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aw why isn't charliemurphy posting in here anymore? internet tough guy to the rescue!
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On September 04 2009 05:55 Thats_The_Spirit wrote:
A quarterback tackling a 14 year old girl.
lol.
hjahahahaha
Still, he was heroic imo
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On September 05 2009 00:01 1tym wrote:
He is a hero to me. What have any of you done in your lifetime that is even remotely close to what he has done for 22 people that were on the bus other than keyboard warrior-ing on the internet? In fact yes a glorious standing ovation from an unappreciative skeptic like you would be nice
I've saved far more than 22 people. Making retarded assumptions on people you've never met is very accurate. /sarc
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SCIENCE TO THE RESCUE!!!!
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On September 04 2009 23:48 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2009 23:37 1tym wrote:
OK since you won't give in let's stop speculating as to what his motive was and what she was capable/incapable of. After all, it's all speculation based on circumstantial measurement. Your very first post in this thread was to take credit away from him but you're continually dismissing the fact that it was him who opened the emergency back door in the first place and shifted the attention from girl from everyone else to him? That is not bravery? It wasn't like everyone else was casually walking off the bus with a crazy girl pointing a gun at them. Are you aware that they were on a bus? You can see everyone on the bus infront of you without even thinking about using your perepheral vision. It's absolutely impossible to not notice people walking off the bus. Take credit away? I said he had balls. What else do you want? A glorious standing ovation, while I proclaim to the citizenry what a hero we have in our midst as we erect for him a 25 ft tall bronze statue. Yes, what he did by opening the emergency door and having people get off the bus was a good deed, a hero though? I don't think so, especially when he decided to tackle her and cause a situation with an increased chance of an accidental fire. Accidental fire... but if I'm not mistaken, you said earlier that the bullet wouldn't be likely to harm him?
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On September 05 2009 00:23 KaRnaGe[cF] wrote:SCIENCE TO THE RESCUE!!!!
Thread win. This is fucking hilarious!
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On September 05 2009 00:20 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2009 00:01 1tym wrote:
He is a hero to me. What have any of you done in your lifetime that is even remotely close to what he has done for 22 people that were on the bus other than keyboard warrior-ing on the internet? In fact yes a glorious standing ovation from an unappreciative skeptic like you would be nice I've saved far more than 22 people. Making retarded assumptions on people you've never met is very accurate. /sarc
........... And this coming from a person who likes to make assumptions about the situation he's never been on.
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Why don't you guys get a room already?
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Wow this is the thread of the year.
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On September 05 2009 00:25 Zozma wrote:Show nested quote +On September 04 2009 23:48 Aegraen wrote:On September 04 2009 23:37 1tym wrote:
OK since you won't give in let's stop speculating as to what his motive was and what she was capable/incapable of. After all, it's all speculation based on circumstantial measurement. Your very first post in this thread was to take credit away from him but you're continually dismissing the fact that it was him who opened the emergency back door in the first place and shifted the attention from girl from everyone else to him? That is not bravery? It wasn't like everyone else was casually walking off the bus with a crazy girl pointing a gun at them. Are you aware that they were on a bus? You can see everyone on the bus infront of you without even thinking about using your perepheral vision. It's absolutely impossible to not notice people walking off the bus. Take credit away? I said he had balls. What else do you want? A glorious standing ovation, while I proclaim to the citizenry what a hero we have in our midst as we erect for him a 25 ft tall bronze statue. Yes, what he did by opening the emergency door and having people get off the bus was a good deed, a hero though? I don't think so, especially when he decided to tackle her and cause a situation with an increased chance of an accidental fire. Accidental fire... but if I'm not mistaken, you said earlier that the bullet wouldn't be likely to harm him?
No, I said it wouldn't be likely to kill him. Lethality. The gun can still kill, but you have to be very precise in what area you hit, but any increase in that chance isn't what I would call a hero.
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On September 05 2009 00:28 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2009 00:25 Zozma wrote:On September 04 2009 23:48 Aegraen wrote:On September 04 2009 23:37 1tym wrote:
OK since you won't give in let's stop speculating as to what his motive was and what she was capable/incapable of. After all, it's all speculation based on circumstantial measurement. Your very first post in this thread was to take credit away from him but you're continually dismissing the fact that it was him who opened the emergency back door in the first place and shifted the attention from girl from everyone else to him? That is not bravery? It wasn't like everyone else was casually walking off the bus with a crazy girl pointing a gun at them. Are you aware that they were on a bus? You can see everyone on the bus infront of you without even thinking about using your perepheral vision. It's absolutely impossible to not notice people walking off the bus. Take credit away? I said he had balls. What else do you want? A glorious standing ovation, while I proclaim to the citizenry what a hero we have in our midst as we erect for him a 25 ft tall bronze statue. Yes, what he did by opening the emergency door and having people get off the bus was a good deed, a hero though? I don't think so, especially when he decided to tackle her and cause a situation with an increased chance of an accidental fire. Accidental fire... but if I'm not mistaken, you said earlier that the bullet wouldn't be likely to harm him? No, I said it wouldn't be likely to kill him. Lethality. The gun can still kill, but you have to be very precise in what area you hit, but any increase in that chance isn't what I would call a hero. The situation where a gun is firing "accidentally" is not, I believe, one where it will be precisely aimed.
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On September 05 2009 00:25 1tym wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2009 00:20 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:01 1tym wrote:
He is a hero to me. What have any of you done in your lifetime that is even remotely close to what he has done for 22 people that were on the bus other than keyboard warrior-ing on the internet? In fact yes a glorious standing ovation from an unappreciative skeptic like you would be nice I've saved far more than 22 people. Making retarded assumptions on people you've never met is very accurate. /sarc ........... And this coming from a person who likes to make assumptions about the situation he's never been on.
There's a difference between retarded assumptions (Based on no evidence), and worthwhile assumptions (based on available evidence). I'll leave it to you to draw the conclusion from this analysis.
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On September 05 2009 00:30 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2009 00:25 1tym wrote:On September 05 2009 00:20 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:01 1tym wrote:
He is a hero to me. What have any of you done in your lifetime that is even remotely close to what he has done for 22 people that were on the bus other than keyboard warrior-ing on the internet? In fact yes a glorious standing ovation from an unappreciative skeptic like you would be nice I've saved far more than 22 people. Making retarded assumptions on people you've never met is very accurate. /sarc ........... And this coming from a person who likes to make assumptions about the situation he's never been on. There's a difference between retarded assumptions (Based on no evidence), and worthwhile assumptions (based on available evidence). I'll leave it to you to draw the conclusion from this analysis.
If you read the thread it's not hard to find out who people think is retarded other than your fanboy KaRnaGe[cF].
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On September 05 2009 00:30 Zozma wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2009 00:28 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:25 Zozma wrote:On September 04 2009 23:48 Aegraen wrote:On September 04 2009 23:37 1tym wrote:
OK since you won't give in let's stop speculating as to what his motive was and what she was capable/incapable of. After all, it's all speculation based on circumstantial measurement. Your very first post in this thread was to take credit away from him but you're continually dismissing the fact that it was him who opened the emergency back door in the first place and shifted the attention from girl from everyone else to him? That is not bravery? It wasn't like everyone else was casually walking off the bus with a crazy girl pointing a gun at them. Are you aware that they were on a bus? You can see everyone on the bus infront of you without even thinking about using your perepheral vision. It's absolutely impossible to not notice people walking off the bus. Take credit away? I said he had balls. What else do you want? A glorious standing ovation, while I proclaim to the citizenry what a hero we have in our midst as we erect for him a 25 ft tall bronze statue. Yes, what he did by opening the emergency door and having people get off the bus was a good deed, a hero though? I don't think so, especially when he decided to tackle her and cause a situation with an increased chance of an accidental fire. Accidental fire... but if I'm not mistaken, you said earlier that the bullet wouldn't be likely to harm him? No, I said it wouldn't be likely to kill him. Lethality. The gun can still kill, but you have to be very precise in what area you hit, but any increase in that chance isn't what I would call a hero. The situation where a gun is firing "accidentally" is not, I believe, one where it will be precisely aimed.
The time of firing and the accuracy when getting tackled no one can guess where the bullet will end up. It could be a fluke shot and shoot someone square in the forehead, or it could hit someone in the leg. No one knows. Therefore any increase in the chance of an accidental fire where you have no control over the precision of the weapon (When you're getting tackled your arm flails upward), is a risk not worthwhile especially in light of the fact people are getting off the bus all ready.
You knew what I meant anyway.
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On September 05 2009 00:33 1tym wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2009 00:30 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:25 1tym wrote:On September 05 2009 00:20 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:01 1tym wrote:
He is a hero to me. What have any of you done in your lifetime that is even remotely close to what he has done for 22 people that were on the bus other than keyboard warrior-ing on the internet? In fact yes a glorious standing ovation from an unappreciative skeptic like you would be nice I've saved far more than 22 people. Making retarded assumptions on people you've never met is very accurate. /sarc ........... And this coming from a person who likes to make assumptions about the situation he's never been on. There's a difference between retarded assumptions (Based on no evidence), and worthwhile assumptions (based on available evidence). I'll leave it to you to draw the conclusion from this analysis. If you read the thread it's not hard to find out who people think is retarded other than your fanboy KaRnaGe[cF].
People also thought Galileo was retarded. Consensus =/= Correct.
Edit: Anyways, I'm done with the thread. I let my position be known. This has turned pretty pointless. You say he's a hero, I don't. Your definition of hero isn't any less subjective than mine.
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On September 05 2009 00:33 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2009 00:30 Zozma wrote:On September 05 2009 00:28 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:25 Zozma wrote:On September 04 2009 23:48 Aegraen wrote:On September 04 2009 23:37 1tym wrote:
OK since you won't give in let's stop speculating as to what his motive was and what she was capable/incapable of. After all, it's all speculation based on circumstantial measurement. Your very first post in this thread was to take credit away from him but you're continually dismissing the fact that it was him who opened the emergency back door in the first place and shifted the attention from girl from everyone else to him? That is not bravery? It wasn't like everyone else was casually walking off the bus with a crazy girl pointing a gun at them. Are you aware that they were on a bus? You can see everyone on the bus infront of you without even thinking about using your perepheral vision. It's absolutely impossible to not notice people walking off the bus. Take credit away? I said he had balls. What else do you want? A glorious standing ovation, while I proclaim to the citizenry what a hero we have in our midst as we erect for him a 25 ft tall bronze statue. Yes, what he did by opening the emergency door and having people get off the bus was a good deed, a hero though? I don't think so, especially when he decided to tackle her and cause a situation with an increased chance of an accidental fire. Accidental fire... but if I'm not mistaken, you said earlier that the bullet wouldn't be likely to harm him? No, I said it wouldn't be likely to kill him. Lethality. The gun can still kill, but you have to be very precise in what area you hit, but any increase in that chance isn't what I would call a hero. The situation where a gun is firing "accidentally" is not, I believe, one where it will be precisely aimed. The time of firing and the accuracy when getting tackled no one can guess where the bullet will end up. It could be a fluke shot and shoot someone square in the forehead, or it could hit someone in the leg. No one knows. Therefore any increase in the chance of an accidental fire where you have no control over the precision of the weapon (When you're getting tackled your arm flails upward), is a risk not worthwhile especially in light of the fact people are getting off the bus all ready. You knew what I meant anyway. What I'm trying to say is: I believe that you either have to A) admit that there was risk to his life in his effort to help the other kids get off the bus or B) that the tackle was a reasonable measure.
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On September 05 2009 00:33 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2009 00:30 Zozma wrote:On September 05 2009 00:28 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:25 Zozma wrote:On September 04 2009 23:48 Aegraen wrote:On September 04 2009 23:37 1tym wrote:
OK since you won't give in let's stop speculating as to what his motive was and what she was capable/incapable of. After all, it's all speculation based on circumstantial measurement. Your very first post in this thread was to take credit away from him but you're continually dismissing the fact that it was him who opened the emergency back door in the first place and shifted the attention from girl from everyone else to him? That is not bravery? It wasn't like everyone else was casually walking off the bus with a crazy girl pointing a gun at them. Are you aware that they were on a bus? You can see everyone on the bus infront of you without even thinking about using your perepheral vision. It's absolutely impossible to not notice people walking off the bus. Take credit away? I said he had balls. What else do you want? A glorious standing ovation, while I proclaim to the citizenry what a hero we have in our midst as we erect for him a 25 ft tall bronze statue. Yes, what he did by opening the emergency door and having people get off the bus was a good deed, a hero though? I don't think so, especially when he decided to tackle her and cause a situation with an increased chance of an accidental fire. Accidental fire... but if I'm not mistaken, you said earlier that the bullet wouldn't be likely to harm him? No, I said it wouldn't be likely to kill him. Lethality. The gun can still kill, but you have to be very precise in what area you hit, but any increase in that chance isn't what I would call a hero. The situation where a gun is firing "accidentally" is not, I believe, one where it will be precisely aimed. The time of firing and the accuracy when getting tackled no one can guess where the bullet will end up. It could be a fluke shot and shoot someone square in the forehead, or it could hit someone in the leg. No one knows. Therefore any increase in the chance of an accidental fire where you have no control over the precision of the weapon (When you're getting tackled your arm flails upward), is a risk not worthwhile especially in light of the fact people are getting off the bus all ready. You knew what I meant anyway.
I don't know you, but if I had the choice between having someone point a gun at me being able to shot anytime, or disarming the person, taking the risk of an accidental shot and a even less probable ricochet in the forehead, I'll take the second option.
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On September 05 2009 00:35 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2009 00:33 1tym wrote:On September 05 2009 00:30 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:25 1tym wrote:On September 05 2009 00:20 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:01 1tym wrote:
He is a hero to me. What have any of you done in your lifetime that is even remotely close to what he has done for 22 people that were on the bus other than keyboard warrior-ing on the internet? In fact yes a glorious standing ovation from an unappreciative skeptic like you would be nice I've saved far more than 22 people. Making retarded assumptions on people you've never met is very accurate. /sarc ........... And this coming from a person who likes to make assumptions about the situation he's never been on. There's a difference between retarded assumptions (Based on no evidence), and worthwhile assumptions (based on available evidence). I'll leave it to you to draw the conclusion from this analysis. If you read the thread it's not hard to find out who people think is retarded other than your fanboy KaRnaGe[cF]. People also thought Galileo was retarded. Consensus =/= Correct. Edit: Anyways, I'm done with the thread. I let my position be known. This has turned pretty pointless. You say he's a hero, I don't. Your definition of hero isn't any less subjective than mine.
lol you really just compared yourself to Galileo?
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On September 05 2009 00:35 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2009 00:33 1tym wrote:On September 05 2009 00:30 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:25 1tym wrote:On September 05 2009 00:20 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:01 1tym wrote:
He is a hero to me. What have any of you done in your lifetime that is even remotely close to what he has done for 22 people that were on the bus other than keyboard warrior-ing on the internet? In fact yes a glorious standing ovation from an unappreciative skeptic like you would be nice I've saved far more than 22 people. Making retarded assumptions on people you've never met is very accurate. /sarc ........... And this coming from a person who likes to make assumptions about the situation he's never been on. There's a difference between retarded assumptions (Based on no evidence), and worthwhile assumptions (based on available evidence). I'll leave it to you to draw the conclusion from this analysis. If you read the thread it's not hard to find out who people think is retarded other than your fanboy KaRnaGe[cF]. People also thought Galileo was retarded. Consensus =/= Correct.
There is a fine difference between plain internet nobody retard and well known physicist who made some absurdly bold claims at the time.
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On September 05 2009 00:38 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2009 00:35 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:33 1tym wrote:On September 05 2009 00:30 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:25 1tym wrote:On September 05 2009 00:20 Aegraen wrote:On September 05 2009 00:01 1tym wrote:
He is a hero to me. What have any of you done in your lifetime that is even remotely close to what he has done for 22 people that were on the bus other than keyboard warrior-ing on the internet? In fact yes a glorious standing ovation from an unappreciative skeptic like you would be nice I've saved far more than 22 people. Making retarded assumptions on people you've never met is very accurate. /sarc ........... And this coming from a person who likes to make assumptions about the situation he's never been on. There's a difference between retarded assumptions (Based on no evidence), and worthwhile assumptions (based on available evidence). I'll leave it to you to draw the conclusion from this analysis. If you read the thread it's not hard to find out who people think is retarded other than your fanboy KaRnaGe[cF]. People also thought Galileo was retarded. Consensus =/= Correct. Edit: Anyways, I'm done with the thread. I let my position be known. This has turned pretty pointless. You say he's a hero, I don't. Your definition of hero isn't any less subjective than mine. lol you really just compared yourself to Galileo?
Nope, merely pointing out that having a consensus doesn't mean you are necessarily correct. Way to take what I said to the vapid extreme once again. Anyways, any further discussions with me you guys wish to have PM me please. This thread has moved a ways from its intent in the first place.
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