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Valhalla18444 Posts
do you happen to have an opinion on this
cuz otherwise your OP is just a buncha news links and i'm gonna close it  discussion threads are awesome but you better open with discussion!
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I think this is interesting for people in the other threads who say that there isn't racism in korea.
also respect to this guy for taking this to court instead of just taking it like so many other people there seem to do.
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Apparently, this is the Indian version of "Rosa Parks"
What do you guys think? This indian alone is about to influence the government to pass anti-racism law, for the very first time.
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the way i hear it, racism is a pretty overt problem in east asian countries. its too bad.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
oh wtf theres no anti racism laws in skorea? o.o
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well these issues are relatively new to korea
such influx of foreigners is unprecedented
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
anti racism laws are just going to make koreans more racist as they are going to be forced to deal with all the offshore deadbeats and get even angrier
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rekrul do you hate yourself or something lol every post you make is an example of:
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On November 06 2009 12:53 d_so wrote:rekrul do you hate yourself or something lol every post you make is an example of:
HAHAahahhAHhahahA
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On November 06 2009 12:28 Rekrul wrote:
anti racism laws are just going to make koreans more racist as they are going to be forced to deal with all the offshore deadbeats and get even angrier
you probably didn't read the article. the article describes a white collar worker getting angry at a college professor, not an offshore deadbeat
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United States4796 Posts
On November 06 2009 12:28 Rekrul wrote:
anti racism laws are just going to make koreans more racist as they are going to be forced to deal with all the offshore deadbeats and get even angrier
Spoken like a true boss.
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On November 06 2009 14:13 Scias wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 12:28 Rekrul wrote:
anti racism laws are just going to make koreans more racist as they are going to be forced to deal with all the offshore deadbeats and get even angrier you probably didn't read the article. the article describes a white collar worker getting angry at a college professor, not an offshore deadbeat
so the anti racism laws are gonna specify that its ok to be racist against deadbeats?
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On November 06 2009 14:20 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 14:13 Scias wrote:On November 06 2009 12:28 Rekrul wrote:
anti racism laws are just going to make koreans more racist as they are going to be forced to deal with all the offshore deadbeats and get even angrier you probably didn't read the article. the article describes a white collar worker getting angry at a college professor, not an offshore deadbeat so the anti racism laws are gonna specify that its ok to be racist against deadbeats?
i didn't say or imply this
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Interesting article. The guy sounds really intelligent and I fully support what he is doing.
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If they're deadbeats, can't you find other ways to discriminate against them besides race? 
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either you did or you didnt mean to quote his post
if anti-racism laws apply to everyone theyre gonna have to deal with deadbeats even if it was a white collar worker who started it all.
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quoting his post was just meant to direct my reply to him. i'm not familiar with other ways to do that on this board.
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On November 06 2009 14:20 El.Divino wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 12:28 Rekrul wrote:
anti racism laws are just going to make koreans more racist as they are going to be forced to deal with all the offshore deadbeats and get even angrier Spoken like a true boss.
Spoken like a true groupie.
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On November 06 2009 14:32 Scias wrote:
quoting his post was just meant to direct my reply to him. i'm not familiar with other ways to do that on this board.
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obviously
im saying your reply was irrelevant to what he said so either you were wrong or you didnt mean to reply to him.
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On November 06 2009 12:53 d_so wrote:rekrul do you hate yourself or something lol every post you make is an example of:
This is the first case I've seen of the kettle calling the pot black.
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what rekrul said didn't make any sense lol
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On November 06 2009 14:43 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 14:32 Scias wrote:
quoting his post was just meant to direct my reply to him. i'm not familiar with other ways to do that on this board. ... obviously im saying your reply was irrelevant to what he said so either you were wrong or you didnt mean to reply to him.
I did mean to reply to him, obviously. Explain to me how I was "wrong."
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On November 06 2009 14:13 Scias wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 12:28 Rekrul wrote:
anti racism laws are just going to make koreans more racist as they are going to be forced to deal with all the offshore deadbeats and get even angrier you probably didn't read the article. the article describes a white collar worker getting angry at a college professor, not an offshore deadbeat
ok then it wasn't an example of racism, it was an example of stupidity
most dogs r friendly to cats but shit every once in a while theres that random dog that tries to eat every cat
should we mandate that all dogs must be trained from childhood to like kitty cats?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On November 06 2009 12:53 d_so wrote:rekrul do you hate yourself or something lol every post you make is an example of:
I define myself with who I am. Thats the problem with all these fucking foreigners coming to Korea thinking they are the shit and/or thinking they deserve special treatment. They are all fucking idiots.
If you make even a slight effort to understand Korean culture and learn their language Koreans will take you in and accept you far more willingly than even their own people. If anything the racism here is positive so give me a fucking break u god damn stupid english teachers (or college professors as is the case here rofl).
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Yep, wtf is up with those non korean speaking english teachers.
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On November 06 2009 16:37 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 12:53 d_so wrote:rekrul do you hate yourself or something lol every post you make is an example of: I define myself with who I am. Thats the problem with all these fucking foreigners coming to Korea thinking they are the shit and/or thinking they deserve special treatment. They are all fucking idiots. If you make even a slight effort to understand Korean culture and learn their language Koreans will take you in and accept you far more willingly than even their own people. If anything the racism here is positive so give me a fucking break u god damn stupid english teachers (or college professors as is the case here rofl).
The article never said he didn't speak Korean. And how do you know if this guy is arrogant?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
Convo with cab driver headed to US Embassy today:
와 한국말 진짜잘해요 -wow ur korean is good
-네 감사합니다 -TY
근데 미국에서 어디서 왔어요? -where in america did u come from?
-센디에이고요 -san diego
아 센디에이고! 거기 날씨가진짜좋고 부자들많고...부자이예요? -ah san diego! the weather there is really good and theres lots of rich people there...are you rich?
-아니예요 그냥 일반사람이예요 -no i'm just a normal person
그래? 부자 사람진짜 같애 -really? u look rich (WTF?)
-하하 아니예요 -haha no i'm not
Cab fare ended up being 12300. Gave him 20000 and got out without saying anything.
Someone's gotta defend the reputation of us non-koreans in korea against the idiocy of these english teachers. I personally believe I can take them all on myself.
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There is a difference between justified dislike of immigrants who expect special treatment and the random harassment of non-korean individuals.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
But anyways yes racism laws should be inplace to punish the few Koreans that are actually mind-fucked idiots (as there are these kinds of people at varying degrees in every country). I totally agree with this and am surprised Korea didn't have any lol.
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honestly, every person I hear from who goes to teach in japan or korea, loves to complain about any other foreigner they see.
i think being the odd one out in such places as those doesn't make you want to share the experience.
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rekrul ever thought of writing more about the insight on korean culture from westerner point of view? your random stories can teach a lot...
topic: the fact that the guy was Indian doesnt surprise me at all.... I think within the asian community (esp in states) there is a hierarchy towards who gets the most racist actions towards one another..
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Braavos36375 Posts
On November 06 2009 16:37 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 12:53 d_so wrote:rekrul do you hate yourself or something lol every post you make is an example of: I define myself with who I am. Thats the problem with all these fucking foreigners coming to Korea thinking they are the shit and/or thinking they deserve special treatment. They are all fucking idiots. If you make even a slight effort to understand Korean culture and learn their language Koreans will take you in and accept you far more willingly than even their own people. If anything the racism here is positive so give me a fucking break u god damn stupid english teachers (or college professors as is the case here rofl).
lol Rekrul you can't possibly lump "foreigners" all together, are you seriously saying Koreans treat white foreigners and non-white foreigners the same?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
well out of the racist koreans, there are definitely more koreans racist towards people from the countries with brown or dark skinned folks than towards whites so you're right but in general actually you'd be surprised at how equally the non racist koreans treat foreigners
and i dont think not wanting to associate with something you've never associated with before makes you a racist...which is the case for a lot of koreans...how the fuk u supposed to know if that thing bites or not?
overall koreans live in their little korean world and anything not from it is 'different' and no law is going to change that
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I hope these new laws will apply to Miari texas street workers, so huge black foreigners don't get denied there anymore and can dwell freely into Korean culture.
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Those white folks that Rekrul is talking about might think that Korean Hospitality is equivalent to Filipino Hospitality.. (we treat all the foreigners here like Kings, well except for the part that they get robbed or extorted)
Well, I heard that some poorer south east asian peeps has a curfew in their apartments? is this a fact? Like they need to be in their apartments within 6pm...
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As a Korean I gotta say racism in Korea is overstated in the above articles... During the Korean war our country formed close ties with the U.S. and other aid workers... Yes, it is true that non white foreigners are treated worse than white foreigners, but is America any better? In fact, is any country in the world any better in this aspect? (read gladwell's Blink. Black people are associated with negativeness due to the unfair history they have faced which paints them as a race with negative connotations). From the convos I have with my friends whenever we see a foreigner, my friends always seem to be at awe, and are more curious more than anything. They never say shitty derogatory stuff like "Look at that n*gg*r" or "Hey, you foreigner. Me first in line. Me korean". Fine, my friends and I prob don't represent the Korean population, but hey, there are always retarded racists everywhere.
If you see TV in Korea, nowadays there are a ton of news encouraging foreigners from poor countries (mostly from south-east asian countries, where many women come to marry korean men) to learn Korean properly and be more fully integrated to our society. People like Hines Ward the football player help constantly promote anti-racism in korea.
Honestly, from the several countries I've lived in, Korea is one of the less racist countries (fine, me being korean by race may have blinded me, but I maintain my point). I believe the U.S. is worse than Korea in terms of racism. Look up the centuries it took for America to wipe out racist laws... speaking of which, KOREA HAS NO RACIST LAWS. That's why we didn't have any anti-racist laws... cause it was never a major social issue.
/rant
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On November 06 2009 16:37 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2009 12:53 d_so wrote:rekrul do you hate yourself or something lol every post you make is an example of: If you make even a slight effort to understand Korean culture and learn their language Koreans will take you in and accept you far more willingly than even their own people.
I think this is probably accurate and true for many countries in the world. Don't go somewhere and act like an ignorant asshole and your fine
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Last Korean girl I dated told me how upset her ex-boyfriend was that she was now seeing a white person. As if it was a big shame and she told me like it was normal Koreans feel that way. That's at least the one time impression I got.
@win82 I think Korea has no racism laws, because they never had to deal with foreigners a lot before? I don't think there were a lot of Indian/Africans/Persians etc. in Korea before 1950. Why make a law for something that cannot exist.
Maybe the Koreans aren't racist, but they surely aren't hospitable. Going to Korea requires a little extra effort if you want to make it a pleasant experience.
Korea is still a great country which you can enjoy though. Great food and lots of people are nice nonetheless. Just don't be offended if someone ignores you, because you speak English^^ My trips to Korea were always great and I can not go further than left, right, thank you, in Korean.
I honestly don't know much about Korea to go further than assumptions. But I think Korean people appear to be rude/negative towards foreigners, because they feel uncomfortable dealing with them. They do not speak English properly and don't want to lose face. Could that be true, expert Rek?
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MrHoon
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On November 06 2009 21:42 {ToT}Strafe wrote:
I honestly don't know much about Korea to go further than assumptions. But I think Korean people appear to be rude/negative towards foreigners, because they feel uncomfortable dealing with them. They do not speak English properly and don't want to lose face. Could that be true, expert Rek?
this pretty much sums it up imo
But I think rekrul's personal experience is much more valuable than my words and opinions since I'm a Korean myself 
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i do agree 100% with rekrul. btw, here in brazil we do have laws about racism and shit, but it just doesnt work. imo laws about racism are retarded and should not exist.
also, if you are going to visit a new country, what about knowing about the culture of their people before? yet, why not learn a little bit of their language before hand? i dont mean you have to learn all the fucking grammar or shit, just the basic conversation that every language learning course teachs. You know, english isnt all that you have to know.
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It's true that law won't change much, but it is still needed incase incident like this happen again. Education is where they should start from.
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the thing is that I havent got this out of me but do you think stork was uncomfortable while playing at IEF because he has this attitude or because he was simply playing people way below his level... I mean I guess he didnt hide his discomfort... or I am just seeing things?
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Stork is someone who seems like he is always uncomfortable. Hell, there's a picture of him somewhere with his girlfriend and he's like hiding behind her.
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On November 07 2009 05:57 Nevuk wrote:
Stork is someone who seems like he is always uncomfortable. Hell, there's a picture of him somewhere with his girlfriend and he's like hiding behind her.
All WoW addicts are like that - take them away from their fix and their behaviour turns for the worst.
</obligatory Stork WoW joke>
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Indians get shat on a lot here in Australia. I've find that they are obnoxious, lacking in manners and generally a pain in the ass to deal with both personally and professionally.
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On November 06 2009 16:47 Rekrul wrote:
Convo with cab driver headed to US Embassy today:
와 한국말 진짜잘해요 -wow ur korean is good
-네 감사합니다 -TY
근데 미국에서 어디서 왔어요? -where in america did u come from?
-센디에이고요 -san diego
아 센디에이고! 거기 날씨가진짜좋고 부자들많고...부자이예요? -ah san diego! the weather there is really good and theres lots of rich people there...are you rich?
-아니예요 그냥 일반사람이예요 -no i'm just a normal person
그래? 부자 사람진짜 같애 -really? u look rich (WTF?)
-하하 아니예요 -haha no i'm not
Cab fare ended up being 12300. Gave him 20000 and got out without saying anything.
Someone's gotta defend the reputation of us non-koreans in korea against the idiocy of these english teachers. I personally believe I can take them all on myself.
Keep dropping tips like that and maybe you can buy acceptance for foreigners.
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for once i agree with everything rekrul said
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Sanya12364 Posts
Look, it's quite natural to feel uncomfortable around foreigners.
Most foreigners are not accustomed to local methods of reaching a common understanding. The lack of common understand can lead to some level of uneasiness or distrust.
There is nothing a law can do about this uneasiness or distrust. People, foreign and native, have to learn how to deal with each other and establish trust. It come from steadily increasing efforts from both sides to interact with each other.
A law against racism might force them to speed up this process but has some severe negative side effects. First of all, it removes some of the incentives for foreigners to achieve an understanding with the natives - any negative reaction to foreign culture would be "racism." Second of all, it pushes the two groups together before the two sides are ready for each other, and that risks developing misunderstanding that would take much longer to repair.
All in all, the law should stay out of what is largely a social problem.
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On November 06 2009 20:18 win8282 wrote:
As a Korean I gotta say racism in Korea is overstated in the above articles... During the Korean war our country formed close ties with the U.S. and other aid workers... Yes, it is true that non white foreigners are treated worse than white foreigners, but is America any better? In fact, is any country in the world any better in this aspect? (read gladwell's Blink. Black people are associated with negativeness due to the unfair history they have faced which paints them as a race with negative connotations). From the convos I have with my friends whenever we see a foreigner, my friends always seem to be at awe, and are more curious more than anything. They never say shitty derogatory stuff like "Look at that n*gg*r" or "Hey, you foreigner. Me first in line. Me korean". Fine, my friends and I prob don't represent the Korean population, but hey, there are always retarded racists everywhere.
If you see TV in Korea, nowadays there are a ton of news encouraging foreigners from poor countries (mostly from south-east asian countries, where many women come to marry korean men) to learn Korean properly and be more fully integrated to our society. People like Hines Ward the football player help constantly promote anti-racism in korea.
Honestly, from the several countries I've lived in, Korea is one of the less racist countries (fine, me being korean by race may have blinded me, but I maintain my point). I believe the U.S. is worse than Korea in terms of racism. Look up the centuries it took for America to wipe out racist laws... speaking of which, KOREA HAS NO RACIST LAWS. That's why we didn't have any anti-racist laws... cause it was never a major social issue.
/rant
there were no racist laws because there was probably no other sizable visually-perceptible ethic minorities in korea.
I think rekrul and other people are also focusing strongly on the way that white people are treated, which around the world is usually quite positive. For non-white people though I think these countries can be quite racist.
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On November 07 2009 06:18 haduken wrote:
Indians get shat on a lot here in Australia. I've find that they are obnoxious, lacking in manners and generally a pain in the ass to deal with both personally and professionally.
I think that if you said this about korean people you would have gotten banned.
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On November 07 2009 07:49 himurakenshin wrote:
I think that if you said this about korean people you would have gotten banned.
At least, koreans dont act like cheap bastards.
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so in this thread so far:
- haduken finds that Indians are obnoxious, lacking in manners and generally a pain in the ass to deal with both personally and professionally.
- kaizen says that Indians act like cheap bastards.
i'd say there is a lot of racism in this thread
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oh LOL thank you thank you ^^ haha
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On November 07 2009 08:09 Mobius wrote:oh LOL thank you thank you ^^ haha
np 
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On November 07 2009 08:00 himurakenshin wrote:i'd say there is a lot of racism in this thread
more like realism.
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On November 07 2009 08:47 kaizenmx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 08:00 himurakenshin wrote:i'd say there is a lot of racism in this thread more like realism.
saying that black people are stupid, lazy and uneducated is realism right?
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Well, I think this is a nice development. Although personally, I don't think much of racists in countries with generally a homogeneous population. It just comes with the territory. And the only way to solve them is through global trading and more interaction. Because only understanding can bridge the gap between cultures.
You can see the difference, as Americans are generally the most tolerant people when it comes to racial or ethnic discrimination.
On November 07 2009 07:50 kaizenmx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 07:49 himurakenshin wrote:
I think that if you said this about korean people you would have gotten banned. At least, koreans dont act like cheap bastards.
So, what do you think about Jews?
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On November 07 2009 07:49 himurakenshin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 06:18 haduken wrote:
Indians get shat on a lot here in Australia. I've find that they are obnoxious, lacking in manners and generally a pain in the ass to deal with both personally and professionally. I think that if you said this about korean people you would have gotten banned.
Well, Allot of Chinese say the same thing about Koreans. However, It is not what I find in my observations and I interact with different races all the time.
1. Arabs will always try to push you around.
2. White people always ask which part of China you are from. (Sif they would know if I tell them)
3. Italians and Greeks will always judge you base on the label of your clothes.
4. Indians will always try to act like they are better than you until you prove them wrong, they would waste hours of your time asking stupid questions and cut in on other conversations like they own the place. I dunno, maybe they just don't have a thing called courtesy in India.
5. Asians can be classified in 4 groups, the Chinese, the South East Asians, Korean/Japanese and the bananas who aren't really asian except the skincolour. Koreans and Japanese always bow when you go near them and take all the effort to make everything conformtable for you.
We don't have enough black people here for me to make a conclusion, the African refugees that you see on trains would get high and drunk and playback rap songs on their shitty cellphones.
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Indian girls are hot. <= my poor contribution to thread. And I actually find racism easier to deal with in homogenous areas than non simply because most of the racism from the former is just ignorance rather than outright prejudice, which is easily remedied once they get to know you.
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On November 07 2009 12:59 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 07:49 himurakenshin wrote:On November 07 2009 06:18 haduken wrote:
Indians get shat on a lot here in Australia. I've find that they are obnoxious, lacking in manners and generally a pain in the ass to deal with both personally and professionally. I think that if you said this about korean people you would have gotten banned. Well, Allot of Chinese say the same thing about Koreans. However, It is not what I find in my observations and I interact with different races all the time. 1. Arabs will always try to push you around. 2. White people always ask which part of China you are from. (Sif they would know if I tell them) 3. Italians and Greeks will always judge you base on the label of your clothes. 4. Indians will always try to act like they are better than you until you prove them wrong, they would waste hours of your time asking stupid questions and cut in on other conversations like they own the place. I dunno, maybe they just don't have a thing called courtesy in India. 5. Asians can be classified in 4 groups, the Chinese, the South East Asians, Korean/Japanese and the bananas who aren't really asian except the skincolour. Koreans and Japanese always bow when you go near them and take all the effort to make everything conformtable for you. We don't have enough black people here for me to make a conclusion, the African refugees that you see on trains would get high and drunk and playback rap songs on their shitty cellphones.
I'm Italian and I have to say that that's the first time I've ever heard that particular claim.
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^ lol yeah, that's the thing. I've interacted with all those groups, and I haven't had Arabs push me around, Italians or Greeks judge me on what i'm wearing, Indians cut me off in conversation or have Korean or Japanese people bow to me (I'm talking Canadian ones). My bet is that the problem lies with haduken. His location is set to China even though he lives in Australia and I have no clue what his quote means. Last time I checked, this forum was English-speaking. Just based on that alone, I could imagine him being one of the arrogant, obnoxious people he describes.
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lol, okay. You are right.
My previous post was just my personal observation, take it how you like it.
I don't know how multicultural Canada is but It is a sad day when you can't just rant on other people and not get bandwagoned.
His location is set to China even though he lives in Australia and I have no clue what his quote means. Last time I checked, this forum was English-speaking. Just based on that alone, I could imagine him being one of the arrogant, obnoxious people he describes.
What the hell does my location have to do with anything? You my friend have a very interesting sense of logic.
As for my quote, I wrote that during Beijing Olympics when it was trendy to put that in all your online profiles (for Chinese anyway.)
I don't maintain my TL account these days, if you are so put off by a few random characters, I will go change it. How about you tell all progaming followers to do the same?
Seriously, if you disagree with me then just say that, your attempt to personal attacking me was lame.
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Most Koreans will treat you nicely, but they still just see you as nothing more than a 외국인 (foreigner) and below them. The one's that have been exposed to quality foreigners learn that we are actually good people. As Rekrul pointed out, a lot of the fools that do come down to Korea, do nothing but tarnish the image of Westerners. Many simply have no respect for the culture, make no attempt to learn the language and are arrogant themselves in thinking that Western culture is vastly superior to Korean culture / thinking (Sorry guys this ain't the case). At least Koreans respect their elders and show respect to one another. We could learn a lot from them in this regard.
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On November 07 2009 14:01 haduken wrote:lol, okay. You are right. My previous post was just my personal observation, take it how you like it. I don't know how multicultural Canada is but It is a sad day when you can't just rant on other people and not get bandwagoned. Show nested quote +
His location is set to China even though he lives in Australia and I have no clue what his quote means. Last time I checked, this forum was English-speaking. Just based on that alone, I could imagine him being one of the arrogant, obnoxious people he describes.
What the hell does my location have to do with anything? You my friend have a very interesting sense of logic. As for my quote, I wrote that during Beijing Olympics when it was trendy to put that in all your online profiles (for Chinese anyway.) I don't maintain my TL account these days, if you are so put off by a few random characters, I will go change it. How about you tell all progaming followers to do the same? Seriously, if you disagree with me then just say that, your attempt to personal attacking me was lame.
It wasn't a personal attack, but like you admitted, your quote was something popular written which only Chinese people understand, and despite living in Australia, you take the location area as something to reference being Chinese.
I brought it up because I remember in highschool one our teachers brought up the fact that there are some stores owned by Chinese people which have Chinese letters written only or when they do have English translations of the store name, it is in small font at the bottom. Her issue was that if they want to immigrate to Canada, they should embrace where they are living and not try and distance themselves in such ways, or at least allow the majority of the populution to read what they are selling. They should have the name of their stores in English, and have Chinese letters in small font at the bottom. A lot of the asian students were mad with her saying this but I really saw no issue with it. It made sense.
You are free to do whatever you want with your location, but based on your quote and your location designation, I would assume that 99% of your friends are Chinese, you form cliques with other Chinese people and have absolutely no credibility in any of your claims regarding other races. Why? Because you, like a lot of the people my highschool people described, distance themselves from other people and only associate yourself with one kind. Obviously I'm assuming a lot of things, but I'd imagine I'm more likely right than wrong. If you actually had friends outside your racial boundaries, I'm sure your post wouldn't be so blatantly racist.
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On November 07 2009 12:59 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 07:49 himurakenshin wrote:On November 07 2009 06:18 haduken wrote:
Indians get shat on a lot here in Australia. I've find that they are obnoxious, lacking in manners and generally a pain in the ass to deal with both personally and professionally. I think that if you said this about korean people you would have gotten banned. Well, Allot of Chinese say the same thing about Koreans. However, It is not what I find in my observations and I interact with different races all the time. 1. Arabs will always try to push you around. 2. White people always ask which part of China you are from. (Sif they would know if I tell them) 3. Italians and Greeks will always judge you base on the label of your clothes. 4. Indians will always try to act like they are better than you until you prove them wrong, they would waste hours of your time asking stupid questions and cut in on other conversations like they own the place. I dunno, maybe they just don't have a thing called courtesy in India. 5. Asians can be classified in 4 groups, the Chinese, the South East Asians, Korean/Japanese and the bananas who aren't really asian except the skincolour. Koreans and Japanese always bow when you go near them and take all the effort to make everything conformtable for you. We don't have enough black people here for me to make a conclusion, the African refugees that you see on trains would get high and drunk and playback rap songs on their shitty cellphones.
theres heaps of drunk blacks at redfern station
indians waste my time with their telemarketing about holidays and furniture
ouch didnt know that about italians and greeks. i buy all my shirts for like 5 bucks each so they probably dont think too highly of me
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On November 07 2009 14:45 Masamune wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 14:01 haduken wrote:lol, okay. You are right. My previous post was just my personal observation, take it how you like it. I don't know how multicultural Canada is but It is a sad day when you can't just rant on other people and not get bandwagoned.
His location is set to China even though he lives in Australia and I have no clue what his quote means. Last time I checked, this forum was English-speaking. Just based on that alone, I could imagine him being one of the arrogant, obnoxious people he describes.
What the hell does my location have to do with anything? You my friend have a very interesting sense of logic. As for my quote, I wrote that during Beijing Olympics when it was trendy to put that in all your online profiles (for Chinese anyway.) I don't maintain my TL account these days, if you are so put off by a few random characters, I will go change it. How about you tell all progaming followers to do the same? Seriously, if you disagree with me then just say that, your attempt to personal attacking me was lame. It wasn't a personal attack, but like you admitted, your quote was something popular written which only Chinese people understand, and despite living in Australia, you take the location area as something to reference being Chinese. I brought it up because I remember in highschool one our teachers brought up the fact that there are some stores owned by Chinese people which have Chinese letters written only or when they do have English translations of the store name, it is in small font at the bottom. Her issue was that if they want to immigrate to Canada, they should embrace where they are living and not try and distance themselves in such ways, or at least allow the majority of the populution to read what they are selling. They should have the name of their stores in English, and have Chinese letters in small font at the bottom. A lot of the asian students were mad with her saying this but I really saw no issue with it. It made sense. You are free to do whatever you want with your location, but based on your quote and your location designation, I would assume that 99% of your friends are Chinese, you form cliques with other Chinese people and have absolutely no credibility in any of your claims regarding other races. Why? Because you, like a lot of the people my highschool people described, distance themselves from other people and only associate yourself with one kind. Obviously I'm assuming a lot of things, but I'd imagine I'm more likely right than wrong. If you actually had friends outside your racial boundaries, I'm sure your post wouldn't be so blatantly racist.
he can set his location to whatever he likes, he can be proud of being chinese, he can put chinese lettering on his shop if he wants to man. leave it alone?
maybe you should stop making so many assumptions. id be more inclined to listen to his anyway, considering he actually lives in australia
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get bandwagoned Uh? I just have never heard that about my 'people' if you'll call them that.
Defensive much?
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Lots of oversimplifications in this thread.
Korea is a very complex country in that it has both a superiority and inferiority complex, leading to a wide array of attitudes in its population. Generally, as pretty much anywhere in the world, Koreans will treat you differently based on your ethnicity, sex and Korean ability, and slightly differently again based on height and looks, and differently again based on the interests and education of the Korean person who does the judgement. Another factor to consider is the fact that few countries in the world are as fast-paced as Korea; when talking about 'Koreans', I find it necessary to clarify which age group we're talking about -- 50-something Koreans have grown up in a different country than have 20-somethings. Some of them adore foreigners, some are uncomfortable with them, some find them downright scary or detestable -- the only thing that I find they all have in common, and the one generalization that I always find to be true no matter what is that all of them, no matter where on the foreigner appreciation spectrum they fall, treat foreigners differently from how they treat fellow Koreans.
When a Korean moves to America and learns English to proficiency, then before long people are going to view him/her as American. As a white person, you can have lived in Korea for decades, have a Korean wife/husband, and speak impeccable Korean, but you are always going to be a foreigner. If you're white and good-looking and functionable in Korean, there will be no shortage of Koreans eager to befriend you, but the downer will come when they inevitably ask, "So, how long are you going to be here for?"
To a lot of Koreans, 'Korean' isn't a nationality -- it's a race. The government doesn't even try to hide it: foreigners with Korean blood have access to a special Korean ethnicity visa, regardless of if they speak a word of Korean or understand anything about Korean culture or not. A Korean adoptee who has grown up with white parents and watches Sex and the City and wears A&F is going to be more Korean to them than any white person with a Ph.D in Korean Studies.
Being a guest in Korea has its advantages and disadvantages, but that's what you're going to be in their eyes -- a guest. Unwelcome or not.
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On November 07 2009 14:55 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 14:45 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 14:01 haduken wrote:lol, okay. You are right. My previous post was just my personal observation, take it how you like it. I don't know how multicultural Canada is but It is a sad day when you can't just rant on other people and not get bandwagoned.
His location is set to China even though he lives in Australia and I have no clue what his quote means. Last time I checked, this forum was English-speaking. Just based on that alone, I could imagine him being one of the arrogant, obnoxious people he describes.
What the hell does my location have to do with anything? You my friend have a very interesting sense of logic. As for my quote, I wrote that during Beijing Olympics when it was trendy to put that in all your online profiles (for Chinese anyway.) I don't maintain my TL account these days, if you are so put off by a few random characters, I will go change it. How about you tell all progaming followers to do the same? Seriously, if you disagree with me then just say that, your attempt to personal attacking me was lame. It wasn't a personal attack, but like you admitted, your quote was something popular written which only Chinese people understand, and despite living in Australia, you take the location area as something to reference being Chinese. I brought it up because I remember in highschool one our teachers brought up the fact that there are some stores owned by Chinese people which have Chinese letters written only or when they do have English translations of the store name, it is in small font at the bottom. Her issue was that if they want to immigrate to Canada, they should embrace where they are living and not try and distance themselves in such ways, or at least allow the majority of the populution to read what they are selling. They should have the name of their stores in English, and have Chinese letters in small font at the bottom. A lot of the asian students were mad with her saying this but I really saw no issue with it. It made sense. You are free to do whatever you want with your location, but based on your quote and your location designation, I would assume that 99% of your friends are Chinese, you form cliques with other Chinese people and have absolutely no credibility in any of your claims regarding other races. Why? Because you, like a lot of the people my highschool people described, distance themselves from other people and only associate yourself with one kind. Obviously I'm assuming a lot of things, but I'd imagine I'm more likely right than wrong. If you actually had friends outside your racial boundaries, I'm sure your post wouldn't be so blatantly racist. he can set his location to whatever he likes, he can be proud of being chinese, he can put chinese lettering on his shop if he wants to man. leave it alone? maybe you should stop making so many assumptions. id be more inclined to listen to his anyway, considering he actually lives in australia
He can set it to whatever he likes, I don't care. But when you affiliate your location as being something to state who you are and when your quote is written so that only a certain group can read it, you probably associate more with people of your own group and probably don't know what your talking about when you make generalizations about other people. That's what I was getting at. Australia is similar to Canada in terms of multiculturalism, if anything, I'd argue Canada has more. The racial groups he described are not only found in Australia either, they are present here in Canada so my opinions are just as valid as his. I doubt black people act differently based on which hemisphere they live on...
About the lettering with his shop, sure if you come to a country where Chinese isn't the main language and put that on your shop, but have the common courtesy to at least keep the title in that country's main language. There is nothing hard about having your business title in English and having the same title in Chinese at the bottom. If anything, you will be reaching out to more people that way.
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theres different types of black people, so id probably say they do?
indigenous australians are a bit different to people of african background here
he's just proud of his heritage, i think its a far stretch to say he sticks to chinese people and shuns non-chinese
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He said African refugees, Canada has them too
I made assumptions like he did, except mine are probably more right.
He may not shun them, but he probably doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
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he said black people at the start, and i was talking about a certain kind of black people (aborigines)
i think the problem is assuming shit in the first place
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Aborigines of Australia are not black.
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they looked pretty black to me last time i saw em
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But they aren't. I guess that goes to show that despite me not having ever stepped foot in Australia, I know more about one aspect than you do?
I'm pretty sure you live in Australia too.
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I brought it up because I remember in highschool one our teachers brought up the fact that there are some stores owned by Chinese people which have Chinese letters written only or when they do have English translations of the store name, it is in small font at the bottom. Her issue was that if they want to immigrate to Canada, they should embrace where they are living and not try and distance themselves in such ways, or at least allow the majority of the populution to read what they are selling. They should have the name of their stores in English, and have Chinese letters in small font at the bottom. A lot of the asian students were mad with her saying this but I really saw no issue with it. It made sense.
I don't see how this is relevant. FYI, Pauline Hanson was an Australian fish'n'chips owner who became a politician said the same thing about Asian signs. She was crucified for her view (not just about the signs). So I do know a little bit about what you are saying.
You are free to do whatever you want with your location, but based on your quote and your location designation, I would assume that 99% of your friends are Chinese, you form cliques with other Chinese people and have absolutely no credibility in any of your claims regarding other races. Why? Because you, like a lot of the people my highschool people described, distance themselves from other people and only associate yourself with one kind. Obviously I'm assuming a lot of things, but I'd imagine I'm more likely right than wrong. If you actually had friends outside your racial boundaries, I'm sure your post wouldn't be so blatantly racist.
I wasn't brought up in a Western country (Which explains my location) so I don't think it is outside the norm to have friends and relatives that are the same race as me. It doesn't mean that I don't interact with other groups, as a matter of fact I have to in a multicultural society.
So, I don't see the merits of your arguments sorry, Indian, Chinese, Whites, Blacks, Brown all associate with people of their own race more than other groups. This is a statistical fact.
So please, don't tell me to miggle with other people, I've heard enough of that line to know that it's the standard retort/response from people who don't know anything about racial relations.
If we go by your standard then how can anyone be so credible on judging inter-racical relations? We can be one race and one race only. All we can really put forth is our own personal observation, don't sweat it, you don't see me posting everytime some one diss Chinese do you? (Well, I used to but that was like 5 years ago)
Now that you've mentioned it, I'm sure that my previous posts appeared to be racist but how about you define racism to me?
Tell me what is and when is it okay to saying something about a racial group and not come off as blatantly racist. Why is it that I can't rant about another racial group and not get blasted for what it is (A RANT), you don't see me calling Indian names do you? or did I say that I go around and punch Indians in the face because they are brown?
Or can I just say that Lebanese guys go around bashing people and up to no good? Or that Indians are not very courteous and considerate when interacting with other people? Hey, maybe I am stereotyping and I'm sure not all Indians are like that but the fact remains that majority of them do because that's their way, maybe they have a different kind of politness, I will never know.
Look, I don't know what ethnicity you are so I will just say this: people complain about people that are different to them, go on and label me a racist, how appriopriate is it to do so in a thread about racism. Or maybe you should see the fact that everyone is a little bit racist and not retort with political correctness everytime something happens.
Which way is better? pretend that everything is okay and force people to have this utopian idea of inter-racial harmony or let people rant and work issues out? you tell me.
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On November 07 2009 15:27 Masamune wrote:
But they aren't. I guess that goes to show that despite me not having ever stepped foot in Australia, I know more about one aspect than you do?
I'm pretty sure you live in Australia too.
all he said was black. in australia, aborigines are often referred to as black, as we dont really have africans here, they are like the african americans of australia
oh yeah im australian
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On November 07 2009 15:27 Masamune wrote:
But they aren't. I guess that goes to show that despite me not having ever stepped foot in Australia, I know more about one aspect than you do?
I'm pretty sure you live in Australia too.
Aborigininals are genetically Polynesians whose skin colour are predominately black/brown. A lot of people who claim Aboriginal descent have Euroepean heritage as well but the people who are identified the most as Aborigines do have black/brown skin colour.
So I don't know what you are on about, I didn't say anything about Aborigines in my previous posts.
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how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.
LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich?
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On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.
LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich?
how many non kazakh friends do you have?
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On November 07 2009 15:41 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.
LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich? how many non kazach friends do you have?
I dont have a single Kazakhstani friend. I saw Borat does that count?
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On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.
LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich?
I have 3 high school people who I consider as friends on a personal level. One is Romanian, one is a local Caucasian Australian who traces 4 generation in Australia and one who is like half Irish and half maurtian Indian. 2 are tall and one is short and one of them is a girl, Is that varied enough for you?
I have about 3 people who are either Chinese by descent or culturally Chinese whom I consider as friends. I also have 10 million cousins in China who eat nothing but rice and all they ever talk about is getting rich by ripping off old people.
Should I have more friends? Is that what you are getting at? That I am social handicapped because I have so few "friends" and thus don't know what the fuck I'm talking about?
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On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.
LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich?
You make it seem as if I lost in that encounter instead of winning.
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On November 07 2009 15:48 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.
LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich? I have 3 high school people who I consider as friends on a personal level. One is Romanian, one is a local Caucasian Australian who traces 4 generation in Australia and one who is like half Irish and half maurtian Indian. 2 are tall and one is short and one of them is a girl, Is that varied enough for you? I have about 3 people who are either Chinese by descent or culturally Chinese whom I consider as friends. Should I have more friends? Is that what you are getting at? That I am social handicapped because I have so few "friends" and thus don't know what the fuck I'm talking about?
i was just curious because when you were asked the question you deflected it in your reply without answering it.
also, it seems to me that you are projecting your insecurity about being socially handicapped to me. that fact that you brought those questions up and became extremely defensive over a question leads me to believe you have deeper issues you need to resolve.
do you regularly lack self-confidence and it is something brought on by your parents or self?
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On November 07 2009 15:50 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.
LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich? You make it seem as if I lost in that encounter instead of winning.
both sides win in that situation. you feel better about yourself and your prospect in a foreign country and the taxi driver goes home with a little more money to feed his family. however, you need to consider that it could be possible that the taxi driver might not be the most accurate indicator of korean feelings toward foreigners considering he stands to gain from complimenting you.
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On November 07 2009 15:54 PrideNeverDies wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 15:48 haduken wrote:On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.
LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich? I have 3 high school people who I consider as friends on a personal level. One is Romanian, one is a local Caucasian Australian who traces 4 generation in Australia and one who is like half Irish and half maurtian Indian. 2 are tall and one is short and one of them is a girl, Is that varied enough for you? I have about 3 people who are either Chinese by descent or culturally Chinese whom I consider as friends. Should I have more friends? Is that what you are getting at? That I am social handicapped because I have so few "friends" and thus don't know what the fuck I'm talking about? i was just curious because when you were asked the question you deflected it in your reply without answering it. also, it seems to me that you are projecting your insecurity about being socially handicapped to me. that fact that you brought those questions up and became extremely defensive over a question leads me to believe you have deeper issues you need to resolve. do you regularly lack self-confidence and it is something brought on by your parents or self?
oh god shut the fuck up
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On November 07 2009 15:56 PrideNeverDies wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 15:50 Rekrul wrote:On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.
LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich? You make it seem as if I lost in that encounter instead of winning. both sides win in that situation. you feel better about yourself and your prospect in a foreign country and the taxi driver goes home with a little more money to feed his family. however, you need to consider that it could be possible that the taxi driver might not be the most accurate indicator of korean feelings toward foreigners considering he stands to gain from complimenting you.
you realize tipping almost never happens in korea especially in cabs and especially by the white folk cuz they all broke?
no, you dont
el oh el
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i was just curious because when you were asked the question you deflected it in your reply without answering it.
also, it seems to me that you are projecting your insecurity about being socially handicapped to me. that fact that you brought those questions up and became extremely defensive over a question leads me to believe you have deeper issues you need to resolve.
do you regularly lack self-confidence and it is something brought on by your parents or self?
Maybe I do，maybe I don't, maybe I think that everyone should have a little insecurity in themselves so they can go on to be better human beings.
How am I suppose to judge that you want an answer instead of interpreting it as anything but a lame teenager retort.
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I don't see how this is relevant. FYI, Pauline Hanson was an Australian fish'n'chips owner who became a politician said the same thing about Asian signs. She was crucified for her view (not just about the signs). So I do know a little bit about what you are saying.
I don’t know who this person is, but whatever the language, if you come to Canada, make sure the main sign is in English and/or French because that is the national language here. I’d imagine that is how it should be done anywhere else. There isn’t a problem with writing something in your native language, just make sure that English and/or French is included and is what is the most visible (or equally visible at the least).
I wasn't brought up in a Western country (Which explains my location) so I don't think it is outside the norm to have friends and relatives that are the same race as me. It doesn't mean that I don't interact with other groups, as a matter of fact I have to in a multicultural society.
So, I don't see the merits of your arguments sorry, Indian, Chinese, Whites, Blacks, Brown all associate with people of their own race more than other groups. This is a statistical fact.
So please, don't tell me to miggle with other people, I've heard enough of that line to know that it's the standard retort/response from people who don't know anything about racial relations.
There is a difference between interacting with people by having to serve them (customer service at Walmart, for example) and actually being friends with them and learning about their culture. I went to Manchu Wok today, does that mean that all of a sudden I have this in-depth understanding of Asian culture because I spoke to the cashier?
As for having more friends (lets not talk about relatives being more of your own race...isn’t that a given?) of your own race, sure, I’m not saying it should be equal. However, based on the way you categorized all those groups in your earlier post, and by the cues I get from your profile alone, I can tell that you were one of those FOB Chinese kids at my highschool who never associated with anyone else but other FOBs. So you probably don't even know other races well enough to pass credible judgement on them. Just because your teacher was Polish doesn’t mean that all of a sudden you understand the racial dynamics of Slavic people, wtf.
If we go by your standard then how can anyone be so credible on judging inter-racical relations? We can be one race and one race only. All we can really put forth is our own personal observation, don't sweat it, you don't see me posting everytime some one diss Chinese do you? (Well, I used to but that was like 5 years ago)[/qutoe]
Yes, no one can be 100% accurate in judging inter-racial relations, but you certainly can be 0%. You’re more closer to the latter, and that’s probably because your personal observation has no value whatsoever because I honestly believe you do not know very many people on a personal, positive relation, outside of your own race.
Now that you've mentioned it, I'm sure that my previous posts appeared to be racist but how about you define racism to me?
Tell me what is and when is it okay to saying something about a racial group and not come off as blatantly racist. Why is it that I can't rant about another racial group and not get blasted for what it is (A RANT), you don't see me calling Indian names do you? or did I say that I go around and punch Indians in the face because they are brown?
Or can I just say that Lebanese guys go around bashing people and up to no good? Or that Indians are not very courteous and considerate when interacting with other people? Hey, maybe I am stereotyping and I'm sure not all Indians are like that but the fact remains that majority of them do because that's their way, maybe they have a different kind of politness, I will never know.
You clearly have no clue what racism is. Maybe you should hop on that boat and paddle back to China. Oh, and make sure to pick up some soap on the way back, because whenever I sit next to Chinese people on the bus, they stink. Hey, maybe I am stereotyping and I'm sure not all Chinese are like that but the fact remains that majority of them do because that's their way, maybe they have a different kind of cleanliness, I will never know. I heard Dove is good for your skin.
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On November 07 2009 15:58 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 15:56 PrideNeverDies wrote:On November 07 2009 15:50 Rekrul wrote:On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.
LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich? You make it seem as if I lost in that encounter instead of winning. both sides win in that situation. you feel better about yourself and your prospect in a foreign country and the taxi driver goes home with a little more money to feed his family. however, you need to consider that it could be possible that the taxi driver might not be the most accurate indicator of korean feelings toward foreigners considering he stands to gain from complimenting you. you realize tipping almost never happens in korea especially in cabs and especially by the white folk cuz they all broke? no, you dont el oh el
but you are "rich." if he had just stuck to complimenting your willingness to learn Korean, he might have been genuine. however the fact that he tried to emphasize that you were rich even though you obviously didn't think you looked the part, makes it seem more realistic you fell for some marketing 101.
hey guys a Korean taxidriver thinks rekrul is a good foreigner, therefore all Koreans must like all foreigners.
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their language is also annoying as fuck and they dont know how to walk straight
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pauline hanson was crucified for more than just her sign policies
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On November 07 2009 16:02 PrideNeverDies wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 15:58 Rekrul wrote:On November 07 2009 15:56 PrideNeverDies wrote:On November 07 2009 15:50 Rekrul wrote:On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.
LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich? You make it seem as if I lost in that encounter instead of winning. both sides win in that situation. you feel better about yourself and your prospect in a foreign country and the taxi driver goes home with a little more money to feed his family. however, you need to consider that it could be possible that the taxi driver might not be the most accurate indicator of korean feelings toward foreigners considering he stands to gain from complimenting you. you realize tipping almost never happens in korea especially in cabs and especially by the white folk cuz they all broke? no, you dont el oh el but you are "rich." if he had just stuck to complimenting your willingness to learn Korean, he might have been genuine. however the fact that he tried to emphasize that you were rich even though you obviously didn't think you looked the part, makes it seem more realistic you fell for some marketing 101. hey guys a Korean taxidriver thinks rekrul is a good foreigner, therefore all Koreans must like all foreigners.
i never had any willingness to learn korean i'm just a natural linguistic genius
and fyi, rich people tip less, thats why they are rich. rich ppl r usually the biggest of jews
pun intended
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On November 07 2009 15:35 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 15:27 Masamune wrote:
But they aren't. I guess that goes to show that despite me not having ever stepped foot in Australia, I know more about one aspect than you do?
I'm pretty sure you live in Australia too. Aborigininals are genetically Polynesians whose skin colour are predominately black/brown. A lot of people who claim Aboriginal descent have Euroepean heritage as well but the people who are identified the most as Aborigines do have black/brown skin colour. So I don't know what you are on about, I didn't say anything about Aborigines in my previous posts.
Australian Aborigines are not black in the sense of what people in the wold consider to be black (tracing their recent origin back to Africa). I didn't recall you talking about Aborigines either, but apparently JohnColtrane did, so I addressed him.
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On November 07 2009 16:06 JohnColtrane wrote:pauline hanson was crucified for more than just her sign policies
That's what I thought, because crucifying someone politcally for stating that the signs of a shop should include the native language is stupid. Nice example haduken.
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well she was pretty much anti-asian
but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger
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On November 07 2009 16:09 JohnColtrane wrote:
well she was pretty much anti-asian
but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger
lololol
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On November 07 2009 16:01 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +i was just curious because when you were asked the question you deflected it in your reply without answering it.
also, it seems to me that you are projecting your insecurity about being socially handicapped to me. that fact that you brought those questions up and became extremely defensive over a question leads me to believe you have deeper issues you need to resolve.
do you regularly lack self-confidence and it is something brought on by your parents or self? Maybe I do，maybe I don't, maybe I think that everyone should have a little insecurity in themselves so they can go on to be better human beings. How am I suppose to judge that you want an answer instead of interpreting it as anything but a lame teenager retort.
insecurity could be a strong driving force toward success, but lacking confidence in social situations can be detrimental in aspects of life. it is up to you to guide your insecurity to the former instead of the latter.
also, if you perceive someone attacking you, then why resort to the same retorts? why not explain yourself and take the high road? any statement made can be perceived in many different ways and it is up to you to decide how that person meant it and how you should respond. see the difference in the way i answered the question about Kazakhistani friends and compare it to your response.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
or you can spew common sense as if you're intelligent for saying it in situations where it doesn't apply......is that a sign of confidence? if so ur confident as fuk prideneverdies
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On November 07 2009 16:09 JohnColtrane wrote:
well she was pretty much anti-asian
but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger
Asking Asians who have a shop in an English speaking country to adjust their signs so that it includes English is not anti-Asian, but pro-sense.
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On November 07 2009 16:06 Rekrul wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:02 PrideNeverDies wrote:On November 07 2009 15:58 Rekrul wrote:On November 07 2009 15:56 PrideNeverDies wrote:On November 07 2009 15:50 Rekrul wrote:On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.
LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich? You make it seem as if I lost in that encounter instead of winning. both sides win in that situation. you feel better about yourself and your prospect in a foreign country and the taxi driver goes home with a little more money to feed his family. however, you need to consider that it could be possible that the taxi driver might not be the most accurate indicator of korean feelings toward foreigners considering he stands to gain from complimenting you. you realize tipping almost never happens in korea especially in cabs and especially by the white folk cuz they all broke? no, you dont el oh el but you are "rich." if he had just stuck to complimenting your willingness to learn Korean, he might have been genuine. however the fact that he tried to emphasize that you were rich even though you obviously didn't think you looked the part, makes it seem more realistic you fell for some marketing 101. hey guys a Korean taxidriver thinks rekrul is a good foreigner, therefore all Koreans must like all foreigners. i never had any willingness to learn korean i'm just a natural linguistic genius and fyi, rich people tip less, thats why they are rich. rich ppl r usually the biggest of jews pun intended
taking the sarcastic way out when you lose a logical argument. do you always act this immature when you realize you are wrong on things? where did you learn this kind of behavior, from your peers or parents?
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
On November 07 2009 16:13 PrideNeverDies wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:06 Rekrul wrote:On November 07 2009 16:02 PrideNeverDies wrote:On November 07 2009 15:58 Rekrul wrote:On November 07 2009 15:56 PrideNeverDies wrote:On November 07 2009 15:50 Rekrul wrote:On November 07 2009 15:37 PrideNeverDies wrote:
how many non-chinese friends do you have haduken? i'm not talking acquaintances or people who smiled at you on the street, but people you hang out with regularly.
LOL at rekrul getting all happy that a taxi driver gave him compliments. That's like people who give huge tips to waitresses because they think they are flirting with them. Apparently it worked because rekrul gave the taxi driver a generous amount. Why do you think the taxi driver subtly gave you the message that you seem rich? You make it seem as if I lost in that encounter instead of winning. both sides win in that situation. you feel better about yourself and your prospect in a foreign country and the taxi driver goes home with a little more money to feed his family. however, you need to consider that it could be possible that the taxi driver might not be the most accurate indicator of korean feelings toward foreigners considering he stands to gain from complimenting you. you realize tipping almost never happens in korea especially in cabs and especially by the white folk cuz they all broke? no, you dont el oh el but you are "rich." if he had just stuck to complimenting your willingness to learn Korean, he might have been genuine. however the fact that he tried to emphasize that you were rich even though you obviously didn't think you looked the part, makes it seem more realistic you fell for some marketing 101. hey guys a Korean taxidriver thinks rekrul is a good foreigner, therefore all Koreans must like all foreigners. i never had any willingness to learn korean i'm just a natural linguistic genius and fyi, rich people tip less, thats why they are rich. rich ppl r usually the biggest of jews pun intended taking the sarcastic way out when you lose a logical argument. do you always act this immature when you realize you are wrong on things? where did you learn this kind of behavior, from your peers or parents?
i can't lose an argument i never had
i've ridden cabs in korea thousands and thousands of times
i have never had a cab driver do/say anything to try and get a tip
i guess everyone except this guy forgot to take taxi cab marketting 101 lmao
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BTW, I admit that I didn't read any of the OP material because I'm tired of all the race related threads here at TL.
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On November 07 2009 16:13 Masamune wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:09 JohnColtrane wrote:
well she was pretty much anti-asian
but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger Asking Asians who have a shop in an English speaking country to adjust their signs so that it includes English is not anti-Asian, but pro-sense.
i was referring to her other policies, not her asian sign hating
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There is a difference between interacting with people by having to serve them (customer service at Walmart, for example) and actually being friends with them and learning about their culture. I went to Manchu Wok today, does that mean that all of a sudden I have this in-depth understanding of Asian culture because I spoke to the cashier?
As for having more friends (lets not talk about relatives being more of your own race...isn’t that a given?) of your own race, sure, I’m not saying it should be equal. However, based on the way you categorized all those groups in your earlier post, and by the cues I get from your profile alone, I can tell that you were one of those FOB Chinese kids at my highschool who never associated with anyone else but other FOBs. So you probably don't even know other races well enough to pass credible judgement on them. Just because your teacher was Polish doesn’t mean that all of a sudden you understand the racial dynamics of Slavic people, wtf.
You see, the difference between you and me is that I don't pretend to know everything about everything.
Maybe I am a FOB kid lol?, how is by being a Non-FOB kid make him any more/less credible? He still won't know a thing about other races outside of his social circle who may/may not consist of people who are genetically different than him.
I work, I study, I socialise with people who come into my company, I don't and can't possibly be selective. It's not like I have a switch in my head that turns me off everytime I see someone who is different to me, I can only judge people base on my past experiences be them lawyers, doctors, Indians, Chinese, whites whatever...
You clearly have no clue what racism is. Maybe you should hop on that boat and paddle back to China. Oh, and make sure to pick up some soap on the way back, because whenever I sit next to Chinese people on the bus, they stink. Hey, maybe I am stereotyping and I'm sure not all Chinese are like that but the fact remains that majority of them do because that's their way, maybe they have a different kind of cleanliness, I will never know. I heard Dove is good for your skin.
I didn't say that Indians should go back to Indian or whereever they come from did I? I remarked on their social courteousy and you somehow interpreted that as a racist.
Do Chinese stink? I would say that majority of people would agree with me when I say that Chinese generally takecare of their personal hygen and don't have any sort of strong body ordor.
Now, if you have stereotyped Chinese based on at least some notion of truth then i would have agreed with you. Bad example.
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On November 07 2009 16:16 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:13 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:09 JohnColtrane wrote:
well she was pretty much anti-asian
but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger Asking Asians who have a shop in an English speaking country to adjust their signs so that it includes English is not anti-Asian, but pro-sense. i was referring to her other policies, not her asian sign hating
But that has nothing to do with why she was brought into the topic by haduken. Her other policies have nothing to do with my example on why all races should conform to the native language of the country they are in, at least when it comes to public advertisements.
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On November 07 2009 16:07 Masamune wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:06 JohnColtrane wrote:pauline hanson was crucified for more than just her sign policies That's what I thought, because crucifying someone politcally for stating that the signs of a shop should include the native language is stupid. Nice example haduken.
Nice reading skills. I did mention that it wasn't just the signs in previous posts.
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On November 07 2009 16:18 Masamune wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:16 JohnColtrane wrote:On November 07 2009 16:13 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:09 JohnColtrane wrote:
well she was pretty much anti-asian
but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger Asking Asians who have a shop in an English speaking country to adjust their signs so that it includes English is not anti-Asian, but pro-sense. i was referring to her other policies, not her asian sign hating But that has nothing to do with why she was brought into the topic by haduken. Her other policies have nothing to do with my example on why all races should conform to the native language of the country they are in, at least when it comes to public advertisements.
i didnt say it did :C
all i said was, she was crucified for more than the signs AND that is was because she was in general racist towards asians. thats all. i was just saying it because you said you didnt know who she was
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On November 07 2009 16:11 PrideNeverDies wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:01 haduken wrote:i was just curious because when you were asked the question you deflected it in your reply without answering it.
also, it seems to me that you are projecting your insecurity about being socially handicapped to me. that fact that you brought those questions up and became extremely defensive over a question leads me to believe you have deeper issues you need to resolve.
do you regularly lack self-confidence and it is something brought on by your parents or self? Maybe I do，maybe I don't, maybe I think that everyone should have a little insecurity in themselves so they can go on to be better human beings. How am I suppose to judge that you want an answer instead of interpreting it as anything but a lame teenager retort. insecurity could be a strong driving force toward success, but lacking confidence in social situations can be detrimental in aspects of life. it is up to you to guide your insecurity to the former instead of the latter. also, if you perceive someone attacking you, then why resort to the same retorts? why not explain yourself and take the high road? any statement made can be perceived in many different ways and it is up to you to decide how that person meant it and how you should respond. see the difference in the way i answered the question about Kazakhistani friends and compare it to your response.
Well, one thing is that I'm not a saint, I don't always take the Moral HIGH GROUND what ever the fuck that is certainly I don't see the need to do that one an internet forum. lol?
Take a hint, I'm suppose to be the bigot stupid Asian in this thread, how can I react in anyother way?
^my response in your style ~~
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On November 07 2009 16:17 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:01 Masamune wrote: I don't see how this is relevant. FYI, Pauline Hanson was an Australian fish'n'chips owner who became a politician said the same thing about Asian signs. She was crucified for her view (not just about the signs). So I do know a little bit about what you are saying. I don’t know who this person is, but whatever the language, if you come to Canada, make sure the main sign is in English and/or French because that is the national language here. I’d imagine that is how it should be done anywhere else. There isn’t a problem with writing something in your native language, just make sure that English and/or French is included and is what is the most visible (or equally visible at the least). I wasn't brought up in a Western country (Which explains my location) so I don't think it is outside the norm to have friends and relatives that are the same race as me. It doesn't mean that I don't interact with other groups, as a matter of fact I have to in a multicultural society.
So, I don't see the merits of your arguments sorry, Indian, Chinese, Whites, Blacks, Brown all associate with people of their own race more than other groups. This is a statistical fact.
So please, don't tell me to miggle with other people, I've heard enough of that line to know that it's the standard retort/response from people who don't know anything about racial relations. There is a difference between interacting with people by having to serve them (customer service at Walmart, for example) and actually being friends with them and learning about their culture. I went to Manchu Wok today, does that mean that all of a sudden I have this in-depth understanding of Asian culture because I spoke to the cashier? As for having more friends (lets not talk about relatives being more of your own race...isn’t that a given?) of your own race, sure, I’m not saying it should be equal. However, based on the way you categorized all those groups in your earlier post, and by the cues I get from your profile alone, I can tell that you were one of those FOB Chinese kids at my highschool who never associated with anyone else but other FOBs. So you probably don't even know other races well enough to pass credible judgement on them. Just because your teacher was Polish doesn’t mean that all of a sudden you understand the racial dynamics of Slavic people, wtf. You see, the difference between you and me is that I don't pretend to know everything about everything. Maybe I am a FOB kid lol?, how is by being a Non-FOB kid make him any more/less credible? He still won't know a thing about other races outside of his social circle who may/may not consist of people who are genetically different than him. I work, I study, I socialise with people who come into my company, I don't and can't possibly be selective. It's not like I have a switch in my head that turns me off everytime I see someone who is is different to me, I can only judge people base on my past experiences be them lawyers, doctors, Indians, Chinese, whites whatever... If we go by your standard then how can anyone be so credible on judging inter-racical relations? We can be one race and one race only. All we can really put forth is our own personal observation, don't sweat it, you don't see me posting everytime some one diss Chinese do you? (Well, I used to but that was like 5 years ago)[/qutoe]
Yes, no one can be 100% accurate in judging inter-racial relations, but you certainly can be 0%. You’re more closer to the latter, and that’s probably because your personal observation has no value whatsoever because I honestly believe you do not know very many people on a personal, positive relation, outside of your own race.
Now that you've mentioned it, I'm sure that my previous posts appeared to be racist but how about you define racism to me?
Tell me what is and when is it okay to saying something about a racial group and not come off as blatantly racist. Why is it that I can't rant about another racial group and not get blasted for what it is (A RANT), you don't see me calling Indian names do you? or did I say that I go around and punch Indians in the face because they are brown?
Or can I just say that Lebanese guys go around bashing people and up to no good? Or that Indians are not very courteous and considerate when interacting with other people? Hey, maybe I am stereotyping and I'm sure not all Indians are like that but the fact remains that majority of them do because that's their way, maybe they have a different kind of politness, I will never know. You clearly have no clue what racism is. Maybe you should hop on that boat and paddle back to China. Oh, and make sure to pick up some soap on the way back, because whenever I sit next to Chinese people on the bus, they stink. Hey, maybe I am stereotyping and I'm sure not all Chinese are like that but the fact remains that majority of them do because that's their way, maybe they have a different kind of cleanliness, I will never know. I heard Dove is good for your skin. I didn't say that Indians should go back to Indian or whereever they come from did I? I remarked on their social courteousy and you somehow interpreted that as a racist. Do Chinese stink? I would say that majority of people would agree with me when I say that Chinese generally takecare of their personal hygen and don't have any sort of strong body ordor. Now, if you have stereotyped Chinese based on at least some notion of truth then i would have agreed with you. Bad example.
Your notion of truth has no crediblity when it is based on your (already admitted) personal opinion. You make claims like they are facts. Do you even know why you are wrong? I'm not Kwark, so I will pass on bothering to dissect your rationalization, because it will probably bounce off your dense head, and be a waste of time. Plus I have a headache. I didn't realize reading retarded posts was a possible precurser to migraines, but I guess I should update wikipedia now.
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On November 07 2009 16:19 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:07 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:06 JohnColtrane wrote:pauline hanson was crucified for more than just her sign policies That's what I thought, because crucifying someone politcally for stating that the signs of a shop should include the native language is stupid. Nice example haduken. Nice reading skills. I did mention that it wasn't just the signs in previous posts.
Then why the hell did you bring it up if it has no relevance? Are you just that out of it?
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are we gonna go back to talking about koreans now
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On November 07 2009 16:21 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:18 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:16 JohnColtrane wrote:On November 07 2009 16:13 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:09 JohnColtrane wrote:
well she was pretty much anti-asian
but i didnt really take her seriously coz shes a ginger Asking Asians who have a shop in an English speaking country to adjust their signs so that it includes English is not anti-Asian, but pro-sense. i was referring to her other policies, not her asian sign hating But that has nothing to do with why she was brought into the topic by haduken. Her other policies have nothing to do with my example on why all races should conform to the native language of the country they are in, at least when it comes to public advertisements. i didnt say it did :C all i said was, she was crucified for more than the signs AND that is was because she was in general racist towards asians. thats all. i was just saying it because you said you didnt know who she was
Thanks, I already kinda realized she was anti-asian because you can't possibly get in trouble for the sign policy thing. It just baffles me that haduken is still responding when he's a complete moron.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
koreans just need to be pushed a little bit in the right direction
last night trying to get a cab for me and some nerds
2 cabs appear to be stopping to pick us up then realize we are a bunch of whites and keep driving
then i decided to stand in the middle of the road and force the next one to stop. it worked.
see, they aren't racist, they are just intimidated by us
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On November 07 2009 16:25 JohnColtrane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:23 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:19 haduken wrote:On November 07 2009 16:07 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:06 JohnColtrane wrote:pauline hanson was crucified for more than just her sign policies That's what I thought, because crucifying someone politcally for stating that the signs of a shop should include the native language is stupid. Nice example haduken. Nice reading skills. I did mention that it wasn't just the signs in previous posts. Then why the hell did you bring it up if it has no relevance? Are you just that out of it? because you said you didnt know anything about her and i thought you might be interested thanks for being so polite about it i appreciate it
I really didn't care about it to be honest. I knew she was probably grilled for other reasons, I was just wondering why she was brought up. Probably to help aid haduken in his shitty defense, which of course, as seen with this example, is pretty fragile. You're welcome.
I just realized that you were commenting about a comment I made to haduken. el oh el
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yeah i just noticed too :C
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On November 07 2009 16:23 Masamune wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:19 haduken wrote:On November 07 2009 16:07 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:06 JohnColtrane wrote:pauline hanson was crucified for more than just her sign policies That's what I thought, because crucifying someone politcally for stating that the signs of a shop should include the native language is stupid. Nice example haduken. Nice reading skills. I did mention that it wasn't just the signs in previous posts. Then why the hell did you bring it up if it has no relevance? Are you just that out of it?
Why did you bring Asian shop signs in this argument? I haven no idea. I only remarked it in my post to acknowledge the existence of the issue.
After reading your previous posts, I see that you are trying to paint an association between FOBness and your argument using Asian signs lol? okay...
Calm down buddy, I never presented my post as facts, it is a post on a starcraft forum in a discussing thread about a Korean's racist issue when none of us lives in Korea >.<
I've said this before, take my post anyway you want, there is no need to resort to name calling. I've noticed that you've got a headache so you are probably not in the best state of mind right now, let's call it a truce and move on? I've got 3 beers left in my fridge and I intend to finish that before dinner
(Take random guy's advice on responding in moral highground fashion fighting~~)
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On November 07 2009 16:26 Masamune wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:25 JohnColtrane wrote:On November 07 2009 16:23 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:19 haduken wrote:On November 07 2009 16:07 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:06 JohnColtrane wrote:pauline hanson was crucified for more than just her sign policies That's what I thought, because crucifying someone politcally for stating that the signs of a shop should include the native language is stupid. Nice example haduken. Nice reading skills. I did mention that it wasn't just the signs in previous posts. Then why the hell did you bring it up if it has no relevance? Are you just that out of it? because you said you didnt know anything about her and i thought you might be interested thanks for being so polite about it i appreciate it I really didn't care about it to be honest. I knew she was probably grilled for other reasons, I was just wondering why she was brought up. Probably to help aid haduken in his shitty defense, which of course, as seen with this example, is pretty fragile. You're welcome. I just realized that you were commenting about a comment I made to haduken. el oh el
loool? nice way to force a win in an argument.
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On November 07 2009 16:36 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:23 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:19 haduken wrote:On November 07 2009 16:07 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:06 JohnColtrane wrote:pauline hanson was crucified for more than just her sign policies That's what I thought, because crucifying someone politcally for stating that the signs of a shop should include the native language is stupid. Nice example haduken. Nice reading skills. I did mention that it wasn't just the signs in previous posts. Then why the hell did you bring it up if it has no relevance? Are you just that out of it? Why did you bring Asian shop signs in this argument? I haven no idea. I only remarked it in my post to acknowledge the existence of the issue. After reading your previous posts, I see that you are trying to paint an association between FOBness and your argument using Asian signs lol? okay... Calm down buddy, I never presented my post as facts, it is a post on a starcraft forum in a discussing thread about a Korean's racist issue when none of us lives in Korea >.< I've said this before, take my post anyway you want, there is no need to resort to name calling. I've noticed that you've got a headache so you are probably not in the best state of mind right now, let's call it a truce and move on? I've got 3 beers left in my fridge and I intend to finish that before dinner (Take random guy's advice on responding in moral highground fashion fighting~~)
The Asian sign thing was to point out that the same people who have their shops written only in Chinese try to segregate themselves from people different to them. The Asian sign thing in a country whoss main language is English is analogous to your quote written with Chinese characters in a forum whose main language is English.
If I were a journalist wanting to report on the recent racial relations between Greek ands Italians, that Chinese shop down the road with a sign written only in Chinese characters is the last place I would go. Why? Because they probably have no clue about racial issues affecting Greeks and Italians because they live in their own little bubble.
This is what I was comparing to you. The same people who live in their bubble and who have only Chinese letters written on their shops, located in CANADA, are probable eerily similar to you. Neither, you or them, have any merit when making claims and generalizations about groups of people.
Even though I have a migraine, I feel my thinking is more clear than yours. I'm probably biased, but hey.
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On November 07 2009 16:39 haduken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2009 16:26 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:25 JohnColtrane wrote:On November 07 2009 16:23 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:19 haduken wrote:On November 07 2009 16:07 Masamune wrote:On November 07 2009 16:06 JohnColtrane wrote:pauline hanson was crucified for more than just her sign policies That's what I thought, because crucifying someone politcally for stating that the signs of a shop should include the native language is stupid. Nice example haduken. Nice reading skills. I did mention that it wasn't just the signs in previous posts. Then why the hell did you bring it up if it has no relevance? Are you just that out of it? because you said you didnt know anything about her and i thought you might be interested thanks for being so polite about it i appreciate it I really didn't care about it to be honest. I knew she was probably grilled for other reasons, I was just wondering why she was brought up. Probably to help aid haduken in his shitty defense, which of course, as seen with this example, is pretty fragile. You're welcome. I just realized that you were commenting about a comment I made to haduken. el oh el loool? nice way to force a win in an argument.
There wasn't a need to win any argument, it was already won when you kept posting. I was just tired of you responding even though deep down inside, you know you're wrong.
I think the topic has been derailed enough, though, so I'll leave it at that.
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Deep down inside, I feel warm and fuzzy
I maybe wrong, but only in the sense of political correctness.
Chill out buddy, my posts are half troll, half serious to begin with.
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God, why can't we go back to being prejudiced against protoss players. They are truly the lowest life in the universe!
Personally, I think it'd take a strange kind of person to not form judgments based on color of skin..... or clothing, looks, height, weight, muscle density, apparent health or choice of video game. Not all of it is fair, nor is it necessarily accurate, but you bet I'll damn do it unless I have a better source of information. (including interacting with the person)
Right now I'm in Taiwan, and if I see a middle aged south asian, I'm going to think "foreign worker", if I see a young south asian around a school I'm gonna think "crazy hard working student that jumped through the hoops to get here", while if I spot a white I'm gonna think "some lazy dude that couldn't get into a good school in their own country, or strange 'go on a culture tour' guys that chooses a rather...unexciting designation (from my perspective). If I see a formally dressed white folks out on the streets waiting for something, I get a 0.1second religious solicitation warning signal.
I don't think "genetic background blindness" is necessarily a good thing when it allows for fast and "better than completely random" guesses in absence of more info.
That said, just because I have an guess doesn't mean I think I can or should treat any of them like jerks, or treat guesses as anything solid. Even if you know someone definitely have bad manners or is annoying or whatever, there is still no reason to hate or display contempt unless it serves a function. There is no point unless it is very personal, and acting like "an agent of the greater society" is just stupid. I think the biggest threat is the failure to self reflect on one's identity or have empathy.
I put myself to love and hate individuals, not a statistical category.
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Oh, about the "Chinese signs in a English speaking country" thing, it is an active signal to tell English speakers not to come. This might be strange to logical thinkers that thinks of the profit, but I remember when my mom first went to Canada and knows no English. Forcing her to speak is like a massive ordeal that is stressful, embarrassing and downright scary. I can totally imagine some shopkeepers want to prevent that situation from happening in the first place.
As for those that talks about learning a new language. Not everyone can learn a new language at 50. (look, some people are dumb)
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Originally posted by KissBlade
Indian girls are hot. <= my poor contribution to thread.
+1
I tried hitting on one during my first year in uni, only to learn she is married since like 15. Damn Indian culture.
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Another thing about those Asian shops is that most of them are run by immigrants who are either too old or don't have the economic/social resources to pursue a full integration into the society.
and it's not like if they decided to interact more, the natives will welcome them with open arms.
I don't think it's a conscience decision on their part to exclude others. It's more like that most of their customers are also immigrants from their own background who find it more welcoming if the signs are in their own language. For some of them, going to another shop can be a bit intimadating.
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Well, Allot of Chinese say the same thing about Koreans.
and vice versa.
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