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Hyrule19260 Posts
Kathya (7 merc) showed up in local with a Raptor and a Drake in Gelf on the Odd gate. So as I form up a fleet I launch a salvo of smack talk
That does more damage than I thought, and I launch a second salvo
[19:42:37] tofucake prime > come out french people
[19:42:47] tofucake prime > its hard to bait when weve already seen your backup
[19:42:52] tofucake prime > we want to fight you
2 seconds later Kathya disappears from local and by the time I get Gelf scouted it's empty.
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Maybe someone was jealous of the corpse throne and wanted to make a rifter throne.
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Total noob here. I played this game for a month a year back and I decided to reactivate my account. I didn't know anyone in the game but now I'm starting with 2 friends. I'm completely stomped on what to do. Could someone help me out a bit?
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Nullsec is a giant game of musical chairs
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Hyrule19260 Posts
Musical chairs my ass. The entire eastern half of the galaxy is Russians.
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Lol Tofu. You're an ass to me, then you gag me in GA when you get called out? Manner plz :O
((If it isn't you, apologies! But you're still an ass :<))
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Hyrule19260 Posts
You spend 2 months in the game, most of it inactive, to come in and call a vet giving you advice dumb, then I call you on it and you tell me off.
Shut up.
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Lol, what? What advice did you give me?
I say in GA that some guy wants to 1v1 me in my firetail vs his dram. I say he's an idiot if he thinks I'm going to fight him. Michael asks where he is, I tell him. Someone asks who it is, I say Nergalion. You proceed to fail reading comprehension and say something along the lines of "he's not an idiot you're an idiot. He's a really good 1v1 frig pilot"
Really? No shit, sherlock.
Edit: Oh, and then when I ask why he told me I didn't need to worry about gate guns, you told me he was a pirate and that I was dumb. So, I called you an ass, because not only did you jump into a conversation which you knew nothing about, you didn't bother reading everything that had happened in the conversation.
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Hyrule19260 Posts
In actuality you gave a shit recap of the entire situation. It started with an evemail about "free shoot red", then you said he was dumb if he wanted to 1v1, then I said all he does is frig 1v1s and he's pretty good at them, and asked what you were in and you said he was dumb again and that you were in a Firetail. Then moved on to local chat with nergalion, then returned to evemail. Then I told you he's a pirate and what he meant was that you can shoot him without taking gate guns, then it returned to him being dumb again, and which point I called you dumb because you weren't making any fucking sense and then you insult me.
Shut up.
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yeha, my first ever 1on1 fight and lost it without a chance. What happened in a nutshell:
Saw a helios, we were both looking for each other and he warped to me on 70km range on plan IV (I was on 70km, he warped to 0), which gave me enough time to ask in GA, since I NEVER did 1v1.
So I asked if I can beat a helios in a basic rifter, tofu said yes, I engaged, I died.
When I was talking about basic rifter I was talking about fleet rifter, which I know sux in 1v1 but hell, it's a cov-ops and tofu thought I was talking about a basic 1v1 rifter 
Go ahead flame me for being a noob
Nevertheless, I would actually like to get a bit into 1v1ing to get some experience. So I know there's a solo-rifter fit in corp, is that going to work? What do I need skillwise? Would be awesome if someone could tell me a few things and how to get startet or if this is a completly retarded idea in the first place and I will only end up screwing corp stats.
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Hyrule19260 Posts
I didn't say yes, I said "meh, shoot it".
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I'm thinking of taking my Dramiel out for a spin soon, Apart from Gall Frig V and Traj Analysis IV/V what else would people recommend?
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What you asking is if the solo fit rifter is any good for solo. I honestly dont know what to say. Maybe you should take a look at it. If you show info on modules and go to the prerequisites tab you can see if you can use them as well as what skills you need to use them.
But then again you dont even know if the solo rifter fit is good for soloing. I would have to agree it's hard to tell since you arent able to tell the purpose of a fit by its name.
Seriously though a properly fit battle helios or buzzard is going to give most frigates trouble unless you are able to literally start on 0 with everything heated. And dont use the fleet tackle fit for 1v1. Its purpose is to be really fast and cheap to quickly get tackle on something, then die, not something you tend to want out of a 1v1 fit.
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On July 21 2011 08:59 tofucake wrote:
Musical chairs my ass. The entire eastern half of the galaxy is Russians.
Nullsec is a game of musical Supercaps.
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On July 21 2011 10:36 tofucake wrote:
In actuality you gave a shit recap of the entire situation. It started with an evemail about "free shoot red", then you said he was dumb if he wanted to 1v1, then I said all he does is frig 1v1s and he's pretty good at them, and asked what you were in and you said he was dumb again and that you were in a Firetail. Then moved on to local chat with nergalion, then returned to evemail. Then I told you he's a pirate and what he meant was that you can shoot him without taking gate guns, then it returned to him being dumb again, and which point I called you dumb because you weren't making any fucking sense and then you insult me.
Shut up.
If you would take the time to actually look over what was said, you would see that it actually started with me talking about not wanting to 1v1 a dram in a firetail.
+ Show Spoiler +[ 2011.07.21 00:15:49 ] Risen Fem > firetail vs dram
[ 2011.07.21 00:15:50 ] Risen Fem > I think not
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:02 ] Risen Fem > some idiot is trying to get me to 1v1 him lol
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:07 ] Michael Harari > who?
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:09 ] Michael Harari > and where
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:13 ] Risen Fem > Nergalion
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:22 ] Risen Fem > was Muttokon
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:36 ] tofucake prime > hes not an idiot
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:43 ] tofucake prime > you are if you think he is
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:53 ] Risen Fem > he just sent me a mail saying red pilots free shoot
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:01 ] tofucake prime > yeah
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:07 ] tofucake prime > all he does is frig battles
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:12 ] Risen Fem > ok?
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:21 ] Risen Fem > I said he's an idiot if he thinks I'll 1v1 his dram in my firetail
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:33 ] Hannah Senesh > what is your firetail fit?
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:45 ] Hannah Senesh > you could go ab, web, ecm, scram
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:48 ] Risen Fem > 150 ACs
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:50 ] tofucake prime > did he send you a mail saying "risen, bring your firetail to 1v1 my dram"?
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:50 ] Risen Fem > dram will shit on me
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:57 ] Hannah Senesh > Diablo Venator > 4 x mach gate camp on atlar>gelf gate
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:59 ] Toades > there's like 20 million probes in space right now^^
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:06 ] Risen Fem > he told me to in local, when I said I wouldn't agress b/c of gate guns
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:11 ] Risen Fem > he said red is free shoot
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:21 ] tofucake prime > yeah hes a pirate
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:36 ] tofucake prime > how is that a mail if youre talking in local?
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:45 ] Risen Fem > so if you're red, even in low sec gate guns won't shoot you?
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:47 ] Risen Fem > I left local
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:51 ] Risen Fem > he sent me a mail after I left
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:53 ] tofucake prime > if youre red
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:57 ] tofucake prime > anyone can shoot you
[ 2011.07.21 00:19:03 ] tofucake prime > its called being a pirate
[ 2011.07.21 00:19:12 ] tofucake prime > and i have decided you are dumb
[ 2011.07.21 00:19:38 ] Risen Fem > and you're an ass, where does that leave us?
[ 2011.07.21 00:19:46 ] Risen Fem > me still thinking he's an idiot if he wants me to fight him
Looks to me like you insulted me first. Did you forget there were such things as chatlogs?
You should be most familiar with them. Shit man, you called someone out over a TL IRC chatlog and you expect me not to have a game chat log?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207959
This could have all been avoided had you taken the time to read the first three lines before jumping in to voice your ((irrelevant)) opinion. Maybe things would have made more sense to you if you'd read everything? One thing I will thank you for, though, is telling me I could shoot pirates even if there were gate guns.
On a friendlier note.
http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4662&tid=1
Buddy plex system is back. Mentors don't need to worry about being cheap anymore :D
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Hyrule19260 Posts
On July 21 2011 12:27 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2011 10:36 tofucake wrote:
In actuality you gave a shit recap of the entire situation. It started with an evemail about "free shoot red", then you said he was dumb if he wanted to 1v1, then I said all he does is frig 1v1s and he's pretty good at them, and asked what you were in and you said he was dumb again and that you were in a Firetail. Then moved on to local chat with nergalion, then returned to evemail. Then I told you he's a pirate and what he meant was that you can shoot him without taking gate guns, then it returned to him being dumb again, and which point I called you dumb because you weren't making any fucking sense and then you insult me.
Shut up. If you would take the time to actually look over what was said, you would see that it actually started with me talking about not wanting to 1v1 a dram in a firetail. + Show Spoiler +[ 2011.07.21 00:15:49 ] Risen Fem > firetail vs dram
[ 2011.07.21 00:15:50 ] Risen Fem > I think not
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:02 ] Risen Fem > some idiot is trying to get me to 1v1 him lol
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:07 ] Michael Harari > who?
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:09 ] Michael Harari > and where
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:13 ] Risen Fem > Nergalion
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:22 ] Risen Fem > was Muttokon
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:36 ] tofucake prime > hes not an idiot
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:43 ] tofucake prime > you are if you think he is
[ 2011.07.21 00:16:53 ] Risen Fem > he just sent me a mail saying red pilots free shoot
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:01 ] tofucake prime > yeah
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:07 ] tofucake prime > all he does is frig battles
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:12 ] Risen Fem > ok?
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:21 ] Risen Fem > I said he's an idiot if he thinks I'll 1v1 his dram in my firetail
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:33 ] Hannah Senesh > what is your firetail fit?
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:45 ] Hannah Senesh > you could go ab, web, ecm, scram
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:48 ] Risen Fem > 150 ACs
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:50 ] tofucake prime > did he send you a mail saying "risen, bring your firetail to 1v1 my dram"?
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:50 ] Risen Fem > dram will shit on me
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:57 ] Hannah Senesh > Diablo Venator > 4 x mach gate camp on atlar>gelf gate
[ 2011.07.21 00:17:59 ] Toades > there's like 20 million probes in space right now^^
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:06 ] Risen Fem > he told me to in local, when I said I wouldn't agress b/c of gate guns
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:11 ] Risen Fem > he said red is free shoot
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:21 ] tofucake prime > yeah hes a pirate
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:36 ] tofucake prime > how is that a mail if youre talking in local?
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:45 ] Risen Fem > so if you're red, even in low sec gate guns won't shoot you?
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:47 ] Risen Fem > I left local
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:51 ] Risen Fem > he sent me a mail after I left
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:53 ] tofucake prime > if youre red
[ 2011.07.21 00:18:57 ] tofucake prime > anyone can shoot you
[ 2011.07.21 00:19:03 ] tofucake prime > its called being a pirate
[ 2011.07.21 00:19:12 ] tofucake prime > and i have decided you are dumb
[ 2011.07.21 00:19:38 ] Risen Fem > and you're an ass, where does that leave us?
[ 2011.07.21 00:19:46 ] Risen Fem > me still thinking he's an idiot if he wants me to fight him Looks to me like you insulted me first. Did you forget there were such things as chatlogs? You should be most familiar with them. Shit man, you called someone out over a TL IRC chatlog and you expect me not to have a game chat log? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=207959This could have all been avoided had you taken the time to read the first three lines before jumping in to voice your ((irrelevant)) opinion. Maybe things would have made more sense to you if you'd read everything? One thing I will thank you for, though, is telling me I could shoot pirates even if there were gate guns. On a friendlier note. http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=4662&tid=1Buddy plex system is back. Mentors don't need to worry about being cheap anymore :D
I couldn't be bothered to go dig the logs out to post. But the third thing you said, before I even started talking, was you calling a vet and a good player an idiot.
Shut the fuck up already.
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Nergalion is a pirate. This means that you can shoot him anywhere at any time and gateguns will not protect him. It does not matter what your personal security status is. If your target as -5.0 or lower security status or is at war with you, or is agressed to you by any other means such as stealing loot from your can, he will appear red on your overview and you can shoot him without gateguns protecting him. If you have -5.0 or lower sec status, are at war with someone, or steal from their can then they can shoot you without gateguns hitting them.
Also if you fire on someone then they can fire back without gateguns hitting them as long as you shoot first. Since we kind of are pirates and everything I would expect you to know this already as it has to do with basic lowsec agression mechanics. This leads me to agree with tofu about the part where you are being dumb. Stop being dumb.
It also looked like tofu didnt see the first 2 lines of the chatlog, which would explain his response.
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Lalalaland34507 Posts
Apparently nou killed that raptor, yay for nou!
Edit : surely that cap booster isn't standard? I don't fly inties or use hybrids so I'm not sure.
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