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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
January 19 2012 12:28 GMT
#18901
Hey karah nice job against gunpoint, snigger snigger
Moderator
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
January 19 2012 12:31 GMT
#18902
lol that was the most epic fail ever. fail fail fail.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
January 19 2012 12:39 GMT
#18903
Care yo tell the story?
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19228 Posts
January 19 2012 13:55 GMT
#18904
On January 19 2012 12:38 419 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 12:21 tofucake wrote:
"Fighting" and "shooting the bait cyno impel" are different things

I knew it had a cyno, I assume Aeth did too

while I may question the wisdom of using a FULL COMMITTED BRAWLER, it was worth a shot, was pty close or the thanatos was bait tanking us.

PS if you're going to criticize someone for bad you should probably avoid getting solo'd by deimoses in tengu, or losing sleips in retard fashion

I've never even gotten in a Sleip. And I've already acknowledged the Deimos incident was fail. Shut the fuck up.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
January 19 2012 18:49 GMT
#18905
On January 19 2012 16:38 KwarK wrote:
Unfortunately the above mails don't generally reflect the size of the enemy fleets as we tend not to lose much. It's hard to show that we're being outnumbered 5 or 6 to 1 when they can't touch us. Also there are no logis or anything like that used to make fleets stronger and not appear on mails. We don't fly with logis as it discourages huge gangs to attack us. Part of the problem we have these days is with people refusing to go for our fleets so we try to appear as attackable as possible.

oh you stopped using offgrid links?
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
January 19 2012 19:15 GMT
#18906
On January 20 2012 03:49 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 16:38 KwarK wrote:
Unfortunately the above mails don't generally reflect the size of the enemy fleets as we tend not to lose much. It's hard to show that we're being outnumbered 5 or 6 to 1 when they can't touch us. Also there are no logis or anything like that used to make fleets stronger and not appear on mails. We don't fly with logis as it discourages huge gangs to attack us. Part of the problem we have these days is with people refusing to go for our fleets so we try to appear as attackable as possible.

oh you stopped using offgrid links?


blasphemy

We certainly don't do anything without links. why would anyone not have links anyways, oh thats right most eve players suck at this game
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44186 Posts
January 19 2012 21:18 GMT
#18907
On January 20 2012 03:49 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2012 16:38 KwarK wrote:
Unfortunately the above mails don't generally reflect the size of the enemy fleets as we tend not to lose much. It's hard to show that we're being outnumbered 5 or 6 to 1 when they can't touch us. Also there are no logis or anything like that used to make fleets stronger and not appear on mails. We don't fly with logis as it discourages huge gangs to attack us. Part of the problem we have these days is with people refusing to go for our fleets so we try to appear as attackable as possible.

oh you stopped using offgrid links?

Gotta use links man. :p
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
JJoNeEightY
Profile Joined December 2010
United States509 Posts
January 19 2012 21:34 GMT
#18908
On January 20 2012 04:15 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 03:49 Antoine wrote:
On January 19 2012 16:38 KwarK wrote:
Unfortunately the above mails don't generally reflect the size of the enemy fleets as we tend not to lose much. It's hard to show that we're being outnumbered 5 or 6 to 1 when they can't touch us. Also there are no logis or anything like that used to make fleets stronger and not appear on mails. We don't fly with logis as it discourages huge gangs to attack us. Part of the problem we have these days is with people refusing to go for our fleets so we try to appear as attackable as possible.

oh you stopped using offgrid links?


blasphemy

We certainly don't do anything without links. why would anyone not have links anyways, oh thats right most eve players suck at this game


Speak for yourself~

Chest thumping embarrassing in here tbh.
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 22:07:31
January 19 2012 22:01 GMT
#18909
On January 20 2012 06:34 JJoNeEightY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 04:15 abominare wrote:
On January 20 2012 03:49 Antoine wrote:
On January 19 2012 16:38 KwarK wrote:
Unfortunately the above mails don't generally reflect the size of the enemy fleets as we tend not to lose much. It's hard to show that we're being outnumbered 5 or 6 to 1 when they can't touch us. Also there are no logis or anything like that used to make fleets stronger and not appear on mails. We don't fly with logis as it discourages huge gangs to attack us. Part of the problem we have these days is with people refusing to go for our fleets so we try to appear as attackable as possible.

oh you stopped using offgrid links?


blasphemy

We certainly don't do anything without links. why would anyone not have links anyways, oh thats right most eve players suck at this game


Speak for yourself~

Chest thumping embarrassing in here tbh.


Its an over statement of course, but the point is why would you not have links if you could have them?
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
January 19 2012 22:03 GMT
#18910
On January 20 2012 06:18 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 03:49 Antoine wrote:
On January 19 2012 16:38 KwarK wrote:
Unfortunately the above mails don't generally reflect the size of the enemy fleets as we tend not to lose much. It's hard to show that we're being outnumbered 5 or 6 to 1 when they can't touch us. Also there are no logis or anything like that used to make fleets stronger and not appear on mails. We don't fly with logis as it discourages huge gangs to attack us. Part of the problem we have these days is with people refusing to go for our fleets so we try to appear as attackable as possible.

oh you stopped using offgrid links?

Gotta use links man. :p

oh i was just confused because you said you didn't have anything like that used to make fleets stronger and not appear on mails

probably just an accidental oversight though ^^
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44186 Posts
January 19 2012 22:09 GMT
#18911
On January 20 2012 07:01 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 06:34 JJoNeEightY wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:15 abominare wrote:
On January 20 2012 03:49 Antoine wrote:
On January 19 2012 16:38 KwarK wrote:
Unfortunately the above mails don't generally reflect the size of the enemy fleets as we tend not to lose much. It's hard to show that we're being outnumbered 5 or 6 to 1 when they can't touch us. Also there are no logis or anything like that used to make fleets stronger and not appear on mails. We don't fly with logis as it discourages huge gangs to attack us. Part of the problem we have these days is with people refusing to go for our fleets so we try to appear as attackable as possible.

oh you stopped using offgrid links?


blasphemy

We certainly don't do anything without links. why would anyone not have links anyways, oh thats right most eve players suck at this game


Speak for yourself~

Chest thumping embarrassing in here tbh.


Not including SP rifter roams, when have we actually had an op without link in the last few months? I can only think of obvious gank pile ups where we didnt put up links.

If its more than 2-3 people theres links coming up between all the links we have available.

Because all the FCs who FC more than 2-3 people have linkalts. That doesn't mean we can only fight with links. I fight without links from time to time, especially when disturbed in the middle of PvE. However a much bigger criticism imo is that we are overly reliant on a few people to motivate the rest into actually doing PvP, without those nothing much happens. Those people tend to have links.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
January 19 2012 22:20 GMT
#18912
On January 20 2012 07:09 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 07:01 abominare wrote:
On January 20 2012 06:34 JJoNeEightY wrote:
On January 20 2012 04:15 abominare wrote:
On January 20 2012 03:49 Antoine wrote:
On January 19 2012 16:38 KwarK wrote:
Unfortunately the above mails don't generally reflect the size of the enemy fleets as we tend not to lose much. It's hard to show that we're being outnumbered 5 or 6 to 1 when they can't touch us. Also there are no logis or anything like that used to make fleets stronger and not appear on mails. We don't fly with logis as it discourages huge gangs to attack us. Part of the problem we have these days is with people refusing to go for our fleets so we try to appear as attackable as possible.

oh you stopped using offgrid links?


blasphemy

We certainly don't do anything without links. why would anyone not have links anyways, oh thats right most eve players suck at this game


Speak for yourself~

Chest thumping embarrassing in here tbh.


Not including SP rifter roams, when have we actually had an op without link in the last few months? I can only think of obvious gank pile ups where we didnt put up links.

If its more than 2-3 people theres links coming up between all the links we have available.

Because all the FCs who FC more than 2-3 people have linkalts. That doesn't mean we can only fight with links. I fight without links from time to time, especially when disturbed in the middle of PvE. However a much bigger criticism imo is that we are overly reliant on a few people to motivate the rest into actually doing PvP, without those nothing much happens. Those people tend to have links.


Its very natural that not everyone is willing to FC, especially when the expectation of FCing in hatch is beyond the eve status quo of ram closest target and shoot till dead. Naturally the link alts end up in the hands of those wanting to FC, because they fully understand the benefit and don't want to be without.

On the plus side I finish paying you off soon, and shortly thereafter I can go back to solo frig flying, which i've missed terribly, and I of course don't have a link alt.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-19 22:23:32
January 19 2012 22:23 GMT
#18913
I have a link alt

I certainly am not one of those people that motivate the rest to pvp, I just want to f1~
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Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
January 19 2012 23:53 GMT
#18914
[23:17:42] Roweena Azur > LMFAO a bunch of neuts that think they can get away with running an incursion down ehre?
[23:17:44] Roweena Azur > r u fukin serious?
[23:17:47] Roweena Azur > DAMN YALL GOT BALLS
[23:18:00] Roweena Azur > be prepared to be bubbled jammed and popped ladies this is 0 space not hi sec bitches
[23:18:08] Roweena Azur > i see every one of u in channel lmao
[23:21:26] Roweena Azur > hey bitches
[23:21:28] Roweena Azur > guess what
[23:21:33] Roweena Azur > DADDY IS HEREE
[23:21:58] Roweena Azur > YALL GOT SOME FUKIN BALLS MAN
[23:22:09] Roweena Azur > that bhallgorn is gonna be the quickest primary i ever seen pop
[23:22:28] Roweena Azur > i see your fleet-i see yoru wrecks-i know you are active u can go ahead n talk back im sure u scared
[23:22:32] Roweena Azur > time to log the fuck offfffffffffffff
[23:23:41] Roweena Azur > 2 legion drake 2 basi prowler tengu and bhalgorn
[23:23:43] Roweena Azur > so ugly
[23:23:47] Roweena Azur > wheres yer dps?
[23:23:58] Roweena Azur > u use legins and 1 bhaalgorn ? fucking weaksauce bro
[23:24:10] MindShaft > Yes now might be a good time to log off that nation commander
[23:24:16] Roweena Azur > we use machariels and nightmares-get yer money right
[23:31:07] MindShaft > Now at the Nation Mimng Colony Huh
[23:33:14] Roweena Azur > i smell a loki
[23:34:30] MindShaft > yeap i see him too thanks for the verification
[23:35:12] Roweena Azur > legion basi tornado drake basi bhaalgorn drake tengu
[23:35:19] Roweena Azur > im wondering where their dps is for this incursion
[23:35:32] Roweena Azur > no wonder it taking them 15 mins to run a 4 minute site
[23:36:32] Roweena Azur > watch this
[23:36:37] Roweena Azur > u see me on the thing?
[23:36:46] Roweena Azur > this gonna make em run fo sure lol
[23:36:52] MindShaft > i do
[23:37:00] Roweena Azur > lol here we go
[23:37:04] Roweena Azur > BOO MOTHER FUCKERS
[23:37:15] Roweena Azur > boooooooooooooooooooo
[23:37:16] Roweena Azur > booooooooooooooo
[23:37:20] Roweena Azur > weaksauce fleet
[23:37:24] MindShaft > i see them too as they jump from site to site
[23:37:30] Salosar > :-)
[23:37:30] Roweena Azur > this is funny
[23:37:36] Roweena Azur > salosar u missing it
[23:37:47] Salosar > sure
[23:37:58] Roweena Azur > hurry n join the fleet were gonan online a beacon n drop our incurion titans on them
[23:38:15] Roweena Azur > oh snap i gotta poop brb
[23:38:18] Salosar > yep
[23:38:39] Gorski Car > Mind moving me down to your channel ex corp bros
[23:42:57] Roweena Azur > wtf u on our comms for
[23:43:34] Roweena Azur > get OUT BITCH
[23:43:36] Roweena Azur > lol
[23:43:52] Roweena Azur > i cant believe this nigga just got on our comms lmfao
[23:49:13] MindShaft > so <url=showinfo:1377//1192354968>Thorleck</url> you the only one brave enough to do these overrides
[23:53:14] Roweena Azur > he solos them in a drake with an xlarge shield booster fit

he mad
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
January 20 2012 00:39 GMT
#18915
What happened
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
NoSlack
Profile Joined November 2010
United States112 Posts
January 20 2012 00:43 GMT
#18916
On January 19 2012 16:38 KwarK wrote:
Unfortunately the above mails don't generally reflect the size of the enemy fleets as we tend not to lose much. It's hard to show that we're being outnumbered 5 or 6 to 1 when they can't touch us. Also there are no logis or anything like that used to make fleets stronger and not appear on mails. We don't fly with logis as it discourages huge gangs to attack us. Part of the problem we have these days is with people refusing to go for our fleets so we try to appear as attackable as possible.


Actually it sounds like you guys fight exactly like we did in Aeternus. If we had to form a BS fleet it was sniper BS and a few dictors. The rest of the time it was frigs and cruisers. Funny how the killmails don't really show what happened and all of the circumstances involved, but ya'll sure summed me up real quick from them. Fair enough though, I know how it gets on TS when it's all quiet. Someone had something to make the others laugh and talk shit about. I'm not bitter, though.

I'll be bringing my bag of humility when I resub, don't worry. It sounds like you have enough cockiness for me to sit in the corner for awhile until I earn a reason to speak.

Oh it's not cockiness, it's 'eliteness'... Doesn't matter though, long as we kill stuff and have fun.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44186 Posts
January 20 2012 00:54 GMT
#18917
On January 20 2012 09:39 Body_Shield wrote:
What happened

Absolutely nothing. We went into one of their core bearing areas and starting taking their isk. They started by being amazed at our audacity, then shittalked us for a while, then nothing happened.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
January 20 2012 00:55 GMT
#18918
Then i almost fell asleep by the boringness so we decided to call it.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
January 20 2012 00:58 GMT
#18919
I'm currently DLing the free trial, is there a pretty active community (tl wise) to help a newer player out?
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Tarias
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands480 Posts
January 20 2012 01:01 GMT
#18920
On January 20 2012 09:58 GreYMisT wrote:
I'm currently DLing the free trial, is there a pretty active community (tl wise) to help a newer player out?


Na, we just post in the thread alot to make it seem like we play this game.
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