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1) 20 2) ~200 hours 3) advanced 4) 1. Resource Management 2. Recruitment 3. Interface management 4. Offense 5. Defense 6. Exploration 7. Thinking about the opponents strategy 8. Upgrading 9. Building Management
These choices for important factors aren't easy to put in a list. You need to have decent mechanical ability to be able to build your economy and forces, as well as scout. If you can't do these tasks at at least a basic level, then you cannot execute the strategic decisions you make based on interpreted information. Once you achieve a competent skill level with mechanical ability, it gradually becomes more important to properly scout, and then make proper strategic decisions.
I think a better set of points to organize based on importance would be:
-Economic Management (Macro, or the skill & speed with which you use the game interface to control your Economy) -Unit Management (Micro, or the skill & speed with which you use the game interface to control your forces) -Scouting (Information Gathering) -Strategic Macro Decision Making (Which Units, Tech, Upgrades, Expansions, Defenses to get) -Strategic Micro Decision Making (Harassment, Positioning, Timing of attacks, Ability usage etc.) -Mindset (Confidence, determination, staying calm and thinking clearly).
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1) 22 2) 1000 3) expert
1)Resource Management (Wins by a loophole since not having enough workers is the worst thing you could do, but it only applies to early beginners)
2)Recruitment
3)Exploration (We can agree that seeing opponent's strategy is better than "thinking about opponent's strategy")
4)Offense
5)Defense
6)Upgrades
7)Building Management
8)Thinking about Opponent's strategy (Games are so ABC123 these days that not a lot of thought is required
9) Interface management (Having good micro/macro is more important than having good apm for example
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Wow thanks guys!! In spite of what some posters are saying, this task is possible to do, and I'm getting from great results so far.
Please keep it up!!
Thanks again,
Carmen
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1) 22 2) Total? 8000-10,000 hours? Maybe even higher. 3) Advanced
1) Resources Management - this is usually a non issue except with beginning players because the first thing you learn when you start playing is to "never stop building workers".
2) Recruitment - Macro/Micro
3) Exploration - If you keep your scouting up then "thinking about opponents strategy" really doesn't matter because all the counters are basic knowledge and you know what you should do immediately.
4) Offense - The best defense is a good offense.
5) Interface management - Hot keys, gotta have them.
6) Upgrading
7) Defense
8) Building Management
9) Thinking about the opponents strategy
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age 19, advanced
Resources Management The recruitment of SCVs, assignment of SCV to extract resources, or the building of a gas extractor
Interface management The game interface, such as hot keys or group key assignments
Thinking about the opponents strategy Mental state or possible strategic plans of the opponent(s)
Exploration Scanning or moving unit(s) to unexplored areas
These two go together, depending on your scouting: Defense Defensive actions or plans Offense Offensive actions or plans
Recruitment The recruitment of military units
Upgrading Upgrading or improving building or units
Building Management Building repairing, moving buildings
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Its really about combining all of these things together. After a while SC players learn how to distribute their time into paying attention to all of those. At different times, all of those things can win or lose the game, so they are all equally as important.
For example, you can have great micro, perfect split every time, can micro your units to the absolute maximum effeciency, but if you arent playing attention to your minerals and making more workers and building ttech and production buildings, producing units, and thinking about what you are going to do AFTER what you are doing, you are going to lose.
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1) Your age - 21 2) Number of hours experience with Starcraft (approximate) - on and off for a decade; your description of your own experience with Starcraft probably fits mine; so put whatever hours you designated for yourself to me. 3) What level of expert you consider yourself (beginner, advanced, intermediate, expert, professional) - advanced
4) Could you please sort the and rank the following concepts in order of importance they are to winning a Starcraft match, the first in the list or (1) being the most important and the last on the list (9) being the least important. I've put the concept name and then a very brief definition underneath. The concepts are below listed in no particular order.
6. Exploration Scanning or moving unit(s) to unexplored areas
7. Building Management Building repairing, moving buildings
9. Upgrading Upgrading or improving building or units
2. Thinking about the opponents strategy Mental state or possible strategic plans of the opponent(s)
4. Interface management The game interface, such as hot keys or group key assignments
3. Defense Defensive actions or plans
1. Offense Offensive actions or plans
8. Recruitment The recruitment of military units
5. Resources Management The recruitment of SCVs, assignment of SCV to extract resources, or the building of a gas extractor
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Thanks!! I really appreciate it. I think I need about 10 more entries in order to make my data statistically significant.
Carmen
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I am 23. Playing for eleven years. Intermediate.
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1. Thinking about the opponents strategy Mental state or possible strategic plans of the opponent(s)
2. Resources Management The recruitment of SCVs, assignment of SCV to extract resources, or the building of a gas extractor
3. Exploration Scanning or moving unit(s) to unexplored areas
4. Defense Defensive actions or plans
5. Offense Offensive actions or plans
6. Recruitment The recruitment of military units
7. Upgrading Upgrading or improving building or units
8. Interface management The game interface, such as hot keys or group key assignments
9. Building Management Building repairing, moving buildings
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Can you elaborate on what you are trying to learn about through this study? It might help people to rank these interrelated aspects of gameplay. For example, should things that are ranked at the top of my list be such that if I ignore those elements of the game, then I am almost guaranteed to lose? Whereas things near the bottom of the list are such that if I ignore them, it won't hurt my chances of winning nearly as much?
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1) 19 2) 12500 3) High Intermediate, currently Advanced.
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Thinking about the opponents strategy Mental state or possible strategic plans of the opponent(s)
Resources Management The recruitment of SCVs, assignment of SCV to extract resources, or the building of a gas extractor
Offense Offensive actions or plans
Recruitment The recruitment of military units
Exploration Scanning or moving unit(s) to unexplored areas
Upgrading Upgrading or improving building or units
Defense Defensive actions or plans
Interface management The game interface, such as hot keys or group key assignments
Building Management Building repairing, moving buildings
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On November 22 2009 08:01 category wrote: Can you elaborate on what you are trying to learn about through this study? It might help people to rank these interrelated aspects of gameplay. For example, should things that are ranked at the top of my list be such that if I ignore those elements of the game, then I am almost guaranteed to lose? Whereas things near the bottom of the list are such that if I ignore them, it won't hurt my chances of winning nearly as much?
Being at the bottom doesn't mean you should ignore that category, it only means that category is less important (even very slighly) then all the other other categories.
Carmen
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1) 18 2) Over 10,000 Hours... what a waste of life 3) Intermediate
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1) Defense - Build up and defend and eventually move out 2) Offense - Kill off extra expos to stay ahead 3) Resources Management - Build a lot of miners and eventually does a lot of positives during the game 4) Upgrading - Siege, Stim, Mines, + damage + armor, very important 5) Recruitment- What good is resources if you don't use them? 6) Exploration - Know what you are up against 7) Thinking about the opponents strategy - Kind of hard to think about it unless you explore 8) Interface management - meh 9) Building management- This sort of goes under scouting and because i see it as a sub category it isn't too big. And only applies to terran
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Any more respondents, tonight is your last chance. Thanks to all who have participated so far!
Carmen
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Hey guys, here are the results to my little ranking survey. Unfortunately I wasn't able to get enough respondents in time to hand in my assignment in order to make all the variables statistically significant, however Building Management and Resource Management were both found to be significant (p < 0.05). It would seem that experts are agreeing that the most important concept is resource managament and the least important is building management. The other rankings are interesting to see but since they weren't found to be statistically significant, we can't really draw conclusions on them.
Thanks again to all who participated!
Categories Mean Rank
Building Management 3.76 Upgrading 4.76 Interface Management 4.94 Offense 6.18 Exploration 6.24 Defense 6.35 Recruitment 6.47 Thinking about the opponent 6.59 Resource Management 8.71
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yeah u cant organize... way too many factors its not even funny.
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also the race you play matters too
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On November 21 2009 10:11 MountainDewJunkie wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2009 09:34 Carmen wrote: Could you please sort the and rank the following concepts in order of importance they are to winning a Starcraft match, the first in the list or (1) being the most important and the last on the list (9) being the least important. I've put the concept name and then a very brief definition underneath. The concepts are below listed in no particular order.
Exploration Scanning or moving unit(s) to unexplored areas
Building Management Building repairing, moving buildings
Upgrading Upgrading or improving building or units
Thinking about the opponents strategy Mental state or possible strategic plans of the opponent(s)
Interface management The game interface, such as hot keys or group key assignments
Defense Defensive actions or plans
Offense Offensive actions or plans
Recruitment The recruitment of military units
Resources Management The recruitment of SCVs, assignment of SCV to extract resources, or the building of a gas extractor
Carmen This is retarded. What's more important: units, plans, hotkeys, or management? The answer is you need all of these in every game! You can't win if you don't *ahem* recruit military units. You can't win if you don't have a plan. You can maximize utility without upgrades and hotkeys. And you can't do anything if you don't manage the dough. Liken this to the human body: What's more important? Nevous system? The brain? The heart? Thumbs? Stupid. That that's with 5 O's.
i was about to say something very similar to this.
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1) 20 2) 10 years, hard to say how many hours. Probably around 3000. 3) Advanced (should be higher than Intermediate IMO). 4) Thinking about the opponents strategy Exploration Resource Management Recruitment Building Management Defense Offense Upgrading Interface Management
You are missing stuff like Harass (I guess this could be Offense but...)
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