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Kwark, the master Minmatar pilot, on Vagas vs Canes
[23:30:48] KwarK uK > he was terribad
[23:30:57] KwarK uK > vaga has bonus to falloff and faction point
[23:31:00] KwarK uK > and 2x your speed
[23:31:14] Wrathful Penguins > it's liek the easiest kill every on a cane
[23:31:16] Wrathful Penguins > in that vaga
[23:31:29] Ilovemanagingorders > vaga cant fight a cane at point range
[23:31:36] Wrathful Penguins > cael
[23:31:38] Wrathful Penguins > faction point
[23:31:43] Ilovemanagingorders > kwark
[23:31:45] Ilovemanagingorders > no
[23:31:54] Ilovemanagingorders > you shouldnt point a vaga
[23:31:57] Ilovemanagingorders > but hell never kill a cane
[23:32:02] Wrathful Penguins > cane does fuck all damage at 30k
[23:32:05] Wrathful Penguins > vaga has falloff bonuses
[23:32:08] Ilovemanagingorders > ...
[23:32:12] Ilovemanagingorders > kwark minnie expert now
[23:32:22] Wrathful Penguins > it's true
[23:33:02] Wrathful Penguins > with skills he's getting 45k range on that
(sorry kwark, had to do it  )
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United States43254 Posts
Vaga does do decent damage out to 45k with V. Vaga has total control over the range (unless he gets himself neuted like this one did) and can kite.
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u forget that i have better cap than he does
and double ehp
and still comparable dps up to any point worth mentioning (dont even talk to me about barrage >35~km even in a vaga)
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I got banned from SCBW 
Yay, I'm allowed back
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Hyrule19155 Posts
So I get home from work, and decide to do a few missions with my new t2 hards. I get done almost the first wave of my mission when a Probe warps in and flips my can. Naturally, I burn at him screaming "gtfo or die" and then immediately aggress him. Why you ask? Because a fleet was already up because Karah was trying to get people to flip his cans.
So naturally he warps out, and Kwark brings in his Rapier. I go back to pew pewing, waiting for his return.
He shows up in a Typhoon Fleet Issue. Not good. Kwark immediately gets point and web on him. 3 more Drakes and 2 Scimitars undock and warp to my mission. He is pointed again, webbed again, and taken down. We suffered no loss (nobody even went under 90% shields).
He promptly dies in a glorious ball of fire and doom.
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8739492
Triple Trimarked, triple 1600 plated station brawling ship brought in to kill a PvE Drake with 15 corp members in local.
[EDIT]
On an unrelated note
[01:22:16] KwarK uK > i'm retarded
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Those last 2 posts are awesome kills. Good job to hatch and aquila. Loving the dude flying a Rattlesnake. Such an awesome ship.
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On the phoon fleet issue fight i was fitted as a lol drake with 8 med transporters. \o/
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United States43254 Posts
We're reaching the point that whenever we see anyone doing anything stupid we have the assets right there to immediately exploit it. 30 seconds after tofu baited the bait and switching phoon pilot there was a rapier cloaked up in his mission.
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On February 01 2011 11:26 Arhkangel wrote:
Those last 2 posts are awesome kills. Good job to hatch and aquila. Loving the dude flying a Rattlesnake. Such an awesome ship.
If your goal in eve is to AFK PvE, it sure is.
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Lalalaland34495 Posts
On February 01 2011 10:15 tofucake wrote:So I get home from work, and decide to do a few missions with my new t2 hards. I get done almost the first wave of my mission when a Probe warps in and flips my can. Naturally, I burn at him screaming "gtfo or die" and then immediately aggress him. Why you ask? Because a fleet was already up because Karah was trying to get people to flip his cans. So naturally he warps out, and Kwark brings in his Rapier. I go back to pew pewing, waiting for his return. He shows up in a Typhoon Fleet Issue. Not good. Kwark immediately gets point and web on him. 3 more Drakes and 2 Scimitars undock and warp to my mission. He is pointed again, webbed again, and taken down. We suffered no loss (nobody even went under 90% shields). He promptly dies in a glorious ball of fire and doom. http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8739492Triple Trimarked, triple 1600 plated station brawling ship brought in to kill a PvE Drake with 15 corp members in local. [EDIT] On an unrelated note [01:22:16] KwarK uK > i'm retarded
HAHA oh glorious
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On February 01 2011 08:47 KwarK wrote:
Vaga does do decent damage out to 45k with V. Vaga has total control over the range (unless he gets himself neuted like this one did) and can kite.
No vaga fights at 45k and no vaga really goes after a hurricane with the intention of winning.
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United States43254 Posts
I had a few hours free between lectures so I thought I'd take a look at how we were doing so far in real terms rather than judging the killboard stats. They include kills where we didn't get killing blow which can lead to gross exaggeration. In corps where they often do joint ops with multiple other corps this can have a ridiculously massive impact because they'll get points for a kill where only one of the twenty guys was in their corp but if the entire fleet gets wiped out only their man counts as a loss. It's absurd that if two 20 man fleets fight, one composed of a single corp and the other of 20 different guys then the corp will be at 50% with 20 kills, 20 losses, whereas each of the individual corps in the other fleet will be at 20 kills, 1 loss. Anyway, given how little we co-operate with anyone else it was easy to deduct kills that weren't really ours from the total (along with PvE carrier kills which for some reason seem to count) and come up with a total.
Unfortunately it was fairly disappointing (at least compared to the 40b kill 23b loss that our kb would have us believe). Anyway, here is my estimate of where we really stand.
k/l in each month
running total
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United States43254 Posts
From this I can deduce that our operations have grown in each and every month, that we've gotten much more competent and that in January we raped.
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Lalalaland34495 Posts
I joined in december
case solved
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United States43254 Posts
Also the only reason our losses haven't been going down every month since November is a certain 1b mael loss.
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It's quite nice to have the ability to scramble a fleet like that at any time if someone decides to can flip, or camp the eifer gate, etc. So many kills we couldn't have expected to have gotten before.
Things are definitely getting better. Cool to see.
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Are you counting number of kills here? Or looking at the value of the kills in ISK?
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Lalalaland34495 Posts
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Lalalaland34495 Posts
Else we would losing like crazy because of the number of rifters we use.
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