EPTOn September 04 2009 06:21 yejin wrote:
Only in America !
Only in America !
Student disarms potential shooter on bus - Page 10
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On September 05 2009 09:32 Zoler wrote: Only in Sweden! | ||
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
What happens only in Sweden? Please, explain you make no sense. | ||
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pokeyAA
United States936 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On September 05 2009 09:35 Zoler wrote: What happens only in Sweden? Please, explain you make no sense. Perhaps I should have "only in Europe" because its basically the only continent to look down on the rest of the world while thinking their way of life is how everyone should live and oh no bad things EVER happen there. | ||
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On September 05 2009 06:19 PH wrote: I think you're a sad, cynical douche bag. The article is written like shit, and the sheriff did run his mouth like any other would on US media, but that's not the focus here. You don't need infinite bullets nor need you be a sharpshooter to kill someone with a loaded weapon in the close confines of a school bus. Be realistic. The guy is a hero for not freaking the fuck out like you and I would have done and for doing something constructive about it. Regardless of whether or not she would have shot anyone, he ensured for a damn fact that no one would get shot. When it comes to people's lives like that, being willing to compromise and accept probabilities like you seem to be doing is just unacceptable. Notice how in the video clip they don't show the full unedited takedown and tape from start to finish. Yea the guy probably just got up while she was just waving the gun around (not pointing it at him or anyone else) and just took her down on sheer body weight alone. also the story about doing to to protect others and shit is probably just thought up after the fact. Hell maybe some producer told him to say it to make the news better even. If anything he was just doing it thinking of only his sisters or just the fact that he didn't wanna take any shit from some girl waving a gun towards him and demanding shit. edit- in the clips below I posted you can hear him yelling for her to put the gun down a few times. then she like backs away and turns and he just takes her down. and again, I do not think this chick was planning or willing to kill anyone. So in my opinion I do not think he actually saved anyone at all. Chick is just letting kids run off the bus, she wasn't trying to shoot anyone. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
the chick is totally frontin with the gun, look she even casually walks with her back to like 5-6 people and with the gun down like below the seat with her hand like half way holding the gun and the seat. | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
However, I really hate that the media sensationalizes everything like this. In reality, the guy should have just gotten some hugs and some high fives. Good humans look out for other humans. The media shouldn't be calling him a super hero. The proper response is "if that ever happens to me, I will be that awesome" not "Holy shit give that guy a million dollars, I would've never done that shit, fucking super man IMO" High five to the hero, thumbs down to MSNBC. | ||
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SatouxKisei
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Licmyobelisk
Philippines3682 Posts
On September 05 2009 10:20 keV. wrote: What the guy did was pretty cool. The result was that no one was hurt. (Minus an EPIC sack on a 14yo) However, I really hate that the media sensationalizes everything like this. In reality, the guy should have just gotten some hugs and some high fives. Good humans look out for other humans. The media shouldn't be calling him a super hero. The proper response is "if that ever happens to me, I will be that awesome" not "Holy shit give that guy a million dollars, I would've never done that shit, fucking super man IMO" High five to the hero, thumbs down to MSNBC. Is there like an auditor/supervisor stop sensationalize media whoring? I hate it myself  | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On September 05 2009 10:11 CharlieMurphy wrote: Notice how in the video clip they don't show the full unedited takedown and tape from start to finish. Yea the guy probably just got up while she was just waving the gun around (not pointing it at him or anyone else) and just took her down on sheer body weight alone. also the story about doing to to protect others and shit is probably just thought up after the fact. Hell maybe some producer told him to say it to make the news better even. If anything he was just doing it thinking of only his sisters or just the fact that he didn't wanna take any shit from some girl waving a gun towards him and demanding shit. edit- in the clips below I posted you can hear him yelling for her to put the gun down a few times. then she like backs away and turns and he just takes her down. and again, I do not think this chick was planning or willing to kill anyone. So in my opinion I do not think he actually saved anyone at all. Chick is just letting kids run off the bus, she wasn't trying to shoot anyone. And this changes anything how? | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
It doesn't matter if there were blanks in the gun or if it was a fucking bb gun that looked dangerous. The kid did not know at the time and he probably didn't know the caliber of the gun or how skilled she was with it. Even if he thought she was unskilled, a gun is an incredible equalizer between an expert and a newbie. The act itself was heroic, you dumb pieces of shit. CM, stop looking at it with 20/20 vision of the situation. Think about it in the context as it happened. Unless you're Jason Bourne, you don't make the calculations you just tried to make. | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On September 05 2009 10:39 CharlieMurphy wrote: Like I said, I do not think anyone was in any danger physically . Therefor no one can be a hero. By this definition... A quiet bus ride to or from school is as safe as a bus ride with an irate 14 year old girl waving a gun around. Correct? | ||
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BalliSLife
1339 Posts
On September 05 2009 10:39 CharlieMurphy wrote: Like I said, I do not think anyone was in any danger physically . Therefor no one can be a hero. How were they not in any danger though? we never know if she would of eventually shot at someone because she was stopped. Does someone need to be shot at in order for him to be considered heroic? | ||
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Probe.
United States877 Posts
fucking CharlieMurphy quit trying to sound cool | ||
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lepape
Canada557 Posts
On September 05 2009 10:49 Probe. wrote: How about if someone was holding an AK-47 and screaming that he is pissed off at life and about to kill people. Some kid knowing his and everyone else's life is in danger ensures the safe escape of everyone and tackles the man with the weapon when hes not looking. OH BUT WAIT IT TURNS OUT THERE WERE NO BULLETS IN THE GUN SO THERE WAS NO REAL DANGER. THE KID ISN'T A HERO AFTER ALL. fucking CharlieMurphy quit trying to sound cool Although you were sarcastic, what you said is totally true. The move is less heroic when the weapon is less lethal, that's common sense. -Is she was holding a fully loaded assault rifle, it would be f-king heroic because everyone could die. -Is she was holding a kitchen knife, stopping her would be nice, not heroic, because the most she could do would be to stab someone's eye. Stopping someone who has virtually no chance to inflict any damage, it's not heroic. At most, it's brave if the situation looks worse than it is. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
edit- I'm not fucking referencing her weapon or if it had bullets. Stop bringing up arguments I'm not even talking about that some dumb fuck brought up on page 2. PS- Also note that when the chick is sideswiped from obviously not paying attention, no rounds are shot off, this is because she wasn't looking to do so. I guarantee you, if someone was trying to shoot attackers a round would have gone off, and she definitely wouldn't have just dropped the gun so easily. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
On September 05 2009 10:46 keV. wrote: By this definition... A quiet bus ride to or from school is as safe as a bus ride with an irate 14 year old girl waving a gun around. Correct? I'm not generalizing , you are. I'm saying in this particular video this chick is obviously bluffing. So yes, these kids are safe because again she just lets them all walk behind her and off the bus with no repercussions. Just to clarify, the kid is either brave or stupid but he is no hero. | ||
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