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Body_Shield
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 10 2011 20:47 Body_Shield wrote: Or I could spam refresh contracts and hope people make massive mistakes. But that isn't the serious economic play that makes up the backbone of the economy. Tens of thousands of people online 24/7, buying and selling tons of stuff in dozens of locations. Your contract sniping is a drop in the bucket. That's why it's more stable. | ||
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Body_Shield
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
At least a portion of the skills are pretty much essential for the large scale trade, and since player-created supply has to meet player-created demand on a much larger scope than in WoW, individuals can't break the backbone of the trade. Basically, you sniping contracts without destabilizing things is the perfect proof of that. | ||
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Body_Shield
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pahndah
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On May 10 2011 20:45 JingleHell wrote: Eve, with the single server, and the entire economy requiring player interaction, is much more stable. A high sale or a low sale don't really affect the average sales, especially since to really play the economy succesfully, you need to invest a decent amount of time in skills, which most of the people not wanting to play it well won't do. It only takes ~30-35 days to get a trade alt with V in broker and accounting and the ability to field at least 50 trade orders. I can tell you right now that the contract system is full of retards and its relatively easy to make enough isk to plex an account spending 1-10 minutes a day max setting up a wtb/wts orders on the more popular faction items. | ||
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pahndah
1193 Posts
On May 10 2011 20:46 tofucake wrote: I'll finish up all the couriers today. Also I have no money. Get that courier thingy of mine down in Turba and I give you 10 mil k! | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 10 2011 21:25 pahndah wrote: It only takes ~30-35 days to get a trade alt with V in broker and accounting and the ability to field at least 50 trade orders. I can tell you right now that the contract system is full of retards and its relatively easy to make enough isk to plex an account spending 1-10 minutes a day max setting up a wtb/wts orders on the more popular faction items. But that still doesn't break overall market stability, if anything, it helps it, since you promptly turn around and re-list for the correct price, instead of telling everyone "oh this is only worth this now, because I got it for X isk." which is what we were talking about. Reprocessed ore value also creates a bottom value for nearly everything. Also very helpful. | ||
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Body_Shield
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 10 2011 21:36 Body_Shield wrote: How are Phantasms Well, I feel like I may be encroaching on KwarK's line here, but it isn't a Drake. | ||
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Zavior
Finland753 Posts
On May 10 2011 21:36 Body_Shield wrote: How are Phantasms out of cap if you do anything | ||
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pahndah
1193 Posts
On May 10 2011 21:30 JingleHell wrote: But that still doesn't break overall market stability, if anything, it helps it, since you promptly turn around and re-list for the correct price, instead of telling everyone "oh this is only worth this now, because I got it for X isk." which is what we were talking about. Reprocessed ore value also creates a bottom value for nearly everything. Also very helpful. I agree. The regular market it self is relatively stable and the mineral basket pretty much determines how much everything else is worth (most notably ship hulls). I think faction items do take up a small but sizable portion of the market (5-15%?). Its too bad only ccp will ever know just how much overall isk is being moved in the contract system compared to the market. I think its easier to get a 1-5% profit off of only 1 bil starting out doing buy low/sell high on the contract system though, as opposed to earning that same percentage profit on the regular market buying low/sell high. | ||
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bN`
Slovenia504 Posts
On May 10 2011 21:36 Body_Shield wrote: How are Phantasms pretty terrible | ||
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Verile
United States4 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 10 2011 22:21 Verile wrote: Do you still accept new members? Recruiting process is in the OP. | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
He means yes + Show Spoiler + http://kb.aquilaeve.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9441 Kinda weird. I guess the only reason I'm looking at them is because they are laser boats, with shields. And we like shields. But yeah cap boosters are a requirement I would say. I suppose the attraction for people is the extra highs for neuts/vamps? | ||
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ChinaRestaurant
Austria324 Posts
Edit: by showing off i mean spinning them at a station/POS obviously :/ | ||
KwarK
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On May 10 2011 22:39 ChinaRestaurant wrote: I really hope ccp revamps a few of those faction ships somewhat soonish. I'm dying to put my minmatar skills to some use (ashimmu sexiest ship in eve etc...trained minnie cruisers 5 for that). Phantasms and ashimmus are just for showing off atm, not like cynabals and maybe vigilants. Edit: by showing off i mean spinning them at a station/POS obviously :/ I wouldn't mind if the Gila's range bonus got changed to damage. I really want to train for Gila either way, but missile range, resists, and drone damage is just such a weird combination. | ||
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ChinaRestaurant
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