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TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
May 09 2011 20:24 GMT
#10801
Also, I really dont know what to say about the fact that karah has access to intel channel and went for those BS kills on twisted and gunpoint...

pretty much unnaceptable imo.
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DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 20:30:37
May 09 2011 20:25 GMT
#10802
On May 10 2011 05:12 Trust wrote:
so, actually my previous posts about yesterdays situation was a necessary lie. we tried to use hatchery as a bait for capital punishment/gunpoint which unfortunatly didnt work out (as you fucked up a littlebit). b2y was fleeted with is, after you brought your neutingbs we felt that we need to eleminate it to safe our archons cap and brought them in.
they pretended to shoot our archon afterwards with only 1 gun each and fleeted you, still hoping capital punishment/gunpoint would show up which didnt happen. after we had our archon for too long on the field we brought our own fleet to end the whole thing.

today it worked out better:
http://www.eve-piracy.de/killboard/?a=kill_related&kll_id=9795

our baitdomi pretended to shoot a pos, once it got tackelt we warped in our archon again. soon twisted and gunpoint switched for battleships and brought a bhaalgorn + archon, which we raped easily.

sorry for yesterdays lies, but i hope seeing a twisted archon dieing somehow compensate for that. if you feel u cant manage a fight or get caps tackeld somehow feel free to contact me or any other spam member. we are not good on your nano stuff, but we can fly large ships


Not sure what's wrong with your brain, exactly.

The Hatchery (and most other MH pirates) are looking for fights where there is a clear engagement. Fleeting with people that you 100% intend to kill is total bullshit, and I can see why most in MH despise you. Corps in MH shoot at and with each other on a regular basis, and all our combined fleets work entirely on mutual respect. Rest assured that I won't be fleeting with any of you or give any of you intel on anything.

Also, we don't give a flying fuck about some corp's capital ship dying unless we killed it.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19058 Posts
May 09 2011 20:25 GMT
#10803
I can say that SPAM is definitely not going to be liked by anyone around MH for admitting to using fleet to [try to] get kills.
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Trust
Profile Joined April 2007
Germany107 Posts
May 09 2011 20:27 GMT
#10804
they were not fleeted with you when they killed your phoon. and afterwards none of your ships fell to their guns. common sense on our TS was not to shoot hatchery members.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
May 09 2011 20:28 GMT
#10805
On May 10 2011 05:27 Trust wrote:
they were not fleeted with you when they killed your phoon. and afterwards none of your ships fell to their guns. common sense on our TS was not to shoot hatchery members.

The man speaks truth here, but so so dirty haha. Not sure what to say about it but it's all in the game! xD
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 20:43:03
May 09 2011 20:31 GMT
#10806
A few of us are pissed right now because although I'm tempted to believe you about not shooting us, we did have a harb and a cane fully neuted out/pointed for a while. Maybe you did it on purpose but boy you were cutting it close.

I personally think all this is a part of EvE and is bloody dirty but meh...I see what you did and I still love it.

edit - after clarifying with Karah etc, I feel I should try and calm jittery Hatchery members and say that essentially, YARR and SPAM used us to bait Gunpoint (without our knowledge) but did not 'betray honour' by shooting us while in fleet etc. Also, people jumping on Karah should realise that the situation would not have changed at all if Karah was/wasn't in our corp. Karah did not use his position in the Hatchery in ANY WAY to deliberately bait Gunpoint. In fact, more of us probably would have died if we didn't know Karah as SPAM were more or less given orders to not kill us.

If for some reason Gunpoint read this topic and are pissed at Hatchery for our involvement in this, please do realise that we had no idea what was going on, and none of us were deliberately against you.

Regarding the intel channel: yes, Karah had access to it, but he never used it or asked us to use it for this situation.


I hope this will quell a few trigger-happy emotions.
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Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
May 09 2011 20:31 GMT
#10807
I think it's more the fact that Yarr knew you were incoming to clean shit up, and yet didn't tell us to disengage. Atleast one of our members was pointed and got out, whether that was all 'for show' or not.. who knows.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
May 09 2011 20:33 GMT
#10808
On May 10 2011 05:25 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Not sure what's wrong with your brain, exactly.

The Hatchery (and most other MH pirates) are looking for fights where there is a clear engagement. Fleeting with people that you 100% intend to kill is total bullshit, and I can see why most in MH despise you. Corps in MH shoot at and with each other on a regular basis, and all our combined fleets work entirely on mutual respect. Rest assured that I won't be fleeting with any of you or give any of you intel on anything.

Also, we don't give a flying fuck about some corp's capital ship dying unless we killed it.

next time theyll think twice about blobbing my hookbill with 4 canes. I was looking for a clear engagement on a cane kill, yet 3 other canes from a different corp warped in and popped me for no reason, then let my victim escape.
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
May 09 2011 20:35 GMT
#10809
On May 10 2011 05:33 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 05:25 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Not sure what's wrong with your brain, exactly.

The Hatchery (and most other MH pirates) are looking for fights where there is a clear engagement. Fleeting with people that you 100% intend to kill is total bullshit, and I can see why most in MH despise you. Corps in MH shoot at and with each other on a regular basis, and all our combined fleets work entirely on mutual respect. Rest assured that I won't be fleeting with any of you or give any of you intel on anything.

Also, we don't give a flying fuck about some corp's capital ship dying unless we killed it.

next time theyll think twice about blobbing my hookbill with 4 canes. I was looking for a clear engagement on a cane kill, yet 3 other canes from a different corp warped in and popped me for no reason, then let my victim escape.


No clue, what you're trying to say.
Weken
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom580 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 20:38:40
May 09 2011 20:36 GMT
#10810
Hmm, so did they plan to neut out my harbinger and get it into armor then? Seriously im wondering because i dont see how you couldn't kill it after it got scramed by the bait domi then neuted out compleatly. I dont see how that was nessesary if they wern't shooting hatchery members.

Well i guess im not gunna be fleeting with yarr again, it seemed a stupid idea to begin with tbh.

Firebolt was right but i was being neuted by a pest i think (some mini BS with heavy neuts)
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 21:13:06
May 09 2011 20:41 GMT
#10811
On May 10 2011 05:35 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 05:33 Warri wrote:
On May 10 2011 05:25 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Not sure what's wrong with your brain, exactly.

The Hatchery (and most other MH pirates) are looking for fights where there is a clear engagement. Fleeting with people that you 100% intend to kill is total bullshit, and I can see why most in MH despise you. Corps in MH shoot at and with each other on a regular basis, and all our combined fleets work entirely on mutual respect. Rest assured that I won't be fleeting with any of you or give any of you intel on anything.

Also, we don't give a flying fuck about some corp's capital ship dying unless we killed it.

next time theyll think twice about blobbing my hookbill with 4 canes. I was looking for a clear engagement on a cane kill, yet 3 other canes from a different corp warped in and popped me for no reason, then let my victim escape.


No clue, what you're trying to say.

people(in every region) are looking to kill each other. just because you are in a semipublic intel channel doesnt mean shit.
I know you're feelings have been hurt, but I can only say, that i didnt abuse any internal info, nor my position in hatchery. Anyone who browses TL could have done this. In fact i/we came up with the idea after reading on that last archon kill.

I didn't want to inform anyone in the hatchery so i don't endanger any future cooperations with gunpoint/cappunishment. If hatchery knew and kept quiet, they could've been blamed for it.
Im sorry for your phoon loss, but it was necessary to prolong the fight and give more time for possible caps to join the battlefield.

On May 10 2011 05:24 TurpinOS wrote:
Also, I really dont know what to say about the fact that karah has access to intel channel and went for those BS kills on twisted and gunpoint...

pretty much unnaceptable imo.


cause hatchery never kills gunpoint, even though theyre at war? why did we go for a rapier kill when they were killing a neutral cane, despite us being in the intel channel?
Trust
Profile Joined April 2007
Germany107 Posts
May 09 2011 20:42 GMT
#10812
if we intended to kill you, b2y could have tackelt all of you. just think about it.

we respect blues, we respect fleets and we do respect our word. if we say we dont shoot you we will not shoot. if we fleet you we will not shoot you. if we blue you we will not shoot you.

about molden heath: we dont want and we dont need to be blue or have intel or whatever there. if you disrespect us for what we did its ok, though i think what we did was totally in the sense of eve.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
May 09 2011 20:45 GMT
#10813
You know in the end I think this will go down as one of the stories we tell people about when they ask 'what is eve like?'
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DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
May 09 2011 20:45 GMT
#10814
On May 10 2011 05:41 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 05:35 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
On May 10 2011 05:33 Warri wrote:
On May 10 2011 05:25 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Not sure what's wrong with your brain, exactly.

The Hatchery (and most other MH pirates) are looking for fights where there is a clear engagement. Fleeting with people that you 100% intend to kill is total bullshit, and I can see why most in MH despise you. Corps in MH shoot at and with each other on a regular basis, and all our combined fleets work entirely on mutual respect. Rest assured that I won't be fleeting with any of you or give any of you intel on anything.

Also, we don't give a flying fuck about some corp's capital ship dying unless we killed it.

next time theyll think twice about blobbing my hookbill with 4 canes. I was looking for a clear engagement on a cane kill, yet 3 other canes from a different corp warped in and popped me for no reason, then let my victim escape.


No clue, what you're trying to say.

people(in every region) are looking to kill each other. just because you are in a semipublic intel channel doesnt mean shit.
I know you're feelings have been hurt, but I can only say, that i didnt abuse any internal info, nor my position in hatchery. Anyone who browses TL could have done this. In fact i/we came up with the idea after reading on that last archon kill.

I didn't want to inform anyone in the hatchery so i don't endanger any future cooperations with gunpoint/cappunishment. If hatchery knew and kept quiet, they could've been blamed for it.
Im sorry for your phoon loss, but it was necessary to prolong the fight and give more time for possible caps to join the battlefield.


My feelings aren't hurt at all. I'm talking about exactly what Weken was saying. The idea of fleeting with yarr at all was dicey to us, but we did it because we fleet up with corps all the time in lowsec. We do this because cooperation gets us bigger wins in bigger fights.

If we fleeted up with Gunpoint a couple of times, and then betrayed them all and killed a bunch of expensive ships, you think they'd ever fleet with us again? People can play the game however they want, but setting up a big cooperative op and then betraying everyone is a way to make the game get boring for most of us really fast.
Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19135 Posts
May 09 2011 20:46 GMT
#10815
On May 10 2011 05:42 Trust wrote:
if we intended to kill you, b2y could have tackelt all of you. just think about it.

we respect blues, we respect fleets and we do respect our word. if we say we dont shoot you we will not shoot. if we fleet you we will not shoot you. if we blue you we will not shoot you.

about molden heath: we dont want and we dont need to be blue or have intel or whatever there. if you disrespect us for what we did its ok, though i think what we did was totally in the sense of eve.

Totally agree, it's dirty as fuck but I love it lol. Some day you swing the stick, some day you are at the end of it, welcome to EVE.
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 09 2011 20:50 GMT
#10816
On May 10 2011 05:45 Firebolt145 wrote:
You know in the end I think this will go down as one of the stories we tell people about when they ask 'what is eve like?'


It honestly kinda reminds me of the plot of the third Pirates of the Caribbean, where everyone has 3 separate private agendas that mostly actually line up, but they spend 70% of the movie at cross paths that didn't need to exist to begin with, just trying to further their own plans.
Weken
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom580 Posts
May 09 2011 20:58 GMT
#10817
I dont care how you try to justify your actions, i see why you did them and if i was in your possition i would do it to. But from my point of view now there is just no need to work with you again. See you in space o/.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 21:28:09
May 09 2011 21:27 GMT
#10818
Sooo the pilot of the mining rokh we killed a while ago docked up in suicide station in another rokh so we got into pest + armor canes and other station fun stuff and sat outside. While waiting we dscan a hurricane at a belt and decide to bite the bait.

I tell most of the fleet to stay for the rokh and just me + a cane (I forget who) + a rifter to warp to the belt. We get him to armor but local has +8'd with 3 scimis on dscan so we burn off. The first cane burns out but another cane arrives within close range. Here I make my big mistake and order the fleet to warp to me at range to engage, completely forgetting that a good deal of us weren't fitted for nano.

Fortunately we kill the cane and I order the disengage and everyone escapes fine. Unfortunately, half the fleet has warped to the sun at 0 (second big mistake - NEVER warp to sun at 0) to find another scram cane waiting, who points michael. We are unable to get him out as the rest of the fleet is warping in, so we lose Michael as the rest of us disengage once again.

1-1, oh well. Could've been better.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34491 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-09 21:50:40
May 09 2011 21:46 GMT
#10819
We just scouted a missioning drake in gonheim. Michael goes with his prober to find him when he suddenly says 'hi' in local. We joke around on TS and tell him to try invite the drake to fleet.

Unbelievably, the drake accepts

We all warp to him and kill him

LOL

edit: after all this drama about shooting fleet members hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Trust
Profile Joined April 2007
Germany107 Posts
May 09 2011 21:59 GMT
#10820
HATCHERY DISHONOR!!!
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