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Russian Federation3631 Posts
On January 09 2012 06:20 Warri wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2012 06:06 419 wrote:On January 07 2012 04:43 TobZero wrote: Oh i Love this. I will so stay in sara and be caldari lowsec ueber. I already make good isk and get some bear kills but once those goodies are live i will just hunt highsec exploring bears coming for the new mods and steal their plexes after blowing them up. I guess i will even hop into that beastly 100mn active fit with those pithum-invulns. Fun times ahead.
2 more days until im back from vacation yeah http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12087080"hey i'm going to get in this 100mn tengu and solo 0wn everyone bcuz its so easy" "oh shit I'm dying to guys that fit triple sebo to recons" needs moar recons on it like this one http://trustthedwarf.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12087825 I count at least 14, probably 15-16 webs there
New counter to 100mn tengu: 14 rapiers, 1 scimitar, gf
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United States41959 Posts
That oracle we lost was not with us. I know he's appearing on our side as a loss but he was not a fleet member, he was a tourist. He will be disciplined.
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Confirming tourist.
I hate flying amarr in pvp. I can't seem to find any good niche, it proved completely worthless in fleet, is useless solo shield tanked, and doesn't have good enough tracking to work really well armor tanked. (Assuming anyone will ever fly with me again,) I'm not going to pvp in anything other than a rifter ever (not quite) again.
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It's an incredible ship in a lot of situations, you just don't want to put it into the optimals of 50 amarr battleships without any angular velocity 
On a related note, flying directly through the middle of that 70 man fleet to hold point on things as they died was pretty cool, gogo 100mn!~
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More like standard Azro solo roam
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
On January 09 2012 11:24 ghost_403 wrote: Confirming tourist.
I hate flying amarr in pvp. I can't seem to find any good niche, it proved completely worthless in fleet, is useless solo shield tanked, and doesn't have good enough tracking to work really well armor tanked. (Assuming anyone will ever fly with me again,) I'm not going to pvp in anything other than a rifter ever (not quite) again. it proved useless because you have no idea how we fly ~
zealot is great, oracle can be great, harb has its charms -- that was not a particularly forgiving fight if you didn't know what you were doing
walking into something like 10k dps at 50 km (I'm lowballing here as it seems half the geddons were shitfit) is not something you want to do unless you have a quick gtfo
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On January 09 2012 06:06 419 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2012 04:43 TobZero wrote: Oh i Love this. I will so stay in sara and be caldari lowsec ueber. I already make good isk and get some bear kills but once those goodies are live i will just hunt highsec exploring bears coming for the new mods and steal their plexes after blowing them up. I guess i will even hop into that beastly 100mn active fit with those pithum-invulns. Fun times ahead.
2 more days until im back from vacation yeah http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12087080"hey i'm going to get in this 100mn tengu and solo 0wn everyone bcuz its so easy" "oh shit I'm dying to guys that fit triple sebo to recons"
1. i never said its easy 2. i said its fun 3. there is a difference between killing bears doing plexes and getting into fights on purpose where you are outnumbered from the start because u want a good fight and fun in pvp.
battlereport to my loss:
the fight started with mach 2 harbs rokh and a daredevil where i repeatedly forced the daredevil off the field but couldnt kill it because i couldnt risk getting into point range. so i shoot the first harb off the field and proceded to damage the second one. i kited them at max range when the rapier landed on the field for the first time (mach pilot reshiped to rapier, probably warped off when he saw i was 100mn). i switched to the rapier and droped it to armor and he warped off. beeing out of range of the previous harb i flew into its direction to apply dmg. when at 100k i was about to align out again when the rapier was back and landed on me at 30. as the tengu turns like a brick with the 100mn i had 4-5sec left to be aligned when the rapier landed so he got point and webs on me. i switched target back to rapier heated my launchers and hoped i could smash him before the 2 additional pilots returned. to my bad they reshiped quite fast and when the rapier was in 40% shield a cyna (probably previous harb pilot) and the daredevil returned to the field. they landed both on the rapier which resulted in them beeing able to attack me within seconds. quad webs then killed me really fast with the sniper rokh still on the field. i went from like 45% shields to 0 in seconds with both invulns heated. when i died the rapier had 2% shields left 
probably the only mistake i made the whole fight was to not gtfo when i forced the rapier off the field the first time. its just to much risk engaging when im solo. maybe i could have handeled my 100mn cycle a bit better to align faster but this was minor error.
that is the second solo tengu i lose and its the second time due to rapier fucking me up. hopfully this wont be so scary anymore when i switch to the active tengu. currently my biggest issues are: 1. falcon 2. rapier(webs) 3. neut with active this list should go 1. falcon 2. neut. rapier(webs) should be no concern anymore if there isnt neut or a lot of dps (which is shouldnt engage anyway)
in the end i at least got lucky with losing skills. i have every sub V except the defensive sub which was at IV. i lost the defensive skill! so instead of 3d its only a few hours 
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
probably the only mistake i made the whole fight was to not gtfo when i forced the rapier off the field the first time. do you know what a minmatar t2 resist profile is?
relatedly, do you know why its typically a bad idea to shoot EM at rapiers?
hopfully this wont be so scary anymore when i switch to the active tengu. but hey, continue to misidentify your issues with not spending enough money on the ships. i personally recommend using 10b vindicators, I hear those are pty good
(I'm actually genuinely confused by your conclusion, are you implying that you would have survived with an active fit? "shit, I was firing the worst ammo possible at the recon, I need to drop 500m on this gist booster"
there are also a number of disadvantages for running active setups which you don't seem to realize at all)
rapier(webs) should be no concern anymore if there isnt neut or a lot of dps (which is shouldnt engage anyway) "rapier webs" and "incoming dps" aren't exactly independent, you know
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Sigh, I'm retarded as fuck. Was trying to get my mach out of schmaeel into highsec, brough my missioning dude and another account to scout. So I scout Oguser, 0 local, 1 other local in Schmaeel who wasn't on scan. jump scout to pherbe, jump machariel in, local +3ed, cane lands right as i'm almost finished aligning, gets point, falcon lands, gg. http://spawningpool.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12093740 I'm so fucking stupid, should have just waited for a proper escort, but the space around there seemed so dead when i scouted it, I figured I could just scout myself out. I'm not even sure how they found me but whatever. Guess I'll have to bear some more to buy another one thats actually in highsec.
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i flew mine out blindly 3jumps there without seeing anyone. I did it 0 minutes after downtime tho...
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Lalalaland34483 Posts
You were unlucky, I pod scouted my way out.
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Hyrule18968 Posts
On January 09 2012 22:13 Tarias wrote:Sigh, I'm retarded as fuck. Was trying to get my mach out of schmaeel into highsec, brough my missioning dude and another account to scout. So I scout Oguser, 0 local, 1 other local in Schmaeel who wasn't on scan. jump scout to pherbe, jump machariel in, local +3ed, cane lands right as i'm almost finished aligning, gets point, falcon lands, gg. http://spawningpool.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12093740I'm so fucking stupid, should have just waited for a proper escort, but the space around there seemed so dead when i scouted it, I figured I could just scout myself out. I'm not even sure how they found me but whatever. Guess I'll have to bear some more to buy another one thats actually in highsec. travel fit yo
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Any ship flying through space should either be stabbed or pvp fit. Even with infinity falcons there, a macha with a mwd could just fly away from drake and cane.
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On January 09 2012 18:51 419 wrote:Show nested quote +probably the only mistake i made the whole fight was to not gtfo when i forced the rapier off the field the first time. do you know what a minmatar t2 resist profile is? relatedly, do you know why its typically a bad idea to shoot EM at rapiers?
oh holy shit i was so sure that minmatar was em weak. after looking it up now again i see how retarded it was to shoot thunders. that totaly changes everything and i only lost my ship because im retarded as fuck and shoot the wrong ammo..... omg. had i not been so stupid i would have cleared the situation quite easy ...ahaaaaaaaaaaa /selfrage
even when i hate your somehow always insulting comments i really appreciate it as it helps me get better - even if its a slow process. gonna write those fucking racial resist profiles on a note and stick it on my screen so i can stop sucking so hard.
On January 09 2012 18:51 419 wrote: (I'm actually genuinely confused by your conclusion, are you implying that you would have survived with an active fit? "shit, I was firing the worst ammo possible at the recon, I need to drop 500m on this gist booster"
there are also a number of disadvantages for running active setups which you don't seem to realize at all)
i definatly dont blame the loss on my fit. the fit is fine as it is. im 100% aware that its my errors that lead to death! you are right that it is stupid to fly more expensive fits when i still make mistakes like useing wrong ammo. i really need to stop doing this - totaly avoidable. what would be the other disadvantages you think i dont realize at from flying an active fit?
dont say rapier dont do dps. what i meant more is that when im active tanked and get webbed i wont die in such short ammount of time as the buffer tengu which relies on its speed a lot to prevent dmg. once that speed is gone im basicly bare ass on hot cloals.
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So is the active tengu, it doesnt tank as much as you think it does unless you crystal, siegelink and bluepill it up. It also costs at least twice the price. I suggest learning pvp in a nanodrake before switching to tengu for solo stuff..
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On January 09 2012 22:13 Tarias wrote:Sigh, I'm retarded as fuck. Was trying to get my mach out of schmaeel into highsec, brough my missioning dude and another account to scout. So I scout Oguser, 0 local, 1 other local in Schmaeel who wasn't on scan. jump scout to pherbe, jump machariel in, local +3ed, cane lands right as i'm almost finished aligning, gets point, falcon lands, gg. http://spawningpool.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12093740I'm so fucking stupid, should have just waited for a proper escort, but the space around there seemed so dead when i scouted it, I figured I could just scout myself out. I'm not even sure how they found me but whatever. Guess I'll have to bear some more to buy another one thats actually in highsec.
At least they put that fit out of it's misery. What the fuck was that mach doing in lowsec like that. We're the TL alliance not fucking Moa/Nemesis.
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uh its a viable incursion fit.
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