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s0Li
Profile Joined September 2010
United States406 Posts
August 21 2011 19:00 GMT
#14881
On August 22 2011 03:57 Risen wrote:
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10470937

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Ran into my first gate camp in that system, never seen one there, thought it was "safe". I swear they just set up bots, no one is that fast, I don't care if you're sensor boosted and have an auto targeting system. You have to press a hotkey still, right? T_T lol damn, my new ratting ship killed before it could even make me any iskies >:O

Time to go make another D:

((And no, I refuse to fly anything above frigate class tyvm))

On another note, all these losses starting to pinch my fuckin wallet. Down below 1b for the first time in like 2 months. Should probably go back to missioning for a bit, but it's so borrrrring T_T



Is Aunenen the first jump into lowsec from nonni? If so that gate is camped on the reg, when I was moving down here i jumped into it with my drake like a boss but apparently all of my missles were offline so I somehow warped out like a drake boss.
I don't wanna hear excuses, I wanna hear solutions...
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 21 2011 19:46 GMT
#14882
On August 22 2011 04:00 s0Li wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 03:57 Risen wrote:
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10470937

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Ran into my first gate camp in that system, never seen one there, thought it was "safe". I swear they just set up bots, no one is that fast, I don't care if you're sensor boosted and have an auto targeting system. You have to press a hotkey still, right? T_T lol damn, my new ratting ship killed before it could even make me any iskies >:O

Time to go make another D:

((And no, I refuse to fly anything above frigate class tyvm))

On another note, all these losses starting to pinch my fuckin wallet. Down below 1b for the first time in like 2 months. Should probably go back to missioning for a bit, but it's so borrrrring T_T



Is Aunenen the first jump into lowsec from nonni? If so that gate is camped on the reg, when I was moving down here i jumped into it with my drake like a boss but apparently all of my missles were offline so I somehow warped out like a drake boss.


It is lol, Rancer and Aunenen have been checked off from my "systems to die in" list.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43470 Posts
August 21 2011 20:03 GMT
#14883
On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:
Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning?
We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc.

For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 20:16:44
August 21 2011 20:10 GMT
#14884
Hey kwark i lost my mach!

(goddamn station bumped me as i was aligning out -_-)

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10471689
Moderator
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
August 21 2011 20:20 GMT
#14885
On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:
Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning?
We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc.

For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper.


Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life
Kk.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
August 21 2011 20:21 GMT
#14886
On August 22 2011 05:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
Hey kwark i lost my mach!

(goddamn station bumped me as i was aligning out -_-)

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10471689

This is why I'm not getting a Nightmare.

Although a Nightmare would have been able to redock through that.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19189 Posts
August 21 2011 20:37 GMT
#14887
Incursions are easy money.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 21 2011 20:51 GMT
#14888
On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:
Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning?
We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc.

For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper.


Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life

If you start mining in a frigate the startup cost is only 1m or so. From there on just build the stuff with your own mined minerals and its free except for the bpc costs(very little).
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
August 21 2011 20:52 GMT
#14889
On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:
Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning?
We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc.

For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper.


Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life
It's not. This is very detailed and accurate intel on Hatchery. Well at least according to what was said by the best learning corporation in the game.

Also, FB you got out-mach'd
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34500 Posts
August 21 2011 20:59 GMT
#14890
I see what you did there
Moderator
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43470 Posts
August 21 2011 20:59 GMT
#14891
On August 22 2011 05:52 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:
Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning?
We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc.

For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper.


Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life
It's not. This is very detailed and accurate intel on Hatchery. Well at least according to what was said by the best learning corporation in the game.

Also, FB you got out-mach'd

If you buy a ship it costs isk. If you make a ship it doesn't. You can't explain that.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 21 2011 21:10 GMT
#14892
On August 22 2011 05:59 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 05:52 redtooth wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:
Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning?
We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc.

For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper.


Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life
It's not. This is very detailed and accurate intel on Hatchery. Well at least according to what was said by the best learning corporation in the game.

Also, FB you got out-mach'd

If you buy a ship it costs isk. If you make a ship it doesn't. You can't explain that.


Can't stop laughing hahaha
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 23:18:49
August 21 2011 23:01 GMT
#14893
Best intel pilot evar

Edit

What began with this http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10472848

Led into this!

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10473246

I'll write up more later about how hard it was to get everyone to drag their asses out to the fight. We could have had a RORQUAL!!!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
August 21 2011 23:38 GMT
#14894
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10473169

Yay Succubus
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 00:31:12
August 22 2011 00:28 GMT
#14895
On August 22 2011 05:59 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 05:52 redtooth wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:
Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning?
We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc.

For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper.


Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life
It's not. This is very detailed and accurate intel on Hatchery. Well at least according to what was said by the best learning corporation in the game.

Also, FB you got out-mach'd

If you buy a ship it costs isk. If you make a ship it doesn't. You can't explain that.


Yes it doesn't cost you much isk but you lose isk in other ways. Time spent training mining skills is time not spent training skills that are more profitable or fun. The time you spend mining is time that could have been spent doing more profitable or fun things. I realise that as EVE players it's not like we put a high value on our time but come on this is simple economic theory

-e- also how could you ever advise anyone to mine
Kk.
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 01:02:53
August 22 2011 00:33 GMT
#14896
On August 22 2011 09:28 Kwidowmaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 05:59 KwarK wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:52 redtooth wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:
Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning?
We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc.

For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper.


Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life
It's not. This is very detailed and accurate intel on Hatchery. Well at least according to what was said by the best learning corporation in the game.

Also, FB you got out-mach'd

If you buy a ship it costs isk. If you make a ship it doesn't. You can't explain that.


Yes it doesn't cost you much isk but you lose isk in other ways. Time spent training mining skills is time not spent training skills that are more profitable or fun. The time you spend mining is time that could have been spent doing more profitable or fun things. I realise that as EVE players it's not like we put a high value on our time but come on this is simple economic theory

-e- also how could you ever advise anyone to mine


edit: don't ruin this val

My edit; It's my only role in life.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43470 Posts
August 22 2011 00:35 GMT
#14897
On August 22 2011 09:28 Kwidowmaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 05:59 KwarK wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:52 redtooth wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:20 Kwidowmaker wrote:
On August 22 2011 05:03 KwarK wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:05 redtooth wrote:
On August 21 2011 15:00 TerraTron wrote:
Do we have any people in the corp who are manly miners? I'm trying to make ISK but can't do what most of the TL corp appears to do (contract snipe). Or does everyone have insane money flowing in from missioning?
We have a Hatchery logistics branch that conducts corp mining operations. If this branch was attacked or disrupted in any manner by enemies, our income flow would be severely disrupted and we would have to rely on our ammo-trading CEO to financially bail us out. This is why the best way to fight Hatchery is to send frequent raids into our systems, attack our supplies, miners etc.

For a while we bought ships to replace our losses with the money taken from the wrecks of our enemies but those ships can cost isk. If you mine the minerals yourself and make the ships with your own blueprints then they don't cost anything which is therefore cheaper.


Is this some KwarK sarcasm? Not only does mining have startup and opportunity costs, it also drains your soul of life
It's not. This is very detailed and accurate intel on Hatchery. Well at least according to what was said by the best learning corporation in the game.

Also, FB you got out-mach'd

If you buy a ship it costs isk. If you make a ship it doesn't. You can't explain that.


Yes it doesn't cost you much isk but you lose isk in other ways. Time spent training mining skills is time not spent training skills that are more profitable or fun. The time you spend mining is time that could have been spent doing more profitable or fun things. I realise that as EVE players it's not like we put a high value on our time but come on this is simple economic theory

I'm pretty sure taking the opportunity to mine doesn't cost you anything. There's like zero chance of dying and you get minerals. If you don't use them to make ships you could sell them. You're right that you could make isk which you could choose to turn into a ship or keep as isk but you don't realise that you could make veldspar which you could choose to turn into isk (by selling) or use as minerals in a ship. Basically minerals are like isk and if you can make minerals easily by mining then that's like free money.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
August 22 2011 00:59 GMT
#14898
saw val's post sorry

You've not answered how you could tell someone to mine with a clear conscience
Kk.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
August 22 2011 01:18 GMT
#14899
On August 22 2011 09:59 Kwidowmaker wrote:
saw val's post sorry

You've not answered how you could tell someone to mine with a clear conscience


THE JIG IS UP! And... we be pirates yarrrrr
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
gyth
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
657 Posts
August 22 2011 01:22 GMT
#14900
I'm pretty sure taking the opportunity to mine doesn't cost you anything.

I don't think he is trolling to clear his conscience.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
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