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On August 22 2011 03:57 Risen wrote:http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10470937ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Ran into my first gate camp in that system, never seen one there, thought it was "safe". I swear they just set up bots, no one is that fast, I don't care if you're sensor boosted and have an auto targeting system. You have to press a hotkey still, right? T_T lol damn, my new ratting ship killed before it could even make me any iskies >:O Time to go make another D: ((And no, I refuse to fly anything above frigate class tyvm)) On another note, all these losses starting to pinch my fuckin wallet. Down below 1b for the first time in like 2 months. Should probably go back to missioning for a bit, but it's so borrrrring T_T
Is Aunenen the first jump into lowsec from nonni? If so that gate is camped on the reg, when I was moving down here i jumped into it with my drake like a boss but apparently all of my missles were offline so I somehow warped out like a drake boss.
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On August 22 2011 04:00 s0Li wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 03:57 Risen wrote:http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10470937ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Ran into my first gate camp in that system, never seen one there, thought it was "safe". I swear they just set up bots, no one is that fast, I don't care if you're sensor boosted and have an auto targeting system. You have to press a hotkey still, right? T_T lol damn, my new ratting ship killed before it could even make me any iskies >:O Time to go make another D: ((And no, I refuse to fly anything above frigate class tyvm)) On another note, all these losses starting to pinch my fuckin wallet. Down below 1b for the first time in like 2 months. Should probably go back to missioning for a bit, but it's so borrrrring T_T Is Aunenen the first jump into lowsec from nonni? If so that gate is camped on the reg, when I was moving down here i jumped into it with my drake like a boss but apparently all of my missles were offline so I somehow warped out like a drake boss.
It is lol, Rancer and Aunenen have been checked off from my "systems to die in" list.
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On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners?  I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning? We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc.
For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper.
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On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning? We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc. For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper.
Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life
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This is why I'm not getting a Nightmare.
Although a Nightmare would have been able to redock through that.
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Incursions are easy money.
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On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning? We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc. For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper. Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life
If you start mining in a frigate the startup cost is only 1m or so. From there on just build the stuff with your own mined minerals and its free except for the bpc costs(very little).
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On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning? We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc. For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper. Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life It's not. This is very detailed and accurate intel on Hatchery. Well at least according to what was said by the best learning corporation in the game.
Also, FB you got out-mach'd
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On August 22 2011 05:52 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning? We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc. For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper. Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life It's not. This is very detailed and accurate intel on Hatchery. Well at least according to what was said by the best learning corporation in the game. Also, FB you got out-mach'd
If you buy a ship it costs isk. If you make a ship it doesn't. You can't explain that.
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On August 22 2011 05:59 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 05:52 redtooth wrote:On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning? We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc. For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper. Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life It's not. This is very detailed and accurate intel on Hatchery. Well at least according to what was said by the best learning corporation in the game. Also, FB you got out-mach'd If you buy a ship it costs isk. If you make a ship it doesn't. You can't explain that.
Can't stop laughing hahaha
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On August 22 2011 05:59 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 05:52 redtooth wrote:On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning? We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc. For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper. Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life It's not. This is very detailed and accurate intel on Hatchery. Well at least according to what was said by the best learning corporation in the game. Also, FB you got out-mach'd If you buy a ship it costs isk. If you make a ship it doesn't. You can't explain that.
Yes it doesn't cost you much isk but you lose isk in other ways. Time spent training mining skills is time not spent training skills that are more profitable or fun. The time you spend mining is time that could have been spent doing more profitable or fun things. I realise that as EVE players it's not like we put a high value on our time but come on this is simple economic theory
-e- also how could you ever advise anyone to mine
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On August 22 2011 09:28 Kwidowmaker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 05:59 KwarK wrote:On August 22 2011 05:52 redtooth wrote:On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning? We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc. For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper. Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life It's not. This is very detailed and accurate intel on Hatchery. Well at least according to what was said by the best learning corporation in the game. Also, FB you got out-mach'd If you buy a ship it costs isk. If you make a ship it doesn't. You can't explain that. Yes it doesn't cost you much isk but you lose isk in other ways. Time spent training mining skills is time not spent training skills that are more profitable or fun. The time you spend mining is time that could have been spent doing more profitable or fun things. I realise that as EVE players it's not like we put a high value on our time but come on this is simple economic theory -e- also how could you ever advise anyone to mine
edit: don't ruin this val
My edit; It's my only role in life.
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On August 22 2011 09:28 Kwidowmaker wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2011 05:59 KwarK wrote:On August 22 2011 05:52 redtooth wrote:On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning? We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc. For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper. Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life It's not. This is very detailed and accurate intel on Hatchery. Well at least according to what was said by the best learning corporation in the game. Also, FB you got out-mach'd If you buy a ship it costs isk. If you make a ship it doesn't. You can't explain that. Yes it doesn't cost you much isk but you lose isk in other ways. Time spent training mining skills is time not spent training skills that are more profitable or fun. The time you spend mining is time that could have been spent doing more profitable or fun things. I realise that as EVE players it's not like we put a high value on our time but come on this is simple economic theory
I'm pretty sure taking the opportunity to mine doesn't cost you anything. There's like zero chance of dying and you get minerals. If you don't use them to make ships you could sell them. You're right that you could make isk which you could choose to turn into a ship or keep as isk but you don't realise that you could make veldspar which you could choose to turn into isk (by selling) or use as minerals in a ship. Basically minerals are like isk and if you can make minerals easily by mining then that's like free money.
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saw val's post sorry
You've not answered how you could tell someone to mine with a clear conscience
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On August 22 2011 09:59 Kwidowmaker wrote:
saw val's post sorry
You've not answered how you could tell someone to mine with a clear conscience
THE JIG IS UP! And... we be pirates yarrrrr
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I'm pretty sure taking the opportunity to mine doesn't cost you anything.
I don't think he is trolling to clear his conscience.
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