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abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
February 07 2012 19:03 GMT
#19281
On February 07 2012 23:52 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 10:13 abominare wrote:
On February 07 2012 10:07 Mandini wrote:
On February 07 2012 09:08 abominare wrote:
On February 07 2012 02:37 Mandini wrote:
The argument isnt for the amount of isk being injected into the economy, its the amount of isk added minus the amount of isk taken out. Incursions add isk without a good way of taking it out. At least null has sov fees, explo loot has contract fees, and missions have lp conversions that take away a good deal. Incursions dont have these sinks, you dont get a ton of lp from each site. Therefore the net amount of isk added is significant, where the rest of the isk injection methods are less so.


Theres no isk sink from normal bounties which if IRC was still greater than the bounty payouts of incursions. I would be interested in seeing data on mission payout vs lp payment costs incurred, with the amount of runners who ultimately ignore LP might skew this interestingly enough.

Ultimately where this argument has issues is the concept of inflation. People have been programmed by the real world that inflation is always bad. The yardstick of measuring inflation is not only skewed in comparison to irl, but the notion of what levels would be bad for the economy are not easily translated.

I'd very much argue that inflation in the eve economy is of minor consequence compared to the magic pedestal most players put it on, hell I'd even argue that rather significant inflation is good for the game, which is all relative anyways. Certainly though a game plan that sinks was equal to generation would be a terrible game, since ultimately the money supply (or money in circulation, theres a distinction here though) would be effectively getting smaller every day.

The sink for bounties can be tied to the sov payments.

Also, the total inflation on a certain wednesday was measured to be 950bn.


Is a weak link, secondly that isn't inflation, thats just how much was 'printed' well net gain in printing which doesn't really give you an idea of inflation regardless.

But that's the question. Was the 950b net or gross? If it was net, it is inflation, as it's already adjusted for sinks.


again http://www.investopedia.com/university/inflation/inflation1.asp#axzz1liy8MEeI
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 19:43:01
February 07 2012 19:42 GMT
#19282
Gotta love when you spam to get your pod out and then something like this happens

http://imgur.com/TMV71
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
Ueberlisk
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland455 Posts
February 07 2012 19:54 GMT
#19283
On February 08 2012 04:42 TurpinOS wrote:
Gotta love when you spam to get your pod out and then something like this happens

http://imgur.com/TMV71


wtf your pod has guns?!
I got honor. - Johnny Business
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
February 07 2012 20:35 GMT
#19284
On February 08 2012 04:54 Ueberlisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 04:42 TurpinOS wrote:
Gotta love when you spam to get your pod out and then something like this happens

http://imgur.com/TMV71


wtf your pod has guns?!


his ship didn't exploded.
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
February 07 2012 20:43 GMT
#19285
On February 08 2012 02:45 NathanEO wrote:
New CCP EvE Video up:


Really should be the new intro video to the game. In short the message is: bring time, do the tutorials, join a corp asap.

Very good video for new people
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 21:19:46
February 07 2012 20:52 GMT
#19286
On February 08 2012 04:03 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 23:52 tofucake wrote:
On February 07 2012 10:13 abominare wrote:
On February 07 2012 10:07 Mandini wrote:
On February 07 2012 09:08 abominare wrote:
On February 07 2012 02:37 Mandini wrote:
The argument isnt for the amount of isk being injected into the economy, its the amount of isk added minus the amount of isk taken out. Incursions add isk without a good way of taking it out. At least null has sov fees, explo loot has contract fees, and missions have lp conversions that take away a good deal. Incursions dont have these sinks, you dont get a ton of lp from each site. Therefore the net amount of isk added is significant, where the rest of the isk injection methods are less so.


Theres no isk sink from normal bounties which if IRC was still greater than the bounty payouts of incursions. I would be interested in seeing data on mission payout vs lp payment costs incurred, with the amount of runners who ultimately ignore LP might skew this interestingly enough.

Ultimately where this argument has issues is the concept of inflation. People have been programmed by the real world that inflation is always bad. The yardstick of measuring inflation is not only skewed in comparison to irl, but the notion of what levels would be bad for the economy are not easily translated.

I'd very much argue that inflation in the eve economy is of minor consequence compared to the magic pedestal most players put it on, hell I'd even argue that rather significant inflation is good for the game, which is all relative anyways. Certainly though a game plan that sinks was equal to generation would be a terrible game, since ultimately the money supply (or money in circulation, theres a distinction here though) would be effectively getting smaller every day.

The sink for bounties can be tied to the sov payments.

Also, the total inflation on a certain wednesday was measured to be 950bn.


Is a weak link, secondly that isn't inflation, thats just how much was 'printed' well net gain in printing which doesn't really give you an idea of inflation regardless.

But that's the question. Was the 950b net or gross? If it was net, it is inflation, as it's already adjusted for sinks.


again http://www.investopedia.com/university/inflation/inflation1.asp#axzz1liy8MEeI


To save someone the read, inflation is price rise, which may be caused by oversupply of money, not any and all supply. There's no inflation if 950b worth of stuff (LP, loot, etc.) was "produced" too.
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
February 07 2012 22:32 GMT
#19287
Today I have learned on the EVEO forums that it is hard to tank level 4s in a Navy Domi

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65901&find=unread

and that Scimitars are useless ships, being totally outclassed in their niche role by a single basi

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65765&p=3



Also if you read this Ghost contact me for the cruiser tourney as it seems your opponent is not going to play, as such im your next round.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 01:10:50
February 08 2012 01:04 GMT
#19288
So some lads under the flag of DRAGONSWARM DYNASTY, that are apparently making an effort to take over planetary interaction assets in lonetrek, decided to siege a revelation on a customs office in a pipeline without scouts on either side. One of our scouts spotted them almost immediately. We quickly assembled a fleet, and launched our ambush as soon as the revelation entered a new siege cycle. We smashed their support without effort, and began slowly chiseling away at the dreadnaught, who self destructed.

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12380601

[image loading]
Sylvex
Profile Joined January 2009
United States127 Posts
February 08 2012 01:18 GMT
#19289
This is my picture from before it died. Nothing on field but us and it.

[image loading]
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
February 08 2012 01:37 GMT
#19290
On February 08 2012 10:04 JJoNeEightY wrote:
So some lads under the flag of DRAGONSWARM DYNASTY, that are apparently making an effort to take over planetary interaction assets in lonetrek, decided to siege a revelation on a customs office in a pipeline without scouts on either side. One of our scouts spotted them almost immediately. We quickly assembled a fleet, and launched our ambush as soon as the revelation entered a new siege cycle. We smashed their support without effort, and began slowly chiseling away at the dreadnaught, who self destructed.

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12380601

[image loading]


That is quite the graphics card you got there. Revelation looks like it was built by the minmatar.
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
February 08 2012 01:41 GMT
#19291
To be fair he only has graphics cards trained to lvl 3
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
February 08 2012 01:45 GMT
#19292
In case you're not ironic, it's the capital wreck
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43232 Posts
February 08 2012 02:29 GMT
#19293
Kizu, I repaid you. Bank of KwarK has earned you a cool bil and change.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
February 08 2012 02:51 GMT
#19294
Never would have known Serg, I no kill capitols.

Payment received. Thanks Kwark, now I can kick it back in style and buy myself a mothership.
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
February 08 2012 03:04 GMT
#19295
Sell isk and buy me a new gfx card imo.
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
February 08 2012 03:08 GMT
#19296
No thx, I rather belt rat with a shiny mothership.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
February 08 2012 03:10 GMT
#19297
I'd sell isk if it weren't for CCP's charity drives. When the next one rolls around I'm gonna donate like $1000. It's gonna be awesome.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19153 Posts
February 08 2012 03:17 GMT
#19298
invest in the hatchery

and by that I mean buy us a million tengus
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pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 03:24:28
February 08 2012 03:22 GMT
#19299
On February 08 2012 12:17 tofucake wrote:
invest in the hatchery

and by that I mean buy us a million tengus


I have it in my mind that this would be an unwise financial move given the propensity of some pilots to whelp said tengus.

Also I was down in Lonetrek for a day or two, why thar be no GSO's.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19153 Posts
February 08 2012 03:51 GMT
#19300
It's mostly Tob welping Tengus. I do it occasionally, but I don't have a 2 a day habit like he does.
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