EPTWhat's good about Buddhism really? They believe you can become a bodhisattva and enter nirvana. They spend their days meditating for hours and walking around being careful not to accidentally squash ants under their feet. C'mon, while buddhism is a peaceful "religion" it's still a pretty retarded one.
China warns Obama not to meet with Dalai Lama - Page 2
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Foucault
Sweden2826 Posts
What's good about Buddhism really? They believe you can become a bodhisattva and enter nirvana. They spend their days meditating for hours and walking around being careful not to accidentally squash ants under their feet. C'mon, while buddhism is a peaceful "religion" it's still a pretty retarded one. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
On February 02 2010 21:17 zatic wrote: WTF Inc as if that is even remotely what he just said. '... but I think you should acknowledge that the current situation in Tibet is a lot more complicated than "give peaceful monks their independence, yo."' But I guess moderating is completely in vain here anyway, China thread #546 GO! No. The post I was responding to was comparing al qaeda to DL (he admits it is extreme, but the comparison remains) I discuss why that is absurd. This guy says "it is more complicated than Tibet = awesome" and I respond saying "yeah I rescind what I was saying, Tibet blows and is the same as al qaeda." SO TECHNICALLY I was never responding to "what he said" I was blasting a bad comparison. He complicates that by saying "it isn't all good" (no shit) but that was never my point. My point was on "moral high ground" Tibet/DL come WAY over the top on China's political stance regarding them and comparisons to al qaeda are completely retarded GOOD DAY SIR | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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love1another
United States1844 Posts
On February 02 2010 21:21 Amber[LighT] wrote: hohoho and China's grip on America's balls finally shows up... well played China, well played. Again... I don't think this has anything to do with the fact that America owes China a lot of money... If Texas declared independence tomorrow, it wouldn't be short of a declaration of war for China to open a diplomatic channel with Texas. On February 02 2010 21:20 Foucault wrote: I think people have a faulty view on tibet and the people living there. I don't think there are just peaceful (male) monks going around praying peaceful living all day long. Most likely there is alot of dissent and non-compliance with China in general. I'm not saying that's wrong, just saying. What's good about Buddhism really? They believe you can become a bodhisattva and enter nirvana. They spend their days meditating for hours and walking around being careful not to accidentally squash ants under their feet. C'mon, while buddhism is a peaceful "religion" it's still a pretty retarded one. The religion is far from retarded. It has justified historical roots and can be seen as a liberal reinterpretation of the ideologically more stringent Hinduism, in much the same way as the monotheistic religions, historically, have been periodically reinterpreted and spllt... Judaism > Christianity > Islam, not including the several branches of each of those 3 religions. (Ideologically, the best comparison would be Lutheranism to Catholicism, is Buddhism to Hinduism) If the argument is against their not wanting to crush bugs, I think that's sort of, well, stupid. In terms of core principles, however, I believe that Buddhism is one of the religions most conducive to orderly society because it, at its very essence, disowns the notion of extremism. Anyway, just my take... I have some Buddhist family members and a buddhist roommate and they're all hardcore cool. | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
On February 02 2010 21:18 love1another wrote: Furthermore, the presence of so many Han Chinese in the Tibetan territories makes it even more difficult for Beijing to say "Fuck it. You can go." isn't that convenient | ||
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exeexe
Denmark937 Posts
How would the world react to that? They would be passive. The Americans must accept that in China they dont have democratic leadership and americans should be more careful when they deal with foreign affairs. Not to mention China owns all the US $$$ and they could just destroy the american eco ez ez ez ez | ||
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love1another
United States1844 Posts
On February 02 2010 21:27 exeexe wrote: China could kill Dalai Lama if they wanted to, as to a countermessure that goverment leaders should not meet with Dalai - or put him in a prison, isolate him. How would the world react to that? They would be passive. The Americans must accept that in China they dont have democratic leadership and americans should be more careful when they deal with foreign affairs. Not to mention China owns all the US $$$ and they could just destroy the american eco ez ez ez ez T_T So much ignorance. I can't comment on the first part but the part about China owning all the US $$$ is absurd. If China were to say "No more moneyz Mr. America! >  " they would essentially be shooting themselves in the foot as so much of their foreign reserves is in dollars. Any crumbling of the US currency will, at least in the short term, have HUGE repercussions in China as well. And given the relative size of the GDPs of the two countries, any such suicidal measures would be ineffective as a means for a sustained economic attack. It would be like scourging carriers only when scourge cost more gas than carriers.Why can't these discussions be more about "How can we all be friends and find a peaceable solution to Tibet that gives them as much autonomy as they desire without sparking Chinese fears about National Security or without leading to broader persecution of the significant Han minority in the region?" and less about "LOL. CHINA SUCKS THEY HAVE US $$$$, LOL AL QAEDA" | ||
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Pika Chu
Romania2510 Posts
At first glance this seemed totally silly to me. But, does this demand make any kind of sense? Is there a plausible argument behind the Chinese government's demand that Obama not meet with the DL? Obama is a president. Dalai Lama is not. A country's (especially one of the most powerful) president only meets the similar position of other countries. So that does "signal" something, it's not as silly as you think seen from china's position. | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
On February 02 2010 21:27 exeexe wrote: China could kill Dalai Lama if they wanted to, as to a countermessure that goverment leaders should not meet with Dalai - or put him in a prison, isolate him. How would the world react to that? They would be passive. The Americans must accept that in China they dont have democratic leadership and americans should be more careful when they deal with foreign affairs. Not to mention China owns all the US $$$ and they could just destroy the american eco ez ez ez ez not yet, not until they dumped all the american teabills they have, but yea the chinese are gaining foothold in global influence with them hoarding up all the natural resources in the world slowly... then again, america is like a maxed out fully upgraded terran mech army but almost mined out all available expos, while the chinese are like a starting zergs army expanding all over the place with fresh expos almost ready to explode with tonnes of zergling and hydras. | ||
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TeWy
France714 Posts
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love1another
United States1844 Posts
On February 02 2010 21:41 TeWy wrote: Would you please stop using the term "China" to refer to a part of their government. Would you prefer the terms "Beijing," and "Lhasa" for disambiguation? | ||
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exeexe
Denmark937 Posts
On February 02 2010 21:35 love1another wrote: T_T So much ignorance. I can't comment on the first part but the part about China owning all the US $$$ is absurd. If China were to say "No more moneyz Mr. America! > " they would essentially be shooting themselves in the foot as so much of their foreign reserves is in dollars. Any crumbling of the US currency will, at least in the short term, have HUGE repercussions in China as well. And given the relative size of the GDPs of the two countries, any such suicidal measures would be ineffective as a means for a sustained economic attack.QAEDA"sure both China and US would suffer from this but in China ppl work to buy stuff. In The US, like, they just burrow money from those who work so the americans can buy stuff. So after the first eco collision and after all the dust has settled China will come out on top because they work. | ||
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Redunzl
862 Posts
On February 02 2010 20:28 Chen wrote: The political reason is that by meeting with the Dalai Llama the US officially recognizes them and its seen as a show of support for that nation, which undermines the Chinese position. Can you imagine the outrage if the Chinese or Russian representatives met with Al Qaeda to broker a "peace"? extreme example obviously but that's partly what the Chinese government thinks. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On February 02 2010 21:47 exeexe wrote: sure both China and US would suffer from this but in China ppl work to buy stuff. In The US, like, they just burrow money from those who work so the americans can buy stuff. So after the first eco collision and after all the dust has settled China will come out on top because they work. http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0121/China-the-world-s-next-great-economic-crash Food for thought. It's an export economy, in a decreasing export market. | ||
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
and then we will have people telling us that China can do no wrong and then the trolls will come. Look alive my children, and be warned. For another china thread has been released. | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
On February 02 2010 21:57 ghermination wrote: First, we will have the people speaking of great injustices and then we will have people telling us that China can do no wrong and then the trolls will come. Look alive my children, and be warned. For another china thread has been released. amen... i wonder if they had internetz + forum back in the days of the cold war would a soviet thread back then would look like a china thread today? | ||
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iFU.pauline
France1776 Posts
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Bash
Finland1533 Posts
Not that China is that much better; it's just stupid to go around supporting this guy just because the west likes to perceive China as the enemy. | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
On February 02 2010 22:05 paulinepain wrote: anything that goes against China is a problem anyway. China wants to eliminate Tibet, so that's it, it's just political. It's the same with Taiwan. If you support Taiwan and make arrangement with them then China will go baby cry. to be fair, it is a Chinese domestic political problems with tibet and taiwan... should we really be butting into other peeps family issues? | ||
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magicbullet
Singapore163 Posts
On February 02 2010 21:56 Jibba wrote: http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0121/China-the-world-s-next-great-economic-crash Food for thought. It's an export economy, in a decreasing export market. China has been exploring ways to increase domestic consumption for a while now and their measures have been effective. While world trade pummeled in early 2009, China experienced just a blip in its growth. While Dubai's growth hinges on the soaring property prices and its prospect of developing its financial sector, China's growth is the result of thousands of rural villagers finding more productive work in the cities. | ||
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