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On November 09 2009 11:49 Headlines wrote:
I'm a student at a university that's ranked in the top twenty schools for alcoholism among its student population. I'm looking for a girl who's conservative, doesn't drink excessively, doesn't smoke, and wants to wait until marriage before having sexual intercourse.
If that's even possible, where would be some of the areas I should go to ante up my chances? Oh, and don't ask me to go to church to look for the ladies. I am a christian myself, but I don't follow any specific denomination, and I would feel tremendously uncomfortable in any church.
I'm also a commuter.
Thanks!~
Headlines:
Since you're in college, most of the women are not virgins. Are you talking about a woman who wants to wait until marriage before sex with YOU?
The only way to better your chances of finding someone right for you is actually putting yourself in the setting and getting close with females. When you first meet women, it is best not to be very serious or be extremely straightforward like they are from another planet. Most women want to be treated equally and enjoy themselves with you like you do with others.
You can go out to parties at your college to just experience things. You never know who you'll meet. A few months ago, my friend and I were going to a party that we felt was going to be pretttty lame, but my friend Josh says to me: "What if you meet your future wife tonight?" This convinced me to go. You just never know how things are going to be until you check it out for yourself. I ended up dating a girl I met there that night and I had a great time. Not everyone female goes to parties is a huge drinker or big slut.
You can meet girls wherever you go really. Say there is a place you go to often, a bank, coffee place, and there is someone you see that catches your attention. One day just spark up a conversation with her. Why not? There is no reason not to, and if you somehow get that subtle rejection like she really doesnt want to talk to you or something, then you could try it again with someone else or another time. If you really want to meet women and start socializing and dating, then you need to make attempts (practice) to get better or see progress.
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How do you approach single men? Do you ease them into the concept of your homosexuality and try to change their orientation through a prolonged friendship, or do you just spring the trap on them once you become a close friend?
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Any tips for avoiding being hit on by taxi drivers who are old enough to be your father? Also tips on looking less Russian/French and more advice on how to deal with handling hot stuff (aka. ForGG.) and potentially the attention of someone who resembles a zergling.
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Licmyobelisk:
This website seems like it jams being a "pick up artist" down your throat. This website does have some pretty bare content, but I cant really judge a book by its cover. I think someone can become better at dating if they put the hard work and effort into it on their own.
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On November 09 2009 12:17 keepITup wrote:
im currently in college and I've always had confidence issues with woman as I've never had or girlfriend or anything. i've had a couple of cases where a cute girl had a crush on me in highschool, but i managed to blow it because i'm terrible at making interesting conversations -- all i can do is be nice and listen, which doesn't work to well when the girl is just as quiet as you are.
i'd like to change that, but it's really hard to meet girls here except for the walking up to strangers approach. i have friends here,but the parties I go to really don't have girls I find attractive at all (and my standards aren't very high 0_o).
i just suck at being natural, basically. i'm not a socially broken person by any means, and i'm fairly goofy around good friends, but with girls I'm just terrible.
keepITup: You need to work on your insides. Make it a formal process to literally ask yourself your goals in life. Think carefully about things that you do that are counterintuitive to your goals. You need to take some time for yourself to think, and promise yourself to make a conscious effort on a daily basis to PRACTICE not doing those counterintuitive things. Take time every day to think about and PRACTICE things that will help you achieve your goals.
Think about what you have done, what went wrong, and the lessons you can learn and use from them. You are trying to talk to a girl so you try to be nice and listen. Is this how you talk to your friends? Is this how you really are when you are comfortable? Does this help you at all in creating attraction? Is this behavior just hurting your dating life?
You can turn it around and think "okay so being nice and trying to listen, which makes me seem tense, doesnt typically spark up a conversation with women. when I do this, they just get quiet."
Are you bad at conversation or are you bad at making people feel comfortable with talking to you?
Treat her like a normal person, joke around with her, tease her, and just try to be calm and go with the flow. The first times it may not be instant success, but you are getting experience and it WILL get better.
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what do you think girls think about guys dying their hair (strangers, or girls in variety of relationships with you)
ive found that girls prefer guys with plain natural coloured hair
but some girls also think that awesomely coloured hair is "cool" (as do we all). im talking something like that progamer with blue-white hair and disappointing loss (whats his name?)
but i dunno if that means they (might) find it "attractive" or if im "better off on the whole" keeping a plain dark brown
right now im comfortable with plain dark brown, but kinda wanna try blue dye, but just dont know how female friends (potential dates) would react. im not all acting party wild and shit just want blue hair.
anyway maybe you'd enjoy breaking this down into parts and making sense of it (i cba)
srsly issue guys
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On November 09 2009 15:56 biomedical wrote:
what do you think girls think about guys dying their hair (strangers, or girls in variety of relationships with you)
ive found that girls prefer guys with plain natural coloured hair
but some girls also think that awesomely coloured hair is "cool" (as do we all). im talking something like that progamer with blue-white hair and disappointing loss (whats his name?)
but i dunno if that means they (might) find it "attractive" or if im "better off on the whole" keeping a plain dark brown
right now im comfortable with plain dark brown, but kinda wanna try blue dye, but just dont know how female friends (potential dates) would react. im not all acting party wild and shit just want blue hair.
anyway maybe you'd enjoy breaking this down into parts and making sense of it (i cba)
srsly issue guys
I am so bored right now. This may or may not help your situation. Please bear in mind I do not represent the typical female perspective. This also may or may not have been an excuse to naver pictures of 민찬기.
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On November 09 2009 14:57 fanatacist wrote:
How do you approach single men? Do you ease them into the concept of your homosexuality and try to change their orientation through a prolonged friendship, or do you just spring the trap on them once you become a close friend?
Ultimately you can't change someone's orientation, just like you can't stop someone from trolling a thread that got created purely because they trolled the last one too hard.
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thats the guy i think. the guy on the left. whats his name, i watched him play and felt pretty bad for him. dunno why i feel bad for people all the time these days.
i think girls like shaven heads. i feel like you need to be pretty confident to shave your head, but maybe thats just me. i think my nose would stick out too much if i shaved my hair, and thats why i'd never do it. im sure if i was good looking it wouldnt mean much to me.
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On November 09 2009 11:54 resonance wrote:
You didn't answer what makes you an expert in attraction and relationship advice from the last thread. I am just curious b/c I could make my own thread and do the same thing even though I am just barely average when it comes to dealing with women.
Still waiting...
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On November 09 2009 16:18 resonance wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 11:54 resonance wrote:
You didn't answer what makes you an expert in attraction and relationship advice from the last thread. I am just curious b/c I could make my own thread and do the same thing even though I am just barely average when it comes to dealing with women. Still waiting...
god do we have to go through this again. Take his advice or dont, its that simple.
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On November 09 2009 16:08 Djabanete wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 14:57 fanatacist wrote:
How do you approach single men? Do you ease them into the concept of your homosexuality and try to change their orientation through a prolonged friendship, or do you just spring the trap on them once you become a close friend? Ultimately you can't change someone's orientation, just like you can't stop someone from trolling a thread that got created purely because they trolled the last one too hard.
Ultimately you can't change people who think you are trolling even when you are asking a serious question, even if it's not from your own perspective.
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On November 09 2009 16:18 resonance wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 11:54 resonance wrote:
You didn't answer what makes you an expert in attraction and relationship advice from the last thread. I am just curious b/c I could make my own thread and do the same thing even though I am just barely average when it comes to dealing with women. Still waiting...
please...who gives a shit. if people arent interested in thread content then they should stop posting in it and let it die. i dont want to read a bunch of whining and half-assed trollisms which go ON AND ON AND ON AND ON.
so many posters here are contempt brats who just use the forums as a playground so they can scorn things and pick fights with fucking EVERYTHING. they bicker and pick out faults and negatives without trying to understand the actual MEANING behind what someone posts and WHY they posted it.
everything is totally one dimensional to them. they dont ever look for the variety of meanings or uses/usefulnesses behind what a person posts.
when i posted something reasonably interesting in the "drink and drive" thread i was taken completely by surprise. i was attacked viciously by people who CLEARLY didnt understand my posts , OR the purpose of my posts. they were completely unable to analyse and think in a constructive manner. it was overwhelming, to the point that i didnt even bother to reply.
some people here wonder that the "quality of posting has gone downhill". well it has - a greater percentage of people used to make thoughtful CONSTRUCTIVE posts....now all i see is DESTRUCTIVE thoughtlessness and hostility.
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On November 09 2009 16:43 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 16:08 Djabanete wrote:On November 09 2009 14:57 fanatacist wrote:
How do you approach single men? Do you ease them into the concept of your homosexuality and try to change their orientation through a prolonged friendship, or do you just spring the trap on them once you become a close friend? Ultimately you can't change someone's orientation, just like you can't stop someone from trolling a thread that got created purely because they trolled the last one too hard. Ultimately you can't change people who think you are trolling even when you are asking a serious question, even if it's not from your own perspective.
God, you're good. Fortunately I already answered your "serious" question: you can't change someone's orientation.
Bringing this thread back on track: this isn't a request for advice, because there really isn't anything to be done, but I'll just complain about it because it's on-topic. I recently met a lovely young lady through a friend of mine, and saw her again at that friend's birthday party. There are a lot of things I like about her that I won't bother writing out because it would take a while and this isn't really the place. We had fun at the party, danced, and afterwards she graciously let me walk her a few blocks to her car, but she let me know that she was taken (by the insert "my boyfriend" into a sentence trick).
So... darn. ><
All I can do is keep living my life and hope for other opportunities, but I still feel a little sad about it. Not a lot, but a little.
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On November 09 2009 11:10 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 11:06 Archaic wrote:
I will hug the next person that spells "trolls" correctly. Hot_Bid?
made me actually LoL
+ Show Spoiler +league of legends that is O_O
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On November 09 2009 17:00 Djabanete wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 16:43 fanatacist wrote:On November 09 2009 16:08 Djabanete wrote:On November 09 2009 14:57 fanatacist wrote:
How do you approach single men? Do you ease them into the concept of your homosexuality and try to change their orientation through a prolonged friendship, or do you just spring the trap on them once you become a close friend? Ultimately you can't change someone's orientation, just like you can't stop someone from trolling a thread that got created purely because they trolled the last one too hard. Ultimately you can't change people who think you are trolling even when you are asking a serious question, even if it's not from your own perspective. God, you're good. Fortunately I already answered your "serious" question: you can't change someone's orientation.
Then how do people's orientations change on their own? Can't the same development be catalyzed by someone else? Why are you so sure?
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On November 09 2009 16:06 NeverGG wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 15:56 biomedical wrote:
what do you think girls think about guys dying their hair (strangers, or girls in variety of relationships with you)
ive found that girls prefer guys with plain natural coloured hair
but some girls also think that awesomely coloured hair is "cool" (as do we all). im talking something like that progamer with blue-white hair and disappointing loss (whats his name?)
but i dunno if that means they (might) find it "attractive" or if im "better off on the whole" keeping a plain dark brown
right now im comfortable with plain dark brown, but kinda wanna try blue dye, but just dont know how female friends (potential dates) would react. im not all acting party wild and shit just want blue hair.
anyway maybe you'd enjoy breaking this down into parts and making sense of it (i cba)
srsly issue guys I am so bored right now. This may or may not help your situation. Please bear in mind I do not represent the typical female perspective. This also may or may not have been an excuse to naver pictures of 민찬기.
what do you think about really ridiculous dyes? like  Jaehoon's new doo?
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On November 09 2009 16:55 biomedical wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 16:18 resonance wrote:On November 09 2009 11:54 resonance wrote:
You didn't answer what makes you an expert in attraction and relationship advice from the last thread. I am just curious b/c I could make my own thread and do the same thing even though I am just barely average when it comes to dealing with women. Still waiting... please...who gives a shit. if people arent interested in thread content then they should stop posting in it and let it die. i dont want to read a bunch of whining and half-assed trollisms which go ON AND ON AND ON AND ON. so many posters here are contempt brats who just use the forums as a playground so they can scorn things and pick fights with fucking EVERYTHING. they bicker and pick out faults and negatives without trying to understand the actual MEANING behind what someone posts and WHY they posted it. everything is totally one dimensional to them. they dont ever look for the variety of meanings or uses/usefulnesses behind what a person posts. when i posted something reasonably interesting in the "drink and drive" thread i was taken completely by surprise. i was attacked viciously by people who CLEARLY didnt understand my posts , OR the purpose of my posts. they were completely unable to analyse and think in a constructive manner. it was overwhelming, to the point that i didnt even bother to reply. some people here wonder that the "quality of posting has gone downhill". well it has - a greater percentage of people used to make thoughtful CONSTRUCTIVE posts....now all i see is DESTRUCTIVE thoughtlessness and hostility.
Yikes buddy calm down. Just because somebody offers dating advice it doesn't necessarily mean it's good. I just think it's funny that this guy is ignoring my questions asking what his credentials are in terms of what makes him a good candidate to give out dating advice.
Imo, it's a bit naive to take advice from some random person on the internet who really hasn't said anything about himself, so that is why I am asking him. Some of you guys are asking him these questions as if he is some sort of guru with women. If he is as good as he says he is, I don't see why it should be a problem for him to answer.
I am not trying to be an asshole or troll at all (or "DESTRUCTIVE" as you mentioned). Just because I am questioning this guy it doesn't necessarily mean I have bad intentions. I really do hope that this guy is the master that he claims to be because I would love to ask him some questions myself.
If he answered already though, I am pretty sure the last thread wouldn't have been such a mess.
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On November 09 2009 17:10 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 09 2009 17:00 Djabanete wrote:On November 09 2009 16:43 fanatacist wrote:On November 09 2009 16:08 Djabanete wrote:On November 09 2009 14:57 fanatacist wrote:
How do you approach single men? Do you ease them into the concept of your homosexuality and try to change their orientation through a prolonged friendship, or do you just spring the trap on them once you become a close friend? Ultimately you can't change someone's orientation, just like you can't stop someone from trolling a thread that got created purely because they trolled the last one too hard. Ultimately you can't change people who think you are trolling even when you are asking a serious question, even if it's not from your own perspective. God, you're good. Fortunately I already answered your "serious" question: you can't change someone's orientation. Then how do people's orientations change on their own? Can't the same development be catalyzed by someone else? Why are you so sure?
I don't pretend to be an expert on sexual orientation, but I do know that if a guy friend tried to "spring the trap" on me I'd be pretty pissed.
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On November 09 2009 17:19 resonance wrote:
Yikes buddy calm down. Just because somebody offers dating advice it doesn't necessarily mean it's good. I just think it's funny that this guy is ignoring my questions asking what his credentials are in terms of what makes him a good candidate to give out dating advice.
Imo, it's a bit naive to take advice from some random person on the internet who really hasn't said anything about himself, so that is why I am asking him. Some of you guys are asking him these questions as if he is some sort of guru with women. If he is as good as he says he is, I don't see why it should be a problem for him to answer.
some questions are better left unanswered. if his answers to real questions dont speak for him, then i dont know what will to you
what do you find are some good ways to get a girls #? what are some of the subtler signs that asking is appropriate?
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