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United States43803 Posts
On February 18 2011 08:14 Zer0 Kool wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 08:05 KwarK wrote:On February 18 2011 08:02 Zer0 Kool wrote:On February 18 2011 07:53 Warri wrote:On February 18 2011 07:45 Widdershins wrote:On February 18 2011 07:38 TurpinOS wrote:
overly buffer tanked command ship. Not buffer tanked at all. On February 18 2011 07:27 Warri wrote:
What you do is basically zero risk pvp. We will not grow by 20 people magically during a fight to gank your ship/rr and you know which ships we fly. You can keep track of us and just dock up when you feel unsafe (which is never with 3 neut reps). We had the element of surprise once with the scorpion and barely failed to kill you. Then they fitted eccm and were back at you knowing your odds 100%.
Im not complaining, but please, stop bragging, its nothing special really. What you mean is, it doesn't seem that way to you now that you've seen it. If you were thinking this at the time, why did you do things the way you did? And please stop accusing me of bragging. If you thought it was impressive, you can say so, but I should be allowed to talk about what I do without being called a braggart. We were trying to get lucky with the jam cycles, knowing it wont work out any other way. Thats just the thing warri, there are other way more effective methods other then jamming... think about that. (widders is gonna hate me here in a minute if you all figure out what im talking about and explore other methods) If you're talking about damps then we love them in open fleet battles when you can nano around and pull the bolder ships away from the logis and then a 5 day old guy in a vigil with 2 damps can just turn their logis off. That's fucking beautiful. But it doesn't work at 0 on a station. Well thats one way to go about it but i've heard stories of widders floating off the station more then 50km in a bhaalgorn, i don't know how many times he pulled the sleipnir at 0km on station on you guys but im going to assume it was only once or twice. If you want me to be completely honest. Neuts is what i was thinking about and not the small or medium(unless curse) ones either. There is one more tactic as well which anyone with a alt that flys a cruiser and has Engineering V and ok Navigation skills can accomplish.
We have a total of 0 active pilots with decent PvP battleship skills. If I had a half dozen megathrons to pull out of my pocket every time he undocked then I'd do that with a couple of typhoons for good measure. I'm afraid you haven't come up with anything amazingly original, you simply know less about what the hatchery can fly than the members of the hatchery (amazingly enough!).
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On February 18 2011 08:15 Firebolt145 wrote:
we've considered that. neuts don't work on a station at 0 (nrr docks and undocks back at 100% cap)
edit: we've only ever engaged widders in his bhaalgorn 50km off station once, and that was the very first time when we discovered he was in league with you guys. that was also very much a skeleton crew
if you remember correctly i was (painfully obviously lol) repeatedly dropping cans while we were shouting out in corp for non-afk members
and when he undocked 2 basis and a n oneiros against our drake+raven dps 
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On February 18 2011 08:13 Firebolt145 wrote:Show nested quote +Ok, I have seen plenty of you guys in BC's and BS's even... Honestly a small group of BS's would do the job fine, i could take my 6m sp alt in the sort of configuration i'm describing back when he was at 3m sp even. Number of guys in corp with proper pvp bc's = 2 hands. Number of guys in corp with proper pvp bs's = hmm...probably 1 hand with 2 fingers missing :/ bN isn't actually in the hatchery, he's just joining the fun  tbh, highsec war is usually fine. It's just when super-gay-tactics are used (more referring to the way you sniped our 2.5b golem) that it becomes dirty and annoying. afaik, there is no easy way to counter multiple neutral reps on a station at 0, so forgive me while i find that to be incredibly gay until i somehow figure a way to counter it googling... edit: and yeah we're not serious about how you purposefully gcc'd yourself, we all find that really funny (and...why?!)
Lol i got no comment to that... but also had no hand in that and would agree that its hard to counter that "Working as intended" method
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On February 18 2011 07:45 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 07:38 Widdershins wrote:On February 18 2011 07:30 TurpinOS wrote:
The fact at hand (which you seem to not understand) is that youre the type of person that calls something ''a fight'', a situation where he dictates the rules and can escape safely if shit goes bad.
This is not about saying that ''alldaproz are in nullsec and lowsec'', its mostly about saying that you are obviously choosing the safest (and by safest I mean very very safe) way to ''pvp''. Im not saying this choice is wrong by itself, its obviously a different mentality, but trying to look superior to others when you chose the safe alternative just seems kinda odd to me.
Also I had a chuckle at the ''bro you brought your best pvpers to fight me'', youre definately a cutie (but you are not my bro, seriously, what kind of expression is that, are we all 16 and going to college ?) I'm just doing what I do. I'm not "trying to look superior." If that's the way it appears to you, then maybe that's something to dwell on. All I can tell from all this is that you are disgruntled that I don't warp around and take bait in asteroid belts in lowsec where I'm going to die horribly to 12 of you like a f***ing idiot. Just to clear something up, we're incredibly not blobby. It is incredibly rare we go into a fight with anything like the numbers we attack and pretty much unheard of that our fleet is worth more. We recently had a long war with the necro alliance in emol (I believe you know them) who outnumbered us 4 to 1, a war which we started because they looked like fun. You're in a 1 man corp so to you obviously we'll appear blobby, especially because very few of us in the corp can fly anything that can rival a sleipnir for killing power. But if you saw us in low/null (or just read some of the BRs here) you'd see that we're the opposite.
I know you were talking to widders but honestly the first time uberdefdef and i + others got into a fight with you guys.... lets just say i couldn't attempt to count all the ships you had there at the sun. After that i would assume the blob would come from somewhere when we fought afterwards. you guys should dec necro again in the future and maybe fight them with us.
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Lalalaland34502 Posts
you caught us in the middle of a lowsec roam with most of the members. if you look closely, a good 75% of the fleet was a mixture of frigates and blackbirds (lol), 1 scimi, and only 3-4 bc's. lemme try and find a screenshot
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On February 18 2011 08:18 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 08:14 Zer0 Kool wrote:On February 18 2011 08:05 KwarK wrote:On February 18 2011 08:02 Zer0 Kool wrote:On February 18 2011 07:53 Warri wrote:On February 18 2011 07:45 Widdershins wrote:On February 18 2011 07:38 TurpinOS wrote:
overly buffer tanked command ship. Not buffer tanked at all. On February 18 2011 07:27 Warri wrote:
What you do is basically zero risk pvp. We will not grow by 20 people magically during a fight to gank your ship/rr and you know which ships we fly. You can keep track of us and just dock up when you feel unsafe (which is never with 3 neut reps). We had the element of surprise once with the scorpion and barely failed to kill you. Then they fitted eccm and were back at you knowing your odds 100%.
Im not complaining, but please, stop bragging, its nothing special really. What you mean is, it doesn't seem that way to you now that you've seen it. If you were thinking this at the time, why did you do things the way you did? And please stop accusing me of bragging. If you thought it was impressive, you can say so, but I should be allowed to talk about what I do without being called a braggart. We were trying to get lucky with the jam cycles, knowing it wont work out any other way. Thats just the thing warri, there are other way more effective methods other then jamming... think about that. (widders is gonna hate me here in a minute if you all figure out what im talking about and explore other methods) If you're talking about damps then we love them in open fleet battles when you can nano around and pull the bolder ships away from the logis and then a 5 day old guy in a vigil with 2 damps can just turn their logis off. That's fucking beautiful. But it doesn't work at 0 on a station. Well thats one way to go about it but i've heard stories of widders floating off the station more then 50km in a bhaalgorn, i don't know how many times he pulled the sleipnir at 0km on station on you guys but im going to assume it was only once or twice. If you want me to be completely honest. Neuts is what i was thinking about and not the small or medium(unless curse) ones either. There is one more tactic as well which anyone with a alt that flys a cruiser and has Engineering V and ok Navigation skills can accomplish. We have a total of 0 active pilots with decent PvP battleship skills. If I had a half dozen megathrons to pull out of my pocket every time he undocked then I'd do that with a couple of typhoons for good measure. I'm afraid you haven't come up with anything amazingly original, you simply know less about what the hatchery can fly than the members of the hatchery (amazingly enough!).
How old is this corp "the hatchery" again? and you only have how many active players? and how many in corp? let me browse your kill board and ill be right back.
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On February 18 2011 08:08 Zer0 Kool wrote:
I havent bashed anyone at all and all im doing is trying to open your minds a bit and help some of you who have proven yourselves to be good at SC try to take some of the effort you put into strategy and apply it to EVE. If you want to go down the road of "LOL YOU CANT FIGHT SEVERELY OUTNUMBERED WITH REPS YOU SO FAIL" then we can go down them and honestly ill probably be banned in 12 seconds.
Until then im trying to be nice.
It's not that you can't fight severely outnumbered with reps. I mean you could probably win the fight if your opponent was say a glass of water or a rock. However once the opponent shows any signs of life the fight is not winnable. I don't know if you've noticed but remote repair scales really really really well in this game.
On the other hand the person in question flies an active tanked sleip with scimmies so who knows :>
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Lalalaland34502 Posts
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On February 18 2011 08:27 Firebolt145 wrote:
you caught us in the middle of a lowsec roam with most of the members. if you look closely, a good 75% of the fleet was a mixture of frigates and blackbirds (lol), 1 scimi, and only 3-4 bc's. lemme try and find a screenshot
That claymore = one lucky person
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Lalalaland34502 Posts
maybe, but now do you get an idea of what kind of ships we have at our disposal?
edit: you don't even have to compare it to your raven typhoon guardian oneiros bhaalgorn guardian domi guardian mega guardian typhoon fleet issue
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Hatchery strength is actually twice that amount because every dps drone in those BCs does damage equal to those rifters!
Edit: Three tabs on overview setting *cries*
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put the picture away, you're scaring me.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
TEST blues PL XD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh god wtf is going to happen?
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On February 18 2011 08:13 Firebolt145 wrote:
afaik, there is no easy way to counter multiple neutral reps on a station at 0, so forgive me while i find that to be incredibly gay until i somehow figure a way to counter it
Lol, it's not easy
Try fighting 12 guys in cruisers and BCs with jams and logi by yourself, with only 3 logistics to save you. Then you can come back and we will sit down and have a drink and talk about things that are not easy.
And yeah, I'm kind of laughing over the absolution loss myself. That's not easy either.
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On February 18 2011 08:33 pahndah wrote:Hatchery strength is actually twice that amount because every dps drone in those BCs does damage equal to those rifters!
I know some or a lot of those drones were ecm drones bro
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On February 18 2011 08:34 Arhkangel wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
TEST blues PL XD HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh god wtf is going to happen?
inb4 sky is falling
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On February 18 2011 08:34 Zer0 Kool wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 08:33 pahndah wrote:Hatchery strength is actually twice that amount because every dps drone in those BCs does damage equal to those rifters! I know some or a lot of those drones were ecm drones bro
How am I supposed to know, I wasn't there T_T
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Lalalaland34502 Posts
we're not saying it's easy to fight us when we're 'blobbing', we're just saying it's easy for you to not die and pick off stray members doing silly things.
what actually happened for that absolution loss? clicked the 'yes attack don't care about concord' button out of habit?
edit: i don't think we ever use ecm drones in fleet ops btw
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United States43803 Posts
On February 18 2011 08:25 Zer0 Kool wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2011 07:45 KwarK wrote:On February 18 2011 07:38 Widdershins wrote:On February 18 2011 07:30 TurpinOS wrote:
The fact at hand (which you seem to not understand) is that youre the type of person that calls something ''a fight'', a situation where he dictates the rules and can escape safely if shit goes bad.
This is not about saying that ''alldaproz are in nullsec and lowsec'', its mostly about saying that you are obviously choosing the safest (and by safest I mean very very safe) way to ''pvp''. Im not saying this choice is wrong by itself, its obviously a different mentality, but trying to look superior to others when you chose the safe alternative just seems kinda odd to me.
Also I had a chuckle at the ''bro you brought your best pvpers to fight me'', youre definately a cutie (but you are not my bro, seriously, what kind of expression is that, are we all 16 and going to college ?) I'm just doing what I do. I'm not "trying to look superior." If that's the way it appears to you, then maybe that's something to dwell on. All I can tell from all this is that you are disgruntled that I don't warp around and take bait in asteroid belts in lowsec where I'm going to die horribly to 12 of you like a f***ing idiot. Just to clear something up, we're incredibly not blobby. It is incredibly rare we go into a fight with anything like the numbers we attack and pretty much unheard of that our fleet is worth more. We recently had a long war with the necro alliance in emol (I believe you know them) who outnumbered us 4 to 1, a war which we started because they looked like fun. You're in a 1 man corp so to you obviously we'll appear blobby, especially because very few of us in the corp can fly anything that can rival a sleipnir for killing power. But if you saw us in low/null (or just read some of the BRs here) you'd see that we're the opposite. I know you were talking to widders but honestly the first time uberdefdef and i + others got into a fight with you guys.... lets just say i couldn't attempt to count all the ships you had there at the sun. After that i would assume the blob would come from somewhere when we fought afterwards. you guys should dec necro again in the future and maybe fight them with us.
Drop the dec on us and I'll make it happen within the week. Redeccing necros was on my list of things to do when we had our shit in order. You're making shit somewhat less orderly for some corp members (not me, I live in lowsec getting massively wealthy off trading alts) and that'll slow down our redeccing of necros. But if you're not finding this current war especially fun (I think you've probably killed the stupider carebears, the rest have finally learned how a watchlist works) then we can make a necro war happen.
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On February 18 2011 08:36 Firebolt145 wrote:
we're not saying it's easy to fight us when we're 'blobbing', we're just saying it's easy for you to not die and pick off stray members doing silly things.
what actually happened for that absolution loss? clicked the 'yes attack don't care about concord' button out of habit?
edit: i don't think we ever use ecm drones in fleet ops btw
You should! Everyone else in null sec does it.
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