even have to be depressed 1/2 way to make the keystroke. That doesn't make sense at all.
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tru_power22
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada385 Posts
April 17 2010 04:38 GMT
#21
On April 17 2010 11:33 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 11:09 Ftrunkz wrote:
... What IS a mechanical keyboard?

Unlike most keyboards which can be bought at barracks, these are only available once you have built a factory with attached tech lab. It is here that you can research durability and tactile feel.


/Thread

Hm... For 30 bucks, I may check this out.

My friend has one - he really likes it. Kind of sounds like a jackhammer though.
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verteqz
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada89 Posts
April 17 2010 04:40 GMT
#22
On April 17 2010 13:33 Bosu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 11:33 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I've tried using my friends expensive mechanical keyboard for SC and it is TERRIBLE. Its not bad for typing but you have to press the keys much further and harder which isnt what you want for a game like SC.


It depends on the type of switches he has. He probably has black cherry switches.

However, it shouldn't require you to push the key down farther to make the keystroke register. Mechanical keyboards shouldn't even have to be depressed 1/2 way to make the keystroke. That doesn't make sense at all.


Black cherries don't require toooo much strength, I think 60 grams of force. I think Husky might be talking about really old school switches.

Btw, the black alps the M1 uses are tactile no click, so it is not as noisy as cherry blues.
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darkponcho
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States262 Posts
April 17 2010 04:41 GMT
#23
how long does this deal last? I'm pondering ><
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Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
April 17 2010 04:42 GMT
#24
Thanks for the heads up on this, just ordered it. Had been looking for a new keyboard for a while and this one didn't look too bad but I didn't want to drop the money for its regular price, so this was a nice surprise.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
April 17 2010 04:50 GMT
#25
this looks exactly like a steelseries 6g except $100 cheaper

;d
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eborp
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States266 Posts
April 17 2010 06:54 GMT
#26
On April 17 2010 13:50 GTR wrote:
this looks exactly like a steelseries 6g except $100 cheaper

;d

Quite possibly.

I bit. Good keyboard for a good price.
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verteqz
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada89 Posts
April 17 2010 06:59 GMT
#27
On April 17 2010 13:50 GTR wrote:
this looks exactly like a steelseries 6g except $100 cheaper

;d


A lot of people use Costar's OEM boards. You'll notice the ABS being similar to Filco keyboards as well:

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards
// verteqz.com
StormSnarlX
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States278 Posts
April 17 2010 07:10 GMT
#28
Thanks OP!!!! Been wanting one for a long time now and for this price, I finally bite. ^__^
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prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
April 17 2010 07:15 GMT
#29
...FUCK!
i literally bought one of these last week for $69.99 with shipping (i think it was $69.99... total was 82.xx cad )

-------_________------------


at any rate
this keyboard is incredibly awesome
and i don't know about you guys, but i CAN NOT STAND the tiny backspace key on the DT-35
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blabber
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4448 Posts
April 17 2010 07:19 GMT
#30
WARNING!!

you may want to read through this if you are considering buying this keyboard
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:7122

possible problems with typos if you type too fast (>120 wpm)
blabberrrrr
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
April 17 2010 07:24 GMT
#31
lol How many characters is 120 wpm ?
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
April 17 2010 07:25 GMT
#32
usually x5
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boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
April 17 2010 07:48 GMT
#33
--- Nuked ---
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 17 2010 08:14 GMT
#34
I got one to go with my logitech optical mini

I cant fail at SC now!
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zee
Profile Joined January 2010
201 Posts
April 17 2010 08:43 GMT
#35
I think mechanical keyboards are good for FPS, because i remember seeing that a lot of CS progamers use the mechanical steelseries keyboard. I can imagine its good for RTS as well.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 17 2010 11:48 GMT
#36
On April 17 2010 16:19 blabber wrote:
WARNING!!

you may want to read through this if you are considering buying this keyboard
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:7122

possible problems with typos if you type too fast (>120 wpm)

typos are nothing to be afraid of. if anything they make you more like day9.
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MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
April 19 2010 02:36 GMT
#37
On April 17 2010 13:50 GTR wrote:
this looks exactly like a steelseries 6g except $100 cheaper

;d

no n-key rollover. which doesn't matter too much for starcraft and you probably don't care about. but yeah, good way to get a "filco" on the cheap
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
April 19 2010 02:51 GMT
#38
Can someone who has both this and the steel series 6g/7g compare them?
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17440 Posts
April 19 2010 02:53 GMT
#39
Heh, I just wish some of my old mechanical keyboards would still fit the computers
I really detest the Windows and Print keys...
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Cube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada777 Posts
April 19 2010 02:54 GMT
#40
it costs $70 if you live in canada.... RRRAAGGEE.
leMaj24
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States262 Posts
April 19 2010 02:56 GMT
#41
i have this keyboard and it's awesome. it's the same thing as steelseries 7g/6g except it's a bit louder... this is a great keyboard if the people around you won't mind the noise PPPP
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
April 19 2010 03:06 GMT
#42
just ordered one :D
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Ranix
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States666 Posts
April 19 2010 03:10 GMT
#43
May order one.. right now just using the Asus laptop keys for SCII- kinda noticeable because sometimes they dont even respond to the press..
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Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
April 19 2010 03:12 GMT
#44
booo USA
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Amazn
Profile Joined March 2010
United States83 Posts
April 19 2010 03:38 GMT
#45
Ordered one
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LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
April 19 2010 04:15 GMT
#46
Normally, these pricey gaming keyboard look silly and too expensive. I just stick with a standard, wired, cheapo one that works well.

This one looks really freaking cool though xD
anotak
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1537 Posts
April 19 2010 04:23 GMT
#47
mechanical? that sounds amazing, would the switches be anything like the switches in these?

http://lizardlick.com/images/for_sale/pushbuttons/happ_comp_pb_g.jpg
that shit feels like just the right bounce for when i'm playing street fighter and stuff and i often wish my keyboard had that feel
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
April 19 2010 04:33 GMT
#48
Is this keyboard any louder than a usual mechanical? Some of the reviews say it's too loud but they might not be gamers or used to any mechanical keyboard in general.I saw a vid and it sounded fine but I'd like to hear from a gamer that has it already.
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ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
April 19 2010 04:50 GMT
#49
The keyboard is slightly loader than a normal keyboard but I actuallly like the sound of it. :D
For anyone on the fence about this: I bought this keyboard for about $60 after tax/shipping about two months ago. It was worth every penny. At $20, they're practically giving these away for free.

And its hard to explain how a mechanical keyboard is better because a big part of it is the feel. You have to try it for yourself. Almost everyone I know who has tried a mechanical say they prefer it to a normal keyboard.
Chupacabra(UCSD)
Profile Joined December 2009
Mexico225 Posts
April 19 2010 06:31 GMT
#50
Just bought it... damn my impulsive buying habits....
Never pass up a good thing.
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
April 19 2010 06:34 GMT
#51
Needed an upgrade anyway. No tax, no shipping, and a coupon code.
lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
April 19 2010 06:37 GMT
#52
Looks like a nice keyboard, but there is no indentation on the caps lock key :/
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
April 19 2010 06:46 GMT
#53
isn't that a good thing? I hate accidently hitting the capslock key when I try to hit 'a'. It happens like once every month, but it pisses me off so much T_T
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lu_cid
Profile Joined April 2008
United States428 Posts
April 19 2010 06:48 GMT
#54
Yeah that's what I mean, this is the type of layout where I hit caps lock accidentally
PizzaHash
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands76 Posts
April 19 2010 07:07 GMT
#55
No macro keys... Go for a lycosa instead imo
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
April 19 2010 07:54 GMT
#56
Time to go cry for me. I bought this for 50$ a couple months ago on Newegg, not only that, it was DOA so I had to ship it back at my own cost to get it replaced.

At least it's good.
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LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
April 19 2010 08:05 GMT
#57
On April 19 2010 16:07 PizzaHash wrote:
No macro keys... Go for a lycosa instead imo


5sz6sz7sz ... Hmm i think all the macro keys i need are there.

Numpad, arrow keys, F keys are all important, but other random shortcut/macro keys just take up space that i won't use.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
April 19 2010 08:16 GMT
#58
On April 19 2010 17:05 LxRogue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 16:07 PizzaHash wrote:
No macro keys... Go for a lycosa instead imo


5sz6sz7sz ... Hmm i think all the macro keys i need are there.

Numpad, arrow keys, F keys are all important, but other random shortcut/macro keys just take up space that i won't use.


yep, i have a g15 and i decided to button knife out the macro keys on the left because i saw no need for them
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
April 20 2010 16:59 GMT
#59
I just got it delivered to me in under 40 hours since i placed the order and it is phenomenal. People who said that the resistance will be higher then regular keyboards and unsuitable for RTS are way off. It is actually way more responsive then most regular keyboards i have had in my hands.
Awesome keyboard, thansk Sadist><
On April 19 2010 17:16 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 17:05 LxRogue wrote:
On April 19 2010 16:07 PizzaHash wrote:
No macro keys... Go for a lycosa instead imo


5sz6sz7sz ... Hmm i think all the macro keys i need are there.

Numpad, arrow keys, F keys are all important, but other random shortcut/macro keys just take up space that i won't use.


yep, i have a g15 and i decided to button knife out the macro keys on the left because i saw no need for them

knoife><
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
April 20 2010 17:06 GMT
#60
On April 21 2010 01:59 Sfydjklm wrote:
I just got it delivered to me in under 40 hours since i placed the order and it is phenomenal. People who said that the resistance will be higher then regular keyboards and unsuitable for RTS are way off. It is actually way more responsive then most regular keyboards i have had in my hands.
Awesome keyboard, thansk Sadist><
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2010 17:16 GTR wrote:
On April 19 2010 17:05 LxRogue wrote:
On April 19 2010 16:07 PizzaHash wrote:
No macro keys... Go for a lycosa instead imo


5sz6sz7sz ... Hmm i think all the macro keys i need are there.

Numpad, arrow keys, F keys are all important, but other random shortcut/macro keys just take up space that i won't use.


yep, i have a g15 and i decided to button knife out the macro keys on the left because i saw no need for them

knoife><


Yeah, anyone saying a good mechanical keyboard is less reponsive/harder to press/bad for gaming clearly hasn't used one lol.
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AtariJesus
Profile Joined October 2009
United States54 Posts
April 20 2010 21:25 GMT
#61
Ah I took a look and its sold out Would have been great because I've been wanting an excuse to get rid of my old G15
Amazn
Profile Joined March 2010
United States83 Posts
April 20 2010 23:06 GMT
#62
If you're impatient (like me), there's a couple more on ebay going for $34.98 NEW + Free Shipping

http://cgi.ebay.com/ABS-M1-Heavy-Duty-Pro-Gaming-Mechanical-Keyboard-NEW-/170474399135?cmd=ViewItem&pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item27b110e59f
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GiantEnemyCrab
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada503 Posts
April 20 2010 23:09 GMT
#63
i kind of love the sound of keyboard clicking ;D
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verteqz
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada89 Posts
April 21 2010 00:17 GMT
#64
On April 21 2010 08:09 GiantEnemyCrab wrote:
i kind of love the sound of keyboard clicking ;D


The M1 has black alps switches and are non-clicky.
// verteqz.com
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
April 21 2010 00:20 GMT
#65
On April 21 2010 09:17 verteqz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 08:09 GiantEnemyCrab wrote:
i kind of love the sound of keyboard clicking ;D


The M1 has black alps switches and are non-clicky.


sure they do, but the whole "non-clicky" thing sure sounds pretty clicky to me considering i'm typing on one, and was using a G15 v2 before this which was reasonably quiet.
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Chupacabra(UCSD)
Profile Joined December 2009
Mexico225 Posts
April 21 2010 00:33 GMT
#66
omg I just got this thing in the mail and it's so nice to type on... really buy this it's amazing. Even though my roommates fucking despise me now for all the sound it makes.
Never pass up a good thing.
agarfin
Profile Joined May 2009
United States106 Posts
April 21 2010 00:39 GMT
#67
I think i might get one of these when newegg restocks as long as the price doesnt go up. I only have one question for the people who own one.

Does it come with a palm rest/how annoying is it without one?
Chupacabra(UCSD)
Profile Joined December 2009
Mexico225 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-21 02:55:14
April 21 2010 00:44 GMT
#68
On April 21 2010 09:39 agarfin wrote:
I think i might get one of these when newegg restocks as long as the price doesnt go up. I only have one question for the people who own one.

Does it come with a palm rest/how annoying is it without one?


No palm rest, I think it feels much better without one anyways.

Hey do you guys use your keyboard with the flippers (the things that raise the back of the keyboard up) or without???
Never pass up a good thing.
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-22 00:20:53
April 22 2010 00:18 GMT
#69
just got it in the mail the keys are so responsive. but they are making this springy noise though...

the lights are fucking blinding too. taped a piece of paper to cover it a bit.

I looked into the lights and i dont feel well
Pervect
Profile Joined June 2007
1280 Posts
April 22 2010 00:19 GMT
#70
Got mine as well, feels great. Don't think my roommate likes it though LOL
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
April 22 2010 00:26 GMT
#71
dont think i should eat junk food while typing on this keyboard
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-22 00:36:19
April 22 2010 00:34 GMT
#72
I also just got my package and am typing on it currently. Overall, it's a very nice keyboard and seems to have a perfect layout.

You guys should have seen the condition of the NewEgg package when it arrived. The tape was completely torn off. The box was crushed to about 1/2 it's normal size. The keyboard box was sticking out of the top! It looked like somebody had kicked the package all the way to my front door.

To be honest, I'm surprised this thing is even working right now. I guess this says something about its extreme durability?
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-22 00:47:54
April 22 2010 00:47 GMT
#73
On April 22 2010 09:34 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
I also just got my package and am typing on it currently. Overall, it's a very nice keyboard and seems to have a perfect layout.

You guys should have seen the condition of the NewEgg package when it arrived. The tape was completely torn off. The box was crushed to about 1/2 it's normal size. The keyboard box was sticking out of the top! It looked like somebody had kicked the package all the way to my front door.

To be honest, I'm surprised this thing is even working right now. I guess this says something about its extreme durability?

Typical UPS
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
April 22 2010 01:02 GMT
#74
My package arrived in perfect condition. I like the keyboard. Keys are good, layout is good, no BS, and the size itself is compact (no overly big edges on the sides). I like it a lot. The lights only seem overly bright if your face is parallel to them, if you have the feet up on to angle it then it is not bad.
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
April 22 2010 01:06 GMT
#75
Yeah, the lights aren't as bad as the reviews would have led me to believe, but they definitely are blinding from head on. Great keyboard so far, can't wait for the stupid SC2 beta patch to come out already so I can get to playing~
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
April 22 2010 01:46 GMT
#76
Mine arrived yesterday, and after getting rid of some keys (window key fucks up your shit), I got to work on some BW. The precise action on the keys is very reassuring, and the massively loud clicking makes me feel super gosu. But I've noticed some problems when I'm macroing. For example:

(Warning, I didn't take the time to proofread this. I just blurted it out and posted it. Bad formatting and opinions ahoy!)
+ Show Spoiler +
I play zerg and I like to mass ling (kwanro <3 (also, remember that one MSL right before Oversky joined ACE when he mass linged Bisu to death? God that is one of my favorite games ever)), so when I'm hovering over my hatcheries and mashing SZ I tend to get some fucked up inputs. It's like the keyboard doesn't acknowledge that I pressed S BEFORE Z. So I go back to micro my army, go back to my main base, and find three larva at every hatch (FML).

This is me making a conscious effort to press S before Z, while still doing it as fast as I can (pressing the space bar with my right hand to simulate clicking a different hatch with my mouse):
sz sz zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs sz zs zs zs
zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs sz zs s z
zs s zzs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs s zzs zs
sz zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs

SZ = success! Lings on the way! ZS's = fail, gg no re.

I can slow it down and get the correct input, but what's the point of having practiced my macro if I can use it?

Though thank god it doesn't ever fuck up drone production. I'd gg if I lost a game because I failed at droning at the right point of time:
sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd (pass)

Some other units:
sm sm sm sm sm sm sm sm sm sm sm (pass)
sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh (pass)
su su su su su su su su su su su su (pass)
so so so so so so so so so so so so (pass)
sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf (pass)
zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs sz zs zs zs sz (fucking..... ugh)

In conclusion, if you're a cheesy zerg player who likes to all-in with lings, don't use this keyboard.




TLDR version, the post I've quoted from earlier in the thread is 100% accurate in my case, and my missing lings prove it!
On April 17 2010 16:19 blabber wrote:
WARNING!!

you may want to read through this if you are considering buying this keyboard
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:7122

possible problems with typos if you type too fast (>120 wpm)



For anyone who's curious, I took the liberty of finding that amazing Oversky game for you:
+ Show Spoiler +
Amazing game! Very micro intensive. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time watching it for the first time.

Part 1:


Part 2:
5sz6sz7sz1a2a3a4a kwanrollllllled
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
April 22 2010 01:49 GMT
#77
Great post, I opened up a tab while reading your post to look for the game you mentioned but then found out you saved me the trouble. :p Hopefully the "sz" problem doesn't come up too often though.
Plaaguu
Profile Joined April 2009
United States406 Posts
April 22 2010 02:23 GMT
#78
Just got mine today. It feels great.


On April 22 2010 10:46 number1gog wrote:
Mine arrived yesterday, and after getting rid of some keys (window key fucks up your shit), I got to work on some BW. The precise action on the keys is very reassuring, and the massively loud clicking makes me feel super gosu. But I've noticed some problems when I'm macroing. For example:

(Warning, I didn't take the time to proofread this. I just blurted it out and posted it. Bad formatting and opinions ahoy!)
+ Show Spoiler +
I play zerg and I like to mass ling (kwanro <3 (also, remember that one MSL right before Oversky joined ACE when he mass linged Bisu to death? God that is one of my favorite games ever)), so when I'm hovering over my hatcheries and mashing SZ I tend to get some fucked up inputs. It's like the keyboard doesn't acknowledge that I pressed S BEFORE Z. So I go back to micro my army, go back to my main base, and find three larva at every hatch (FML).

This is me making a conscious effort to press S before Z, while still doing it as fast as I can (pressing the space bar with my right hand to simulate clicking a different hatch with my mouse):
sz sz zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs sz zs zs zs
zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs sz zs s z
zs s zzs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs s zzs zs
sz zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs

SZ = success! Lings on the way! ZS's = fail, gg no re.

I can slow it down and get the correct input, but what's the point of having practiced my macro if I can use it?

Though thank god it doesn't ever fuck up drone production. I'd gg if I lost a game because I failed at droning at the right point of time:
sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd (pass)

Some other units:
sm sm sm sm sm sm sm sm sm sm sm (pass)
sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh (pass)
su su su su su su su su su su su su (pass)
so so so so so so so so so so so so (pass)
sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf (pass)
zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs sz zs zs zs sz (fucking..... ugh)

In conclusion, if you're a cheesy zerg player who likes to all-in with lings, don't use this keyboard.




TLDR version, the post I've quoted from earlier in the thread is 100% accurate in my case, and my missing lings prove it!
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2010 16:19 blabber wrote:
WARNING!!

you may want to read through this if you are considering buying this keyboard
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:7122

possible problems with typos if you type too fast (>120 wpm)



For anyone who's curious, I took the liberty of finding that amazing Oversky game for you:
+ Show Spoiler +
Amazing game! Very micro intensive. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time watching it for the first time.

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3YQ6a9_kQ0

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niLny96efRY


How did you remove the keys? I've been trying for the last 30 minutes, but to no avail...
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-22 02:29:31
April 22 2010 02:28 GMT
#79
damn i get the zs issue too. probably because s takes longer to travel than z

gotta get use to it...
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
April 22 2010 02:32 GMT
#80
On April 22 2010 11:23 edhead999 wrote:
Just got mine today. It feels great.


Show nested quote +
On April 22 2010 10:46 number1gog wrote:
Mine arrived yesterday, and after getting rid of some keys (window key fucks up your shit), I got to work on some BW. The precise action on the keys is very reassuring, and the massively loud clicking makes me feel super gosu. But I've noticed some problems when I'm macroing. For example:

(Warning, I didn't take the time to proofread this. I just blurted it out and posted it. Bad formatting and opinions ahoy!)
+ Show Spoiler +
I play zerg and I like to mass ling (kwanro <3 (also, remember that one MSL right before Oversky joined ACE when he mass linged Bisu to death? God that is one of my favorite games ever)), so when I'm hovering over my hatcheries and mashing SZ I tend to get some fucked up inputs. It's like the keyboard doesn't acknowledge that I pressed S BEFORE Z. So I go back to micro my army, go back to my main base, and find three larva at every hatch (FML).

This is me making a conscious effort to press S before Z, while still doing it as fast as I can (pressing the space bar with my right hand to simulate clicking a different hatch with my mouse):
sz sz zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs sz zs zs zs
zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs sz zs s z
zs s zzs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs s zzs zs
sz zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs

SZ = success! Lings on the way! ZS's = fail, gg no re.

I can slow it down and get the correct input, but what's the point of having practiced my macro if I can use it?

Though thank god it doesn't ever fuck up drone production. I'd gg if I lost a game because I failed at droning at the right point of time:
sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd sd (pass)

Some other units:
sm sm sm sm sm sm sm sm sm sm sm (pass)
sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh sh (pass)
su su su su su su su su su su su su (pass)
so so so so so so so so so so so so (pass)
sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf sf (pass)
zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs zs sz zs zs zs sz (fucking..... ugh)

In conclusion, if you're a cheesy zerg player who likes to all-in with lings, don't use this keyboard.




TLDR version, the post I've quoted from earlier in the thread is 100% accurate in my case, and my missing lings prove it!
On April 17 2010 16:19 blabber wrote:
WARNING!!

you may want to read through this if you are considering buying this keyboard
http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:7122

possible problems with typos if you type too fast (>120 wpm)



For anyone who's curious, I took the liberty of finding that amazing Oversky game for you:
+ Show Spoiler +
Amazing game! Very micro intensive. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time watching it for the first time.

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3YQ6a9_kQ0

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niLny96efRY


How did you remove the keys? I've been trying for the last 30 minutes, but to no avail...


Pliers. And elbow grease.

I tried it once and it seemed impossible, so I stopped trying until I looked into if it was possible or not. It is. You just can't be afraid to break anything.
5sz6sz7sz1a2a3a4a kwanrollllllled
BladeRunner
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States407 Posts
April 22 2010 02:34 GMT
#81
Mine arrived today too, loving it! Feels so old school and awesome.
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
April 22 2010 02:41 GMT
#82
I opened Notepad and did sz a whole bunch of times as fast as possible, even using two hands to go faster and did not have the issue of zs.
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
April 22 2010 02:43 GMT
#83
On April 22 2010 11:41 RyanS wrote:
I opened Notepad and did sz a whole bunch of times as fast as possible, even using two hands to go faster and did not have the issue of zs.

.......lucky bastard
5sz6sz7sz1a2a3a4a kwanrollllllled
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
April 22 2010 02:44 GMT
#84
On April 22 2010 11:41 RyanS wrote:
I opened Notepad and did sz a whole bunch of times as fast as possible, even using two hands to go faster and did not have the issue of zs.

you're supposed to press them almost instantaneously but consciously press s before z.
clearly using two hands shows you aren't doing it right
RyanS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States620 Posts
April 22 2010 03:20 GMT
#85
On April 22 2010 11:44 Kentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2010 11:41 RyanS wrote:
I opened Notepad and did sz a whole bunch of times as fast as possible, even using two hands to go faster and did not have the issue of zs.

you're supposed to press them almost instantaneously but consciously press s before z.
clearly using two hands shows you aren't doing it right

I didn't realize the problem stated was from mashing a set of keys simultaneously and expecting them to come out in the order wanted, can't exactly call that a precise way to make Zerglings. In that case, yes it comes out zs on my keyboard. I'll disagree on the doing it right part though, seems like a user error.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
April 22 2010 03:28 GMT
#86
actually it's interesting you should mention this because on my keyboard (just an ordinary laptop keyboard) when i hit s and z simultaneously, it comes out as sz. but when i hit s and h, or s and d, or s and m, it comes out as ds/hs/ms. it only comes out in the right order for zerglings, so apparently it is a keyboard issue
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number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
April 22 2010 03:42 GMT
#87
On April 22 2010 12:20 RyanS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2010 11:44 Kentor wrote:
On April 22 2010 11:41 RyanS wrote:
I opened Notepad and did sz a whole bunch of times as fast as possible, even using two hands to go faster and did not have the issue of zs.

you're supposed to press them almost instantaneously but consciously press s before z.
clearly using two hands shows you aren't doing it right

I didn't realize the problem stated was from mashing a set of keys simultaneously and expecting them to come out in the order wanted, can't exactly call that a precise way to make Zerglings. In that case, yes it comes out zs on my keyboard. I'll disagree on the doing it right part though, seems like a user error.

I don't think you're quite understanding the point. There is a distinct separation in the time we press S and the time we press Z, the issue is that it's so close together the keyboard fucks up and reverses the input.
5sz6sz7sz1a2a3a4a kwanrollllllled
verteqz
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada89 Posts
April 22 2010 03:49 GMT
#88
On April 21 2010 09:20 prodiG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 09:17 verteqz wrote:
On April 21 2010 08:09 GiantEnemyCrab wrote:
i kind of love the sound of keyboard clicking ;D


The M1 has black alps switches and are non-clicky.


sure they do, but the whole "non-clicky" thing sure sounds pretty clicky to me considering i'm typing on one, and was using a G15 v2 before this which was reasonably quiet.


That's because your point of reference is a membrane-based keyboard. If you've tried mechanical keys that make a click sound when they actuate you'll be able to tell the difference. (Try cherry mx blue switches).
// verteqz.com
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
April 22 2010 03:54 GMT
#89
On April 22 2010 12:49 verteqz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 09:20 prodiG wrote:
On April 21 2010 09:17 verteqz wrote:
On April 21 2010 08:09 GiantEnemyCrab wrote:
i kind of love the sound of keyboard clicking ;D


The M1 has black alps switches and are non-clicky.


sure they do, but the whole "non-clicky" thing sure sounds pretty clicky to me considering i'm typing on one, and was using a G15 v2 before this which was reasonably quiet.


That's because your point of reference is a membrane-based keyboard. If you've tried mechanical keys that make a click sound when they actuate you'll be able to tell the difference. (Try cherry mx blue switches).


hey i have blue switches ^_^ quite nice indeed. at least i think theyre blue...might be gold actually.

I've been using the same Cherry G80 - 3000 and it is absolutely amazing. Heavily recommend to anyone who's as anal as me about having the perfect keyboard and freaks out if they play on a different one.
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QuothTheRaven
Profile Joined December 2008
United States5524 Posts
April 22 2010 04:34 GMT
#90
Newegg's out of stock
. . . nevermore
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
April 23 2010 02:20 GMT
#91
--- Nuked ---
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
April 25 2010 05:07 GMT
#92
Seems like quite a hassle to type without a return key, lol.
carwashguy
Profile Joined June 2009
United States175 Posts
May 02 2010 15:42 GMT
#93
I come from the high-speed Tetris scene, and play at upwards of 8+ keys/second. I experimented with an oldschool mechanical keyboard, and it just didn't do the trick. I can play faster with "softer" keys, simply because you don't need to press them as hard. Maybe 5 years ago these were the best, but nowadays you can find extremely responsive and gaming-grade keyboards easily online.
verteqz
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada89 Posts
May 02 2010 19:10 GMT
#94
On May 03 2010 00:42 carwashguy wrote:
I come from the high-speed Tetris scene, and play at upwards of 8+ keys/second. I experimented with an oldschool mechanical keyboard, and it just didn't do the trick. I can play faster with "softer" keys, simply because you don't need to press them as hard. Maybe 5 years ago these were the best, but nowadays you can find extremely responsive and gaming-grade keyboards easily online.


You do know that different "oldschool mechanical" keyboards use different switches right? You're using the wrong switches for playing tetris.

http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Mechanical Switch Keyboards Sorted By Switch

I have not found any membrane based keyboard that requires less force than my board with cherry MX browns (45 grams). There are switches that are even lighter than this.

Nowadays, it is much cheaper to make keyboards based on membrane switches and people have forgotten what a good keyboard feels like. "Gaming-grade" keyboards (with the exception of the SteelSeries 7G with linear black cherries) are all marketed with gimmicky stuff like back lighting and macro buttons and mechanical keyboards (which were standard decades ago) are now made as niche products. It's a shame, really.
// verteqz.com
Chuiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
3470 Posts
June 28 2010 23:14 GMT
#95
Bump, I was a total idiot and didn't pick this up months ago (well I didn't really have money then but anyway..) so does anyone know a place that sells this right now? I checked ebay, amazon, and newegg and no sites have it. Google gives me tons of sites with reviews and links to the newegg listing for it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823224001
♞
loafmaster
Profile Joined August 2006
United States203 Posts
June 30 2010 04:13 GMT
#96
I have been looking for this keyboard as well. On newegg it used to just say "out of stock," but now there's an actual price. Maybe a sign that it is going to become available soon? Someone who is a newegg frequent flier can confirm this?
vek
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia936 Posts
June 30 2010 05:27 GMT
#97
For the people complaining about the "clicking" sound from mechanical keyboards I recommend getting one with Cherry MX Brown switches. They have no click but still have the tactile touch for the good "feel".

I have an MX Brown Filco at home. Having to use this rubbish Logitech membrane keyboard while I am overseas makes me realise how great mechanical keyboards really are and I miss mine dearly
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
June 30 2010 05:36 GMT
#98
So I've been using mine for 2.5 months now, and I can say that I definitely got to like it more than my previous i-rocks scissor switch (laptop type) keyboard. It had really shitty switches that were prone to breaking and getting worn from normal use, and replacing scissor switches from spare keys is really annoying and difficult.


No complaints about ABS M1 so far, and the clicking noise in an empty room is actually pretty rhythmic and not annoying at all, it helps me get work done
Anxiety
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States650 Posts
June 30 2010 05:40 GMT
#99
On April 17 2010 11:09 Ftrunkz wrote:
... What IS a mechanical keyboard?

Unlike most keyboards which can be bought at barracks, these are only available once you have built a factory with attached tech lab. It is here that you can research durability and tactile feel.


I totally understood this more than the other responces.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
June 30 2010 05:43 GMT
#100
I got the board because of this thread....LOVE it, takes a few days to get used too but now I swear I type 30% faster and more accurately.
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Hail Eris
Profile Joined May 2010
United States20 Posts
June 30 2010 17:30 GMT
#101
Mechanical imo

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kzn
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1218 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 20:56:39
June 30 2010 20:54 GMT
#102
FFFFFFFFFF
Like a G6
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 20:57:35
June 30 2010 20:57 GMT
#103
I'll stick with my shit one. Mechanical keyboards are hella pointless for everything but annoying other people in the room.


EDIT: oh this is an old thread I guess..strange thing to have been bumped...
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SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 21:06:51
June 30 2010 21:04 GMT
#104
On July 01 2010 05:57 Piy wrote:
I'll stick with my shit one. Mechanical keyboards are hella pointless for everything but annoying other people in the room.


EDIT: oh this is an old thread I guess..strange thing to have been bumped...

It's a good thing you read the exhaustive number of pages and websites that have been posted before offering this tasty tidbit of keyboard knowledge...
Zapperkhan
Profile Joined October 2008
United States436 Posts
June 30 2010 21:14 GMT
#105
Nothing really to contribute but this reader review from Newegg made me laugh.


Pros: I RAGED THE OTHER DAY AND BEAT MY MONITOR INTO MY DESK WITH THIS KEYBOARD!!!! IT STILL WORKS!!!!!!!
Cons: I KEEP DYING!!!!
Other Thoughts: NONE
TheMango
Profile Joined April 2007
United States1967 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-30 21:31:42
June 30 2010 21:27 GMT
#106
I currently have $7 LITEON keyboard which I purchased from Newegg based on the reviews, but just yesterday ordered a FILCO Majestouch Majestouch Tactile Touch NKRO Keyboard (brown cherry switch). The main reason why I'm switching is cause of the lack of N Key rollover. I believe my keyboard only picks up 4 max simultaneous key presses which is an issue for me when playing FPS's.

Links:
LITEON keyboard - cheap keyboard, no frills, very quiet, durable. Probably uses some kind of membrane switch.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823107119

Majestouch Tactile Touch NKRO (brown cherry switch)
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=filco_keyboards,majestouch_104key&pid=fkbn104meb

Good faq on the various switches
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/support.php?lang=en#faq

Frequently Asked Questions
What is a mechanical switch keyboard?
Most keyboards that either come with a computer for free these days or are purchased for next to nothing at the local computer mart use inexpensive "rubber dome" or "membrane" contacts under the keys that have a mushy feel, lack tactile feedback, and must be fully depressed in order to be detected. The result can be an uncomfortable and tiring typing experience. Mechanical keyboards on the other hand utilize an individual mechanical switch underneath each key that provides consistent actuation. Such switches are usually only used for industrial applications due to their price. The benefit of these mechanical switches is comfort, increased typing speeds, and lifetime. Mechanical switches are rated for millions of key presses. In its lifetime a high quality mechanical switch based keyboard will provide a reliable and pleasurable typing experience for a long time to come, outliving several cheaper keyboards.
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gdroxor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States639 Posts
June 30 2010 23:08 GMT
#107
I was really hoping that this was going to be some sort of brass, 50 pound steampunk keyboard.

But call me weird, but the sound of loud ass keys is awesome.
prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
June 30 2010 23:18 GMT
#108
Cherry mechanical keyboards are by far the most awesome. I use them in both my job and gaming. Might give this one a go though, looks good.
Oh no
Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2749 Posts
June 30 2010 23:23 GMT
#109
I can imagine, if you compare keyboards to pianos; mechanical keyboards are fully weighed keys and membrane keyboards are your plastic springs keyboards.
sjon03
Profile Joined July 2009
United States231 Posts
June 30 2010 23:24 GMT
#110
I wish this thread was never bumped, it's only another reminded on what I missed out on. Two of my friends bought the ABS M1 and I'm both happy (nice keyboard to type on) and sad (I didn't buy one) when I use their keyboards.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
July 01 2010 00:02 GMT
#111
The only problem I have with this keyboard is that sometimes the space key starts to squeak a bit and it gets a little annoying. Other than that, this keyboard is an absolute joy to type on.
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 01 2010 00:04 GMT
#112
Oil her up bro. O;
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
July 01 2010 00:10 GMT
#113
On July 01 2010 08:24 sjon03 wrote:
I wish this thread was never bumped, it's only another reminded on what I missed out on. Two of my friends bought the ABS M1 and I'm both happy (nice keyboard to type on) and sad (I didn't buy one) when I use their keyboards.


Flash uses DT-35 fighting~~~
sjon03
Profile Joined July 2009
United States231 Posts
July 01 2010 00:22 GMT
#114
On July 01 2010 09:10 TieN.nS) wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On July 01 2010 08:24 sjon03 wrote:
I wish this thread was never bumped, it's only another reminded on what I missed out on. Two of my friends bought the ABS M1 and I'm both happy (nice keyboard to type on) and sad (I didn't buy one) when I use their keyboards.


Flash uses DT-35 fighting~~~


Having a DT-35 of my own to use is the only thing that keeps me from crying at night after missing out on the newegg deal
Zapperkhan
Profile Joined October 2008
United States436 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 00:31:12
July 01 2010 00:27 GMT
#115
Amazing keybaord info/guide a very good read.
http://www.overclock.net/computer-peripherals/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
August 21 2010 18:22 GMT
#116
On July 01 2010 09:27 Zapperkhan wrote:
Amazing keybaord info/guide a very good read.
http://www.overclock.net/computer-peripherals/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html


I just read this, and I was curious what some of the people who bought the ABS M1 think of its performance in terms of starcraft, on a scale of 1-5, 5 being the best. Also curious if anyone has used other mechanical keyboards as well, and how the M1 compares to those.

Poll: ABS M1 Starcraft Performance

4 (1)
 
100%

1 (0)
 
0%

2 (0)
 
0%

3 (0)
 
0%

5 (0)
 
0%

1 total votes

Your vote: ABS M1 Starcraft Performance

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5





Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
August 21 2010 18:25 GMT
#117
If anyone still wants to get an ABS M1 -it's no longer being manufactured as the M1...

Since newegg owns ABS, it's remaking the boards with a new name: Rosewill RK-9000
6581
PlagueRat
Profile Joined July 2010
United States39 Posts
August 21 2010 18:35 GMT
#118
I can only use mechanical keyboards i lose where my hand is on a gummy keyboard.
lol I buy mine for $10 at a local computer store in a bin, to be honest i can't recognize any difference between a $10 keyboard and a $100 keyboard except the $100 keyboard has a bunch of useless features
And its true, the clouds just hung around, like black cadillacs, outside a funeral.
dahornnn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom395 Posts
August 21 2010 18:36 GMT
#119
On August 22 2010 03:25 Loser777 wrote:
If anyone still wants to get an ABS M1 -it's no longer being manufactured as the M1...

Since newegg owns ABS, it's remaking the boards with a new name: Rosewill RK-9000

Any ideas where id be able to get this in europe? Can't find it anywhere ;/
PlagueRat
Profile Joined July 2010
United States39 Posts
August 21 2010 18:39 GMT
#120
Does Newegg not ship to EU? Try tigerdirect
And its true, the clouds just hung around, like black cadillacs, outside a funeral.
katull
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany14 Posts
August 21 2010 19:33 GMT
#121
Here you'll find a very good description of mechanical keyboards, their pros, cons and types:

http://www.overclock.net/computer-peripherals/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html
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