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BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
September 05 2009 03:54 GMT
#221
k just because it's normal for everyone to carry a gun in Mississippi like you said is it normal for 14 year olds to have them on a school bus?
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
September 05 2009 03:55 GMT
#222
On September 05 2009 12:45 Draconizard wrote:
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On September 05 2009 12:41 DamageControL wrote:
On September 05 2009 12:31 Aegraen wrote:
On September 05 2009 12:28 neobowman wrote:
I doubt that too many high school students would be able to tell the difference between different guns either. Great move by the football player.


This was in Mississippi.....I know it's hard for a Canadian to understand, but just about everyone has a gun in the South. Think of Texas, and extrapolate that to the rest of the south and for that matter much of the southwest. The average High School student in Mississippi knows a whole hell of a lot more about guns than say, a High School student in Maryland or Michigan.

This may be hard for a hardened badass navy SEAL like yourself to understand, but most people aren't thinking about what kind of gun they are facing, rationalizing, then acting on that. They are going, wtf gun.


Aegraen's in Coast Guard training, which is clearly more badass than any navy SEAL could ever hope to be.



Yeah he claims to have saved farrrr more that 23 lives lol. Why hasn't he graduated yet?

and CM you're just trolling now, pretty funny I admit
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
September 05 2009 04:04 GMT
#223
On September 05 2009 12:45 Draconizard wrote:
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On September 05 2009 12:41 DamageControL wrote:
On September 05 2009 12:31 Aegraen wrote:
On September 05 2009 12:28 neobowman wrote:
I doubt that too many high school students would be able to tell the difference between different guns either. Great move by the football player.


This was in Mississippi.....I know it's hard for a Canadian to understand, but just about everyone has a gun in the South. Think of Texas, and extrapolate that to the rest of the south and for that matter much of the southwest. The average High School student in Mississippi knows a whole hell of a lot more about guns than say, a High School student in Maryland or Michigan.

This may be hard for a hardened badass navy SEAL like yourself to understand, but most people aren't thinking about what kind of gun they are facing, rationalizing, then acting on that. They are going, wtf gun.


Aegraen's in Coast Guard training, which is clearly more badass than any navy SEAL could ever hope to be.

Basically. Green Berets, SEALs, any special forces in the world worth their weight in shit model themselves off of AEGRAEN
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Clasic
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Bosnia-Herzegovina1437 Posts
September 05 2009 04:44 GMT
#224
On September 05 2009 12:31 Aegraen wrote:
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On September 05 2009 12:28 neobowman wrote:
I doubt that too many high school students would be able to tell the difference between different guns either. Great move by the football player.


This was in Mississippi.....I know it's hard for a Canadian to understand, but just about everyone has a gun in the South. Think of Texas, and extrapolate that to the rest of the south and for that matter much of the southwest. The average High School student in Mississippi knows a whole hell of a lot more about guns than say, a High School student in Maryland or Michigan.


Not everybody in the south has a gun, retarded shit.

NONE~~~~ of the southern people I know from fucking Georgia and Arkansas have been near a gun, so I doubt what your saying is true.
No no no no its not mine!
lazz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia3119 Posts
September 05 2009 05:44 GMT
#225
god damn this guy is gonna get so much pussy
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-05 12:09:24
September 05 2009 12:03 GMT
#226
So many fucking keyboard warriors in this thread it's unbelievable.
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lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-05 13:08:01
September 05 2009 12:59 GMT
#227
On September 05 2009 12:10 DamageControL wrote:
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On September 05 2009 10:58 lepape wrote:
On September 05 2009 10:49 Probe. wrote:
How about if someone was holding an AK-47 and screaming that he is pissed off at life and about to kill people. Some kid knowing his and everyone else's life is in danger ensures the safe escape of everyone and tackles the man with the weapon when hes not looking. OH BUT WAIT IT TURNS OUT THERE WERE NO BULLETS IN THE GUN SO THERE WAS NO REAL DANGER. THE KID ISN'T A HERO AFTER ALL.

fucking CharlieMurphy quit trying to sound cool


Although you were sarcastic, what you said is totally true. The move is less heroic when the weapon is less lethal, that's common sense.

-Is she was holding a fully loaded assault rifle, it would be f-king heroic because everyone could die.

-Is she was holding a kitchen knife, stopping her would be nice, not heroic, because the most she could do would be to stab someone's eye.

Stopping someone who has virtually no chance to inflict any damage, it's not heroic. At most, it's brave if the situation looks worse than it is.

Your counter analogies are flawed because in them the perceived threat as well as the actual threat changes, where as in the first the perceived threat is inconsistent with the actual threat.

So I would argue that we should judge how brave someone is based upon the perceived threat and not the actual threat because the actual threat has not effect on action.

Consider this. A grenade is tossed. I dive on it to save my fellow soldiers in my squad.

Whether that grenade is defective or not, I am still being heroic because I, from my situation, have no way of knowing the difference between my prospective fates. That is, while I certainly hope the grenade is defective when I dive, I still am willing to die for my fellow soldiers. The act is equivalent in terms of bravery.

If you want to argue whether or not he is a hero, you can argue what qualifies as a hero, but should not dispute that his act was as courageous as if the chick had a more powerful gun, or ten bullets, or 20.

edit: In addition I feel that what a hero is has a somewhat fluid definition, but in general the kid should be considered one. Being a hero should be weighed in three ways, in my opinion. What was the risk to the potential hero, what was the potential damage that said maybe hero prevented, and what was his motivation.

Obviously his motivation lied in his siblings and his friends, a worthy motivation.

His life really could have been in danger as soon as he "tried to get her attention" People have focused a lot on the tackle itself, which may have been minimally (but still possibly) dangerous. However, I think as soon as you talk to a potentially unstable person with a gun no matter how "weak" it is. Clearly, he was at risk.

Finally, damage control. I think he potentially saved a life and a couple of injuries. Yeah, she's not hitting someone with every bullet, and maybe she doesn't shoot the gun, but she still has the capability to hurt quite a few people.



I made a clear distinction between bravery and heroism in my post, these are two very different things.

Because no, heroism is never based on perceived threat instead of actual threat. You can't be a hero if there was no real danger in the first place.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 05 2009 13:08 GMT
#228
Well considering she had a loaded gun that she was pointing at people, I guess this makes him brave and a hero.
RedTerror
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
New Zealand742 Posts
September 05 2009 13:12 GMT
#229
Only in America
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
September 05 2009 13:46 GMT
#230
I've never heard of a kid having a gun outside usa :/
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
September 05 2009 13:48 GMT
#231
guy is a moron
lepape
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada557 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-05 15:08:50
September 05 2009 14:54 GMT
#232
On September 05 2009 22:08 BlackJack wrote:
Well considering she had a loaded gun that she was pointing at people, I guess this makes him brave and a hero.


If you read correctly, you'd notice I never said otherwise. I was answering about the situation described in Probe's post.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
September 05 2009 20:09 GMT
#233
On September 05 2009 11:31 CharlieMurphy wrote:
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On September 05 2009 11:19 Probe. wrote:
It doesn't matter what you think the girl might have done or know what she might have done. The fact is SHE HAD A FUCKING GUN and she was emotionally unstable. You can't use rational thoughts on someone who is acting unrational. In the eyes of the boy on the bus he saw a chick with a gun. No need to go into specifics about the gun. And instead of running the fuck out of there (or casual strolling out like CharlieMurphy would do if a gun is pointed at him) he stayed and ensured everyone left unharmed and the girls only means of harm was taken away from her. This selfless act alone makes him a hero.

this made me lol for some reason. Back to the meat of your post, I don't think you guys are reading into my whole perspective of the situation (which is actually kind of ironic because that is the basis of my points) I'm not gonna repeat myself again, just click the all button and ctrl+f to find my posts.


if this guy rode the bus with this girl every day and saw her often enough at school I'm sure he had a good enough read on her to make a totally safe move. It's like If this was my 14 year old sister when I was 18 and she did this I could easily do the same thing because I know what she is and isn't capable of even before the whole situation.

My previous post still stands. You're a sad, sad man...and honestly, I think it's you that needs to get out more. Either that, or you're fourteen.
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dka
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States132 Posts
September 06 2009 04:17 GMT
#234
People like CM and Aegraen makes me sick to my stomache.
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