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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On January 22 2012 06:16 Otolia wrote: @ Tarias & Lyk : I will have stable (read paid) internet in the current of next week. So you can either cash in (since I can't sell them soon) or you can wait until I come back which should happen soon. Which option gives me more money? | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
Theoritically the second since I have trade skills that reduces taxes and fees. It should approach around 5M in taxes max. It depends on your need of cash actually (and maybe the market did flinch a bit I dunno) | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On January 22 2012 10:08 Otolia wrote: Theoritically the second since I have trade skills that reduces taxes and fees. It should approach around 5M in taxes max. It depends on your need of cash actually (and maybe the market did flinch a bit I dunno) Will have to plex in the course of the next 9, or maybe 8 by now, days | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv286/Body_Shield/eve__oracle_wallpaper_by_foxgguy2001-d4mybmc.png) shamelessly stolen from deviantart | ||
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Inzek
Chile802 Posts
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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Impervious
Canada4211 Posts
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pahndah
1193 Posts
On January 22 2012 13:27 Impervious wrote: Well, I'm currently losing Maels in Hak at the rate of about 1 a week. I'm clearly not ready for a Mach lol. Maels move at maybe half the speed/align time as a mach =_=, not really comparable in gtfo ability. | ||
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Viceorvirtue
United States273 Posts
Either that or you have no idea how to fit the ship, which is realistically the most likely senario despite the fact that there are plenty of people able to help you with that. If I recall correctly, the last person I gave maelstrom fitting advice to decided to not use it at all. He promptly died in a fire to poor trigger management when the beginner fit I attempted to get him to use wouldve saved him easily due to its massive tank. | ||
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pahndah
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Mandini
United States1717 Posts
On January 22 2012 15:41 Viceorvirtue wrote: On the flipside, Maelstroms dont die. Well they shouldnt unless you fit them poorly or forget to actually use your shield booster. Orrrrrrrrrrr, you burn out your shield booster on the ec- gate | ||
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SilentchiLL
Germany1405 Posts
On January 22 2012 10:08 Otolia wrote: Theoritically the second since I have trade skills that reduces taxes and fees. It should approach around 5M in taxes max. It depends on your need of cash actually (and maybe the market did flinch a bit I dunno) Would it be a problem if the rigs are in Jita or hak(your choice), I saw the prices in rens and compared to those in Jita they were kinda shitty so I thought about shipping them to jita with my salvage. | ||
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Impervious
Canada4211 Posts
On January 22 2012 15:41 Viceorvirtue wrote: On the flipside, Maelstroms dont die. Well they shouldnt unless you fit them poorly or forget to actually use your shield booster. If I had to guess at why you die, I would say poor trigger management and equally bad drone skills. This is the only thing I can think of that would place you in any danger. This is even asuming you dont know the basics of lowering transversal and staying aligned. Either that or you have no idea how to fit the ship, which is realistically the most likely senario despite the fact that there are plenty of people able to help you with that. If I recall correctly, the last person I gave maelstrom fitting advice to decided to not use it at all. He promptly died in a fire to poor trigger management when the beginner fit I attempted to get him to use wouldve saved him easily due to its massive tank. + Show Spoiler + 2012.01.22 01:46:00 Victim: Emil Narud Corp: The Spawning Pool Alliance: Team Liquid Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Maelstrom System: Oraekja Security: 0.7 Damage Taken: 107059 Involved parties: Name: General 'Buck' Turgidson / Amarr Empire (laid the final blow) Damage Done: 74242 Name: Cataclysm Cruise Missile / Unknown Damage Done: 32817 Destroyed items: Phased Plasma L, Qty: 240 Cap Booster 800, Qty: 14 (Cargo) Large Core Defence Capacitor Safeguard I Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Quad LiF Fueled Booster Rockets Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier I V-M15 Braced Multispectral Shield Matrix, Qty: 2 Warrior II, Qty: 4 (Drone Bay) 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Qty: 5 Dropped items: Shield Boost Amplifier I Cap Booster 800, Qty: 5 Phased Plasma L, Qty: 720 Gyrostabilizer II, Qty: 3 X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I Phased Plasma L, Qty: 4079 (Cargo) Tracking Enhancer II, Qty: 2 Warrior II, Qty: 3 (Drone Bay) 800mm Heavy 'Scout' Repeating Artillery I, Qty: 3 Heavy Capacitor Booster II I warped in, realized that I shouldn't have been there (I wanted to warp at 100 but I landed right in the middle of them), turned on my invulns, my booster, aligned and tried to warp, and failed.  If I had a few million more skill points and better equipment, like thermo and better engineering skills + some tech 2 stuff I'm missing, I might have been fine, but, alas, I don't. Although, I am going to get those skills before I step into a mach. Normally I would have used a 2nd boost amplifier instead of the mwd for the mission I died in, but I was just in a different mission where I needed the mwd (The score), and didn't swap it out. It wasn't my mission that I lost it in this time, I was just going to go in at 100, get aggro, and keep it for a minute while Zenith finished the mission, since he whelped his drake in it a few minutes earlier. The 2nd boost amplifier might have helped, but I died before I could even align out, so I might have had 2 boost cycles in total, so I don't think that it would have saved me. Bad drone skills and a bad fit were responsible for the death of my first mael though (although, to be fair, my fit wasn't that bad, the main change I had to make was changing one of my rigs). I wanted to get T2 drones before stepping into my mael, but I got impatient and did it in the opposite order, and promptly lost my mael after 5 or 6 missions lol. | ||
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Cheesedawg
United States182 Posts
http://imgur.com/a/7DVbm I think someone is going to be pretty salty. | ||
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PineapplePizza
United States749 Posts
I must be missing something... | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On January 22 2012 20:14 SilentchiLL wrote: Would it be a problem if the rigs are in Jita or hak(your choice), I saw the prices in rens and compared to those in Jita they were kinda shitty so I thought about shipping them to jita with my salvage. If you decide to sell them on your own, it's up to you to decide where to sell it since I won't earn a penny on the sales. But if you think the prices are higher in Jita then you are mistaken. | ||
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Viceorvirtue
United States273 Posts
Your terrible fit is to blame for your death, not your lack of skills. And yes, the fit was that bad. Never fit resist rigs to a pve mael, use specific hardners, never use a prop mod if your new unless the mission basically requires it (the score) and even then use an afterburner so you can still maintain a decent amount of capacitor. Ideally you want to get to a point where you know what your doing and dont need the cap booster. Cap maintenance and trranversal are what you need to learn, also how to properly fit your ship. 3 mission specific hardeners, 1 shield booster, 1 shield boost amp and 1 cap booster is all you need in your mids. For the score drop a hardner for an afterburner. Specific hardners will do far more than invulns and resist rigs. | ||
KwarK
United States43242 Posts
Anyway, round one + Show Spoiler + [ 2012.01.22 20:20:11 ] X ATM092 > hi [ 2012.01.22 20:20:16 ] X ATM092 > have you sold your account yet? [ 2012.01.22 20:20:18 ] Beepus > hi [ 2012.01.22 20:20:21 ] Beepus > not yet [ 2012.01.22 20:20:29 ] Beepus > in talks now [ 2012.01.22 20:20:39 ] X ATM092 > ah [ 2012.01.22 20:20:47 ] X ATM092 > then you probably won't want my lowball offer [ 2012.01.22 20:20:51 ] Beepus > you interested [ 2012.01.22 20:20:53 ] Beepus > lol [ 2012.01.22 20:21:02 ] Beepus > 15 minimum bid mate [ 2012.01.22 20:21:07 ] X ATM092 > i was drawn by "must sell tonight" [ 2012.01.22 20:21:08 ] Beepus > it's a 66m SP pilot [ 2012.01.22 20:21:32 ] X ATM092 > but not the most narrowly trained one ever [ 2012.01.22 20:21:36 ] X ATM092 > there's more to eve than SP [ 2012.01.22 20:21:38 ] Beepus > dude [ 2012.01.22 20:21:42 ] Beepus > no thanx [ 2012.01.22 20:21:44 ] Beepus > lol Okay, clearly he's retarded. 66m skillpoints do not a high value account make, especially when all it has to it's name are "high corp standings" and "perfect shield compensations". However, undeterred I made the following post on the forums Capiru Jonez said: Posted: 2012.01.22 20:24 | 14b b/o However he replied Beepus said: : 2012.01.22 20:29 | Like *sigh* Guess I'll just have to hang on longer... I have come down 1.5b so far, sorry 14b is too low Despite the op of his topic clearly stating Starting Bid: 12b Reserve: 14b B/O: 17b I replied Capiru Jonez said:2012.01.22 20:31 | Yet you yourself claim 14b is your reserve in your op. You're wasting my time clearly. to which he retorted Beepus said:Posted: 2012.01.22 20:41 | Like WOW! I'm gonna be atatcked because I don't wanna give my toon away for free ? LOL!! Yes, clearly because I offered the stated reserve price when the topic name says "must sell tonight" I want you to give it away. Anyway, now it was on. On a different toon I went for round 3 + Show Spoiler + [ 2012.01.22 20:38:51 ] Jimmy Speed > i saw your topic on the forums [ 2012.01.22 20:38:54 ] Jimmy Speed > is it still open? [ 2012.01.22 20:38:58 ] Beepus > yeah [ 2012.01.22 20:39:02 ] Beepus > soz was in shower [ 2012.01.22 20:39:03 ] Beepus > >.< [ 2012.01.22 20:39:06 ] Jimmy Speed > i'll meet your reserve [ 2012.01.22 20:39:19 ] Beepus > no thanx mate [ 2012.01.22 20:39:29 ] Jimmy Speed > are you sure you know what reserve means? [ 2012.01.22 20:39:45 ] Beepus > my reserve in the forums is 14 [ 2012.01.22 20:40:07 ] Jimmy Speed > 14.5 [ 2012.01.22 20:40:17 ] Beepus > again [ 2012.01.22 20:40:22 ] Beepus > no tahnx 15.5 [ 2012.01.22 20:40:37 ] Jimmy Speed > then good luck [ 2012.01.22 20:40:41 ] Jimmy Speed > not convinced it's worth 15.5 [ 2012.01.22 20:40:42 ] Beepus > o7 He also changed the name of the topic to stop people lowballing him, instead editing in the word POWERHOUSE!!!!! Round 4 Kris Arji said: 2012.01.22 20:49 | These shield skills are where skill points go to die. The compensation skills don't do anything to active hardeners and nobody uses passive hardeners because even with all compensations at V actives are still better. Tactical shield manipulation V is a massive waste of skill points, you actually want that one to be lower in order to increase armour bleed and hold your shield % up so you get more regen. One skill away from t2 siege is another way of saying you have the skill at IV, another way of saying that same thing is "20% of the way towards t2 siege", not quite so impressive that way but whatever. Advertising corp standings as amazing standings is somewhat underwhelming, especially since the highest of these is caldari navy. Admittedly someone who greatly desires cn standings may have a use for your mining skillpoints and your ability to fly hulks but most people don't. All in all, 16b, highest I can go. A 16b offer coming out of the blue after saying why the account is shit with no other accounts to outbid. Seems legit. Beepus said:2012.01.22 20:55 | 16b accepted. Online NOW! So, that should be that. However Kris Arji wasn't online and a new contender entered the fray. Architect Tokila said:2012.01.22 21:01 | Is this account still available? I would like to offer 17b for it. Kris then logged in and convoed him while Architect wasn't online. + Show Spoiler + [ 2012.01.22 21:05:31 ] Kris Arji > hi [ 2012.01.22 21:05:35 ] Kris Arji > so, 16b? [ 2012.01.22 21:07:07 ] Beepus > 1 sec [ 2012.01.22 21:07:55 ] Kris Arji > on the forums you already accepted my bid [ 2012.01.22 21:08:01 ] Kris Arji > what gives? [ 2012.01.22 21:08:18 ] Beepus > did you see the 17b [ 2012.01.22 21:08:23 ] Beepus > You know what [ 2012.01.22 21:08:25 ] Kris Arji > i saw the words accepted [ 2012.01.22 21:08:27 ] Beepus > fine [ 2012.01.22 21:09:32 ] Kris Arji > okay Suddenly Archi logs in [ 2012.01.22 21:09:40 ] Beepus > NO! [ 2012.01.22 21:10:14 ] Kris Arji > posted on the forums [ 2012.01.22 21:10:31 ] Kris Arji > shall we transfer isk and give details? [ 2012.01.22 21:10:37 ] Beepus > no transaction yet [ 2012.01.22 21:10:49 ] Beepus > another offer was placed before you sent isk [ 2012.01.22 21:10:55 ] Beepus > Thanx for the offer [ 2012.01.22 21:10:59 ] Kris Arji > seriously? [ 2012.01.22 21:11:02 ] Kris Arji > you said accepted [ 2012.01.22 21:11:06 ] Kris Arji > both on forums and in game [ 2012.01.22 21:11:32 ] Kris Arji > fuck this His delusional belief that his account was worth 17b and his pure greed in his dealings with me let him down. Kris, betrayed by him several times, stormed off. Meanwhile it wasn't going so well with Architect + Show Spoiler + Beepus > 17b ? Architect Tokila > yep give me like 5 min to get the iskies Architect Tokila > need to take back IOUs from corp mates Beepus > lol Architect Tokila > ok I just phoned my friend, he cant give me back 4b he owes me so the highest I can go is 13b Beepus > serioulsy Beepus > Dude Architect Tokila > man wtf the guys is my best friend playing eve with him for like 3 years Architect Tokila > and he doesnt have the isk Architect Tokila > he never did this before Beepus > I can wait till tomorrow Beepus > best I can do Architect Tokila > Kris Arji > hi<br>Kris Arji > so, 16b?<br>Beepus > 1 sec<br>Kris Arji > on the forums you already accepted my bid<br>Kris Arji > what gives?<br>Beepus > did you see the 17b<br>Beepus > You know what<br>Kris Arji > i saw the words... Architect Tokila > man what is this Architect Tokila > are you trying to scam me? Beepus > no Architect Tokila > the guys says you accepted his offer Beepus > telling him he can have the toon Beepus > you obviously can't get the isk Beepus > ahd 2 offer at the same time Architect Tokila > dude I am fucking lucky I cant get the isk you were trying a double sell or something, his forum post is way before I told you that I cant get the isk Architect Tokila > was trying to get a loan all this time Architect Tokila > is anyone in eve honest Beepus > no Beepus > desperately trying to sell Beepus > have been for a week now Beepus > I ned the isk for my MOM Architect Tokila > I understand the need man, but really now I dont want to accept the loan Architect Tokila > you were trying to sell the account to the five different people in the same time Architect Tokila > wtf Beepus > WHAT ? Beepus > 2 people Beepus > you and the other guy placed offer Beepus > I said yes to him but then YOU offered more Beepus > nothing wrong with accepting a higher bid Beepus > o.O Beepus > CCP rukes state that I have the right to accept another offer before the transfer starts Architect Tokila > and then the guy post a log explicitly stating that you accepted his offer Beepus > no dishonesty intended Architect Tokila > how do I know that once I send you the isk you wont accept his 16b and fuck off Beepus > I said NO Beepus > I got anoother offer Architect Tokila > but put yourself in my position Beepus > well.. it's not allowed for one Beepus > CCP does not allow character sams Architect Tokila > yes but the second I loan the isk i have to pay interest Beepus > tehy replace you isk if you get scammed Beepus > dude! Architect Tokila > and i dont want to spend 800m more Beepus > how the hell are you turning agauinst me Architect Tokila > and you send me back the isk Beepus > I said no to him to accept YOUR offer Architect Tokila > and I get scamed Beepus > wow! Architect Tokila > man in the long long time I have been playing eve I have never did all the dishonest things you did Beepus > you gonna buy or do I have to start selling all over again Architect Tokila > stand up and be a man Beepus > hoiw was I dishonest ? Architect Tokila > you told that guy that you accept his offer Beepus > yes on the forums Beepus > and then you came online Beepus > and I contacted you Beepus > and you agreed 17 Beepus > then I told him no Architect Tokila > and then I saw the forums Beepus > WTF ? Beepus > seriously Architect Tokila > that guy has the right to be annoyed you know Beepus > your loss mate Beepus > i'lll sell it to my mate for 15 Beepus > bye Beepus > o/ So, we're both out of the game but his friend wants to buy it for 15b. I guess that's over. or is it!!!!!! ROUND FIVE! A dramabomb hits the forums. It seems that Kris was pissed off about the betrayal and posted on the forums about it. At first Beepus was hostile in response, assuming he was about to get 17b, but once that deal fell through he went back and started editing posts. Beepus said: 2012.01.22 21:14 | Edited by: Beepus if you had bothered to stay on for 10 more seconds... you would have seen me telkl you that I accept your offer as I said yes to you 1st! Transfer the isk and account details and I will start the transfer ASAP Kris Arji said:2012.01.22 21:20 | You know what, you can keep it. You devalued the name somewhat with this stunt. You've been editing your posts to make it look like you didn't pull some seriously lame **** here but you accepted an offer, closed the bidding, then reopened it, then closed it again, then reopened it again, and you want me to bid for a third time? Beepus said:2012.01.22 21:23 | Edited by: Beepus The forum Rules state that I have the right to accept or refuse an offer up to the point where the trabsaction starts. You placed and offer and I accpeted., few seconds later some1 else offered a better offer. I told the 1st guy no to take THE BETTER OFFER, 2nd guy tell me he doesn't have the isk so as I was about to tell buyer 1 I'll take his offer he EMO RAGE QUIT ?? Seriously ? I'm selling a toon to the hiughest bidder... if that's wrong FINE!! Kris said:Posted: 2012.01.22 21:46 | No, you told me you accepted my bid on the forums and then you got a better offer before I sent the isk. I asked you in game in a conversation with you if you were going to accept my bid anyway, pointing out you had already said you accepted it on the forums and again you said yes. I was about to send the isk, after we'd already discussed the better offer and you'd said you were still going to accept mine, when you changed your mind. Really, really weak move. Beepus said:Posted: 2012.01.22 21:50 | Edited by: Beepus If you don't like people making offers higher than yours I suggest you match offers. I'm available for sale. If you want to troll my thread with your tears let me know and I'll ask CCP to remove them. I'm selling a toon... this is not a charity. Highest offer will get he toon. However, the story of Kris and Beepus isn't over. He sent the following mail Character Sale From: Beepus To: Kris Arji I tell you what.... I'll apologise for trying to get the highest bid and offer the toon to you for 15b. Is that a token of trying to make it right? But it was too late, Kris did not reply. Capiru however was ready for a return Capiru Jonez said:Posted: 2012.01.22 22:07 | oh wow lol, drama going on in here well if you still care ill still pay 14b for it He convoed Capiru in game and round 6 was on + Show Spoiler + --------------------------------------------------------------- Channel ID: -27841082 Channel Name: Private Chat (Beepus) Listener: Capiru Jonez Session started: 2012.01.22 22:18:34 --------------------------------------------------------------- [ 2012.01.22 22:18:39 ] Beepus > hi [ 2012.01.22 22:18:46 ] Capiru Jonez > hi again [ 2012.01.22 22:18:47 ] Beepus > fucking kids and tehir DRAME!! [ 2012.01.22 22:18:49 ] Beepus > DRAMA [ 2012.01.22 22:18:51 ] Beepus > lol [ 2012.01.22 22:19:03 ] Beepus > 14.5 and it's yours [ 2012.01.22 22:19:28 ] Capiru Jonez > i offered you 14.5 earlier [ 2012.01.22 22:19:31 ] Capiru Jonez > and you rejected it [ 2012.01.22 22:19:36 ] Capiru Jonez > and were pretty rude about it too [ 2012.01.22 22:19:37 ] Beepus > yes [ 2012.01.22 22:19:41 ] Beepus > not really [ 2012.01.22 22:19:44 ] Beepus > I said no thanx [ 2012.01.22 22:19:49 ] Beepus > wow! [ 2012.01.22 22:19:58 ] Beepus > is this twilight zone tonight ? [ 2012.01.22 22:21:13 ] Capiru Jonez > i met your reserve and you were like "LOL IM NOT GONNA GIVE IT AWAY FOR FREE LOL" [ 2012.01.22 22:21:23 ] Capiru Jonez > i'm an adult [ 2012.01.22 22:21:27 ] Beepus > i'm still not [ 2012.01.22 22:21:32 ] Capiru Jonez > i made an offer and you were a dick about it [ 2012.01.22 22:21:35 ] Beepus > that's why I said 14,5 [ 2012.01.22 22:21:44 ] Beepus > now I'm being nice about it [ 2012.01.22 22:21:48 ] Capiru Jonez > 14 sir [ 2012.01.22 22:22:01 ] Beepus > Rejected Sir [ 2012.01.22 22:22:08 ] Beepus > Thanx for your offer [ 2012.01.22 22:22:11 ] Capiru Jonez > again i feel you need to google reserve [ 2012.01.22 22:22:20 ] Capiru Jonez > i'm not sure it means what you think it means [ 2012.01.22 22:22:34 ] Beepus > what do you think it means ? [ 2012.01.22 22:22:38 ] Beepus > no sarcasm [ 2012.01.22 22:22:42 ] Beepus > being serious [ 2012.01.22 22:22:56 ] Beepus > actually [ 2012.01.22 22:22:59 ] Beepus > you know what [ 2012.01.22 22:23:12 ] Beepus > I can I be BRUTALLY honest with you [ 2012.01.22 22:23:33 ] Beepus > ? [ 2012.01.22 22:23:52 ] Capiru Jonez > i don't see the need [ 2012.01.22 22:24:06 ] Beepus > I am so frustrated with these kids [ 2012.01.22 22:24:17 ] Beepus > taht I'm probably being a dick [ 2012.01.22 22:24:23 ] Beepus > I apologise for that [ 2012.01.22 22:24:35 ] Beepus > Had a long day at work to walk into this [ 2012.01.22 22:24:57 ] Beepus > give me an hour to transfer my assets and I'll sell for 14 if you still want it [ 2012.01.22 22:25:00 ] Beepus > up to you [ 2012.01.22 22:25:06 ] Beepus > if you don't I'll undrstand [ 2012.01.22 22:25:07 ] Capiru Jonez > yeah, i can imagine [ 2012.01.22 22:25:18 ] Capiru Jonez > okay [ 2012.01.22 22:25:26 ] Beepus > sorry again [ 2012.01.22 22:25:27 ] Capiru Jonez > post on the forum that you accept [ 2012.01.22 22:25:29 ] Beepus > *sigh* [ 2012.01.22 22:25:30 ] Capiru Jonez > i'll transfer the isk [ 2012.01.22 22:25:32 ] Capiru Jonez > i have it right here [ 2012.01.22 22:25:39 ] Beepus > sec# [ 2012.01.22 22:26:04 ] Beepus > done 14 billion isk done | ||
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Shootemup.
United States1044 Posts
On January 23 2012 08:15 KwarK wrote: So, I saw this "amazing" account and we played the 'value that toon' game. We concluded 14b was about right given how much wasted skill points it had but I fancied it so I convoed him to test the waters. His topic was called "must sell tonight" so I figured I could get it for about 14, maybe even less. Just to clear things up, this account is worth 14b, that's a correct valuation, the owner is just retarded. Anyway, round one + Show Spoiler + [ 2012.01.22 20:20:11 ] X ATM092 > hi [ 2012.01.22 20:20:16 ] X ATM092 > have you sold your account yet? [ 2012.01.22 20:20:18 ] Beepus > hi [ 2012.01.22 20:20:21 ] Beepus > not yet [ 2012.01.22 20:20:29 ] Beepus > in talks now [ 2012.01.22 20:20:39 ] X ATM092 > ah [ 2012.01.22 20:20:47 ] X ATM092 > then you probably won't want my lowball offer [ 2012.01.22 20:20:51 ] Beepus > you interested [ 2012.01.22 20:20:53 ] Beepus > lol [ 2012.01.22 20:21:02 ] Beepus > 15 minimum bid mate [ 2012.01.22 20:21:07 ] X ATM092 > i was drawn by "must sell tonight" [ 2012.01.22 20:21:08 ] Beepus > it's a 66m SP pilot [ 2012.01.22 20:21:32 ] X ATM092 > but not the most narrowly trained one ever [ 2012.01.22 20:21:36 ] X ATM092 > there's more to eve than SP [ 2012.01.22 20:21:38 ] Beepus > dude [ 2012.01.22 20:21:42 ] Beepus > no thanx [ 2012.01.22 20:21:44 ] Beepus > lol Okay, clearly he's retarded. 66m skillpoints do not a high value account make, especially when all it has to it's name are "high corp standings" and "perfect shield compensations". However, undeterred I made the following post on the forums However he replied Despite the op of his topic clearly stating I replied to which he retorted Yes, clearly because I offered the stated reserve price when the topic name says "must sell tonight" I want you to give it away. Anyway, now it was on. On a different toon I went for round 3 + Show Spoiler + [ 2012.01.22 20:38:51 ] Jimmy Speed > i saw your topic on the forums [ 2012.01.22 20:38:54 ] Jimmy Speed > is it still open? [ 2012.01.22 20:38:58 ] Beepus > yeah [ 2012.01.22 20:39:02 ] Beepus > soz was in shower [ 2012.01.22 20:39:03 ] Beepus > >.< [ 2012.01.22 20:39:06 ] Jimmy Speed > i'll meet your reserve [ 2012.01.22 20:39:19 ] Beepus > no thanx mate [ 2012.01.22 20:39:29 ] Jimmy Speed > are you sure you know what reserve means? [ 2012.01.22 20:39:45 ] Beepus > my reserve in the forums is 14 [ 2012.01.22 20:40:07 ] Jimmy Speed > 14.5 [ 2012.01.22 20:40:17 ] Beepus > again [ 2012.01.22 20:40:22 ] Beepus > no tahnx 15.5 [ 2012.01.22 20:40:37 ] Jimmy Speed > then good luck [ 2012.01.22 20:40:41 ] Jimmy Speed > not convinced it's worth 15.5 [ 2012.01.22 20:40:42 ] Beepus > o7 He also changed the name of the topic to stop people lowballing him, instead editing in the word POWERHOUSE!!!!! Round 4 A 16b offer coming out of the blue after saying why the account is shit with no other accounts to outbid. Seems legit. So, that should be that. However Kris Arji wasn't online and a new contender entered the fray. Kris then logged in and convoed him while Architect wasn't online. + Show Spoiler + [ 2012.01.22 21:05:31 ] Kris Arji > hi [ 2012.01.22 21:05:35 ] Kris Arji > so, 16b? [ 2012.01.22 21:07:07 ] Beepus > 1 sec [ 2012.01.22 21:07:55 ] Kris Arji > on the forums you already accepted my bid [ 2012.01.22 21:08:01 ] Kris Arji > what gives? [ 2012.01.22 21:08:18 ] Beepus > did you see the 17b [ 2012.01.22 21:08:23 ] Beepus > You know what [ 2012.01.22 21:08:25 ] Kris Arji > i saw the words accepted [ 2012.01.22 21:08:27 ] Beepus > fine [ 2012.01.22 21:09:32 ] Kris Arji > okay Suddenly Archi logs in [ 2012.01.22 21:09:40 ] Beepus > NO! [ 2012.01.22 21:10:14 ] Kris Arji > posted on the forums [ 2012.01.22 21:10:31 ] Kris Arji > shall we transfer isk and give details? [ 2012.01.22 21:10:37 ] Beepus > no transaction yet [ 2012.01.22 21:10:49 ] Beepus > another offer was placed before you sent isk [ 2012.01.22 21:10:55 ] Beepus > Thanx for the offer [ 2012.01.22 21:10:59 ] Kris Arji > seriously? [ 2012.01.22 21:11:02 ] Kris Arji > you said accepted [ 2012.01.22 21:11:06 ] Kris Arji > both on forums and in game [ 2012.01.22 21:11:32 ] Kris Arji > fuck this His delusional belief that his account was worth 17b and his pure greed in his dealings with me let him down. Kris, betrayed by him several times, stormed off. Meanwhile it wasn't going so well with Architect + Show Spoiler + Beepus > 17b ? Architect Tokila > yep give me like 5 min to get the iskies Architect Tokila > need to take back IOUs from corp mates Beepus > lol Architect Tokila > ok I just phoned my friend, he cant give me back 4b he owes me so the highest I can go is 13b Beepus > serioulsy Beepus > Dude Architect Tokila > man wtf the guys is my best friend playing eve with him for like 3 years Architect Tokila > and he doesnt have the isk Architect Tokila > he never did this before Beepus > I can wait till tomorrow Beepus > best I can do Architect Tokila > Kris Arji > hi<br>Kris Arji > so, 16b?<br>Beepus > 1 sec<br>Kris Arji > on the forums you already accepted my bid<br>Kris Arji > what gives?<br>Beepus > did you see the 17b<br>Beepus > You know what<br>Kris Arji > i saw the words... Architect Tokila > man what is this Architect Tokila > are you trying to scam me? Beepus > no Architect Tokila > the guys says you accepted his offer Beepus > telling him he can have the toon Beepus > you obviously can't get the isk Beepus > ahd 2 offer at the same time Architect Tokila > dude I am fucking lucky I cant get the isk you were trying a double sell or something, his forum post is way before I told you that I cant get the isk Architect Tokila > was trying to get a loan all this time Architect Tokila > is anyone in eve honest Beepus > no Beepus > desperately trying to sell Beepus > have been for a week now Beepus > I ned the isk for my MOM Architect Tokila > I understand the need man, but really now I dont want to accept the loan Architect Tokila > you were trying to sell the account to the five different people in the same time Architect Tokila > wtf Beepus > WHAT ? Beepus > 2 people Beepus > you and the other guy placed offer Beepus > I said yes to him but then YOU offered more Beepus > nothing wrong with accepting a higher bid Beepus > o.O Beepus > CCP rukes state that I have the right to accept another offer before the transfer starts Architect Tokila > and then the guy post a log explicitly stating that you accepted his offer Beepus > no dishonesty intended Architect Tokila > how do I know that once I send you the isk you wont accept his 16b and fuck off Beepus > I said NO Beepus > I got anoother offer Architect Tokila > but put yourself in my position Beepus > well.. it's not allowed for one Beepus > CCP does not allow character sams Architect Tokila > yes but the second I loan the isk i have to pay interest Beepus > tehy replace you isk if you get scammed Beepus > dude! Architect Tokila > and i dont want to spend 800m more Beepus > how the hell are you turning agauinst me Architect Tokila > and you send me back the isk Beepus > I said no to him to accept YOUR offer Architect Tokila > and I get scamed Beepus > wow! Architect Tokila > man in the long long time I have been playing eve I have never did all the dishonest things you did Beepus > you gonna buy or do I have to start selling all over again Architect Tokila > stand up and be a man Beepus > hoiw was I dishonest ? Architect Tokila > you told that guy that you accept his offer Beepus > yes on the forums Beepus > and then you came online Beepus > and I contacted you Beepus > and you agreed 17 Beepus > then I told him no Architect Tokila > and then I saw the forums Beepus > WTF ? Beepus > seriously Architect Tokila > that guy has the right to be annoyed you know Beepus > your loss mate Beepus > i'lll sell it to my mate for 15 Beepus > bye Beepus > o/ So, we're both out of the game but his friend wants to buy it for 15b. I guess that's over. or is it!!!!!! ROUND FIVE! A dramabomb hits the forums. It seems that Kris was pissed off about the betrayal and posted on the forums about it. At first Beepus was hostile in response, assuming he was about to get 17b, but once that deal fell through he went back and started editing posts. However, the story of Kris and Beepus isn't over. He sent the following mail But it was too late, Kris did not reply. Capiru however was ready for a return He convoed Capiru in game and round 6 was on + Show Spoiler + --------------------------------------------------------------- Channel ID: -27841082 Channel Name: Private Chat (Beepus) Listener: Capiru Jonez Session started: 2012.01.22 22:18:34 --------------------------------------------------------------- [ 2012.01.22 22:18:39 ] Beepus > hi [ 2012.01.22 22:18:46 ] Capiru Jonez > hi again [ 2012.01.22 22:18:47 ] Beepus > fucking kids and tehir DRAME!! [ 2012.01.22 22:18:49 ] Beepus > DRAMA [ 2012.01.22 22:18:51 ] Beepus > lol [ 2012.01.22 22:19:03 ] Beepus > 14.5 and it's yours [ 2012.01.22 22:19:28 ] Capiru Jonez > i offered you 14.5 earlier [ 2012.01.22 22:19:31 ] Capiru Jonez > and you rejected it [ 2012.01.22 22:19:36 ] Capiru Jonez > and were pretty rude about it too [ 2012.01.22 22:19:37 ] Beepus > yes [ 2012.01.22 22:19:41 ] Beepus > not really [ 2012.01.22 22:19:44 ] Beepus > I said no thanx [ 2012.01.22 22:19:49 ] Beepus > wow! [ 2012.01.22 22:19:58 ] Beepus > is this twilight zone tonight ? [ 2012.01.22 22:21:13 ] Capiru Jonez > i met your reserve and you were like "LOL IM NOT GONNA GIVE IT AWAY FOR FREE LOL" [ 2012.01.22 22:21:23 ] Capiru Jonez > i'm an adult [ 2012.01.22 22:21:27 ] Beepus > i'm still not [ 2012.01.22 22:21:32 ] Capiru Jonez > i made an offer and you were a dick about it [ 2012.01.22 22:21:35 ] Beepus > that's why I said 14,5 [ 2012.01.22 22:21:44 ] Beepus > now I'm being nice about it [ 2012.01.22 22:21:48 ] Capiru Jonez > 14 sir [ 2012.01.22 22:22:01 ] Beepus > Rejected Sir [ 2012.01.22 22:22:08 ] Beepus > Thanx for your offer [ 2012.01.22 22:22:11 ] Capiru Jonez > again i feel you need to google reserve [ 2012.01.22 22:22:20 ] Capiru Jonez > i'm not sure it means what you think it means [ 2012.01.22 22:22:34 ] Beepus > what do you think it means ? [ 2012.01.22 22:22:38 ] Beepus > no sarcasm [ 2012.01.22 22:22:42 ] Beepus > being serious [ 2012.01.22 22:22:56 ] Beepus > actually [ 2012.01.22 22:22:59 ] Beepus > you know what [ 2012.01.22 22:23:12 ] Beepus > I can I be BRUTALLY honest with you [ 2012.01.22 22:23:33 ] Beepus > ? [ 2012.01.22 22:23:52 ] Capiru Jonez > i don't see the need [ 2012.01.22 22:24:06 ] Beepus > I am so frustrated with these kids [ 2012.01.22 22:24:17 ] Beepus > taht I'm probably being a dick [ 2012.01.22 22:24:23 ] Beepus > I apologise for that [ 2012.01.22 22:24:35 ] Beepus > Had a long day at work to walk into this [ 2012.01.22 22:24:57 ] Beepus > give me an hour to transfer my assets and I'll sell for 14 if you still want it [ 2012.01.22 22:25:00 ] Beepus > up to you [ 2012.01.22 22:25:06 ] Beepus > if you don't I'll undrstand [ 2012.01.22 22:25:07 ] Capiru Jonez > yeah, i can imagine [ 2012.01.22 22:25:18 ] Capiru Jonez > okay [ 2012.01.22 22:25:26 ] Beepus > sorry again [ 2012.01.22 22:25:27 ] Capiru Jonez > post on the forum that you accept [ 2012.01.22 22:25:29 ] Beepus > *sigh* [ 2012.01.22 22:25:30 ] Capiru Jonez > i'll transfer the isk [ 2012.01.22 22:25:32 ] Capiru Jonez > i have it right here [ 2012.01.22 22:25:39 ] Beepus > sec# [ 2012.01.22 22:26:04 ] Beepus > done 14 billion isk done Well Played | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
A) The average eve player is greedy AND stupid. B) Everyone in eve who isn't you is statistically Kwark. I second shootemup, well played, sir, well played. | ||
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