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Nyovne
Profile Joined March 2006
Netherlands19141 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 20:24:25
January 05 2011 20:23 GMT
#5201
Sigh, on a weekly basis I wish I had time to play this game . So challenging!

Luckily I can enjoy this thread and the reports and posts in it!
ModeratorFor remember, that in the end, some are born to live, others born to die. I belong to those last, born to burn, born to cry. For I shall remain alone... forsaken.
Scrangos
Profile Joined April 2009
United States21 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 20:40:56
January 05 2011 20:36 GMT
#5202
So, I had been seeing this thread for months now and never really dared to thread in the famous deep waters of eve till about 6 days ago motivated by the badassness of team liquid folk in a game like this.

And it didn't disappoint! I made a dummy account to ask a 21 day trial mentorship thing. Took about 2 days to do the tutorials the game had available so I didn't look like a dumbass and by the third day I was already going out on PvP roams and salvages (I could've started earlier though).

I followed the outlines in this post and the bulletin and by the 5th day I was able to get a pilots license extention along with my mentors money. All in-game money (ISK) so I didn't have to spend a single penny on the game. So now my 7th-ish day of eve I have a fully registered account with about 45 days paid and am about to jump into a battlecruiser.~ In EVE skill = free to play.

The Hatchery is pretty damn awesome, and a lot of people besides my mentor helped out too. These guys in pvp are the equivalent of a marine soloin a lurker.

I should've started sooner

Azerbaijan
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States660 Posts
January 05 2011 20:50 GMT
#5203
On January 06 2011 05:36 Scrangos wrote:
So, I had been seeing this thread for months now and never really dared to thread in the famous deep waters of eve till about 6 days ago motivated by the badassness of team liquid folk in a game like this.

And it didn't disappoint! I made a dummy account to ask a 21 day trial mentorship thing. Took about 2 days to do the tutorials the game had available so I didn't look like a dumbass and by the third day I was already going out on PvP roams and salvages (I could've started earlier though).

I followed the outlines in this post and the bulletin and by the 5th day I was able to get a pilots license extention along with my mentors money. All in-game money (ISK) so I didn't have to spend a single penny on the game. So now my 7th-ish day of eve I have a fully registered account with about 45 days paid and am about to jump into a battlecruiser.~ In EVE skill = free to play.

The Hatchery is pretty damn awesome, and a lot of people besides my mentor helped out too. These guys in pvp are the equivalent of a marine soloin a lurker.

I should've started sooner



This post put me to shame lol; been playing for almost 2 months and I have yet to break 60 mil ISK. Although I did get 2 friends to sub off of trials I sent them so I have only paid for one month so far.
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
January 05 2011 21:18 GMT
#5204
On January 06 2011 05:16 Invol2ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2011 05:07 TurpinOS wrote:
On January 06 2011 04:23 Invol2ver wrote:
On January 04 2011 17:07 KwarK wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Went on a nullsec roam with 2 canes, a drake, a rapier and a rifter. We found a gatecamp with a cheetah, drake and two canes. We jumped on in and immediately gunned down a cane. They were all over the place, one of their canes was trying to kill me in the rapier and I was just holding him at 22k while the other guys were on Caelum. However our focussed fire and lack of purger rigs left them a cane down while Caelum was still on half shield. We'd spread our points and with a nanocane and stasis on their second cane Caelum was able to get out as his shield broke, just before their second cane went down. There was nothing the drake could do, he tried to kill me because the rapier was the most expensive and fragile thing we had but I could just align out, stasis him and disengage myself while Orandos cleaned it up. Very easy victory over a pretty comparable fleet. We just flew better, abused range and stasis and had decent fits. Wasn't much they could do.

We continued to roam and I scanned down a harb beltratting and held it for the fleet. Another easy kill, 4 bcs for 0 losses. We continued towards out exit and found a gatecamp with a hictor in the last system. A muninn, a falcon (cloaked, we didn't know about this yet), a rff, dramiel, devoter, deimos and a drake were there I think. We could just go through it and rapier disengage but after weighing it up we decided it was time to put our nano to the test. We triggered the trap, burned off and disengaged the tackle with the rapier. They launched a billion ecm drones and the falcon got in. With the rapier jammed we couldn't really isolate ships to gun them down and it was pretty much a standoff with VoV killing ecm drones for kicks while both sides did no real damage. I decided to call a disengage, set our align point to our outgate to lowsec and told people to pull drones and deaggress. Everyone was aligned and I said warp at the precise moment an overheated 30k point hit orandos' drake.

This was awful timing. If I'd said it a second earlier we'd all be out, a second later and we'd have seen and I could have stasised the devoter and allowed orandos to burn out. Instead we were trapped in a 30 AU warp while the rest of them seized the chance and ran him down. I took the rapier back to see what I could do but he was scrammed by then. Not really much blame to be had for it. The rapier should be the last man on the field but I had called an align, everyone was aligned and nobody was pointed so when I say warp it wasn't unreasonable to immediately warp myself. Equally orandos was on his first nano roam and you can easily be taken by surprise by how quickly an overheated mwd and overheated point can come out of nowhere. Obviously it's on him to notice it earlier and either overheat himself or tell me but it was incredibly unlucky that the point hit the second I said warp (for those who don't know an aligned ship warps instantly, the only delay was the reaction time between me saying warp and him hitting the button). I was more than happy to reimburse the loss and call it a win at 4 kills to 1 loss.


Going to start small with some frig roams I think, try to see if I can at least not get everyone killed



that goes against the tradition of Hatchery FCs


Okay then. I expect everyone in corp to have at least 1 racial battleship skill trained to 4 by this time next week. We're going for more treasure.

Reimbursement will be covered by Caelum


How nice of you.
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
Inzek
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Chile802 Posts
January 05 2011 22:18 GMT
#5205
also... not getting all killed was what goes against hatchery tradition
Stork FAN!!!
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-05 22:26:07
January 05 2011 22:22 GMT
#5206
On January 06 2011 07:18 Inzek wrote:
also... not getting all killed was what goes against hatchery tradition


yeah, I just figured he got it wrong, Hatchery FCs tradition is to suicide all fleet members on their first couple of times FCing.



try to see if I can at least not get everyone killed



that goes against the tradition of Hatchery FCs

http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44289 Posts
January 05 2011 23:03 GMT
#5207
Took me 5 or 6 ops before they started having survivors. But I had no-one to teach me. You guys don't know how lucky you are. Especially the new members.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Erucious
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway393 Posts
January 05 2011 23:56 GMT
#5208
holy crap, just saw the KB of my old alliance (i was in TGRADS in MM), and last week they had this huge fight http://kb.morsus-mihi.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=8416008

500b isk killed :<.... sick

Does that mean that the lag is fixed now? O.O
Either that, or PL was stupid enough to drop in titans in a system with a gadrillion caps :S
I'm Norwegian/Dutch. Just the awesome parts of them though :D
Zootre
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark180 Posts
January 06 2011 00:00 GMT
#5209
http://eve.battleclinic.com/news/133183-Heavy-Titan-Losses-in-Venal-Battle.html

+ Show Spoiler +
Y-W1Q3, Venal - A large battle between Pandemic Legion and the Northern Coalition on 30.12.112 resulted in the destruction of an estimated 9 super-capital vessels.

Sources attributed the recent increase in tension between Pandemic Legion and their former allies in the Northern Coalition to the expansion of Pandemic Legion's moon-mining operations in Venal, where they hold a number of highly valuable Technetium moons.

At least 126 super-capitals (titans and super-carriers) are recorded as having been fielded (57 from Pandemic Legion and 69 belonging to Northern Coalition alliances and allies) with estimates putting roughly a thousand pilots on the field of battle during the four-hour engagement.

The Northern Coalition fleet was over twice the size of that fielded by Pandemic Legion and received reinforcements as the fight went on, enabling them to inflict rapid and heavy damage on the Pandemic Legion super-capital forces, downing six titans and one super-carrier while losing only two of their own titans.

Northern Coalition forces held the field following the clash with Pandemic Legion, which saw over 100 super-capital vessels fielded and 8 titan deaths in Venal.

Read more: http://eve.battleclinic.com/news/133183-Heavy-Titan-Losses-in-Venal-Battle.html#ixzz1ACzmcUMk
Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 00:49:37
January 06 2011 00:33 GMT
#5210
Epic fight sounds epic. I think I've never seen a battlereport were PL outright loses a fight :s If this escalates further this could turn into the best war ever.

Gordon any inside info on this? I mean 9 supercaps don't go poof and you just shrug-it off.

P.S. Also EVE Metrics closed their doors Sad day for me. I used that site a lot.
Part Time Ninja
kef
Profile Joined September 2010
283 Posts
January 06 2011 04:50 GMT
#5211
On January 06 2011 04:23 Invol2ver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2011 17:07 KwarK wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

Went on a nullsec roam with 2 canes, a drake, a rapier and a rifter. We found a gatecamp with a cheetah, drake and two canes. We jumped on in and immediately gunned down a cane. They were all over the place, one of their canes was trying to kill me in the rapier and I was just holding him at 22k while the other guys were on Caelum. However our focussed fire and lack of purger rigs left them a cane down while Caelum was still on half shield. We'd spread our points and with a nanocane and stasis on their second cane Caelum was able to get out as his shield broke, just before their second cane went down. There was nothing the drake could do, he tried to kill me because the rapier was the most expensive and fragile thing we had but I could just align out, stasis him and disengage myself while Orandos cleaned it up. Very easy victory over a pretty comparable fleet. We just flew better, abused range and stasis and had decent fits. Wasn't much they could do.

We continued to roam and I scanned down a harb beltratting and held it for the fleet. Another easy kill, 4 bcs for 0 losses. We continued towards out exit and found a gatecamp with a hictor in the last system. A muninn, a falcon (cloaked, we didn't know about this yet), a rff, dramiel, devoter, deimos and a drake were there I think. We could just go through it and rapier disengage but after weighing it up we decided it was time to put our nano to the test. We triggered the trap, burned off and disengaged the tackle with the rapier. They launched a billion ecm drones and the falcon got in. With the rapier jammed we couldn't really isolate ships to gun them down and it was pretty much a standoff with VoV killing ecm drones for kicks while both sides did no real damage. I decided to call a disengage, set our align point to our outgate to lowsec and told people to pull drones and deaggress. Everyone was aligned and I said warp at the precise moment an overheated 30k point hit orandos' drake.

This was awful timing. If I'd said it a second earlier we'd all be out, a second later and we'd have seen and I could have stasised the devoter and allowed orandos to burn out. Instead we were trapped in a 30 AU warp while the rest of them seized the chance and ran him down. I took the rapier back to see what I could do but he was scrammed by then. Not really much blame to be had for it. The rapier should be the last man on the field but I had called an align, everyone was aligned and nobody was pointed so when I say warp it wasn't unreasonable to immediately warp myself. Equally orandos was on his first nano roam and you can easily be taken by surprise by how quickly an overheated mwd and overheated point can come out of nowhere. Obviously it's on him to notice it earlier and either overheat himself or tell me but it was incredibly unlucky that the point hit the second I said warp (for those who don't know an aligned ship warps instantly, the only delay was the reaction time between me saying warp and him hitting the button). I was more than happy to reimburse the loss and call it a win at 4 kills to 1 loss.


+ Show Spoiler +
On another note this was a superbly run op. Comms were tight as hell and we got shit done incredibly effectively and with as little panic as possible. Even when we were baiting that trap everything seemed completely under control, and it was.

I'm learning a lot on these ops and am finally going to give in to Kwark's pressure and start FCing some stuff soon. Going to start small with some frig roams I think, try to see if I can at least not get everyone killed, and get some corp members trained on how scouting works (scouting on ops the past few weeks has been a complete disaster unless handled by a select few people).

I've been tagging along on every op I can trying to learn how this shit works, and thanks to kwark and caelum for showing me how it all works, I'm finally starting to feel a little more comfortable instead of the normal "OMFG THERES A RED ON GRID OMGOMGOMG".

Pretty cool.



Would love to do this, soon as I get back into town. Problem is I still don't have a working mic, and probably won't till I get moved into my new apartment on the 14th. But if I get one it's going down.
There are two kinds of people in this world: people who say there are two kinds of people in the world and people who know the first group of people are full of shit.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 05:41:18
January 06 2011 05:40 GMT
#5212
I just leroyed a rapier. Was in such a rush to tackle the target before it warped off that I didn't bother getting my bearings. I got the point and stasis and etc and then aligned towards sun which happened to be directly at him. That didn't end so well. Need to take a second and work out what's what before doing this shit.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
NoSlack
Profile Joined November 2010
United States112 Posts
January 06 2011 06:18 GMT
#5213
http://www.xfire.com/profile/kdye101/videos/

Here is a link for people that want to watch some videos of PvP and some goofy stuff. They are pretty old I played like 2006-2008. I don't have time for a second life right now but if I do in the future The Hatchery will get a message from me.

Thanks for the thread brings back some old memories.
TurpinOS
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada1223 Posts
January 06 2011 06:57 GMT
#5214
On January 06 2011 14:40 KwarK wrote:
I just leroyed a rapier. Was in such a rush to tackle the target before it warped off that I didn't bother getting my bearings. I got the point and stasis and etc and then aligned towards sun which happened to be directly at him. That didn't end so well. Need to take a second and work out what's what before doing this shit.


He forgot to say he lost his rapier to a HAM drake

np kwark always there to help
http://eve.znaor.hr/pimpmydomi/
pahndah
Profile Joined August 2009
1193 Posts
January 06 2011 07:45 GMT
#5215
HAM drakes are MEAN fast, I mean vagabond fast. No way Kwark could have out run it even with dual webs on it. Kwark did nothing wrong.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 08:48:40
January 06 2011 08:47 GMT
#5216
On January 06 2011 09:33 Arhkangel wrote:
Epic fight sounds epic. I think I've never seen a battlereport were PL outright loses a fight :s If this escalates further this could turn into the best war ever.

Gordon any inside info on this? I mean 9 supercaps don't go poof and you just shrug-it off.

P.S. Also EVE Metrics closed their doors Sad day for me. I used that site a lot.


You havent played the game long enough

PL has been on the brink of complete fail cascade on at least 2 separate occasions. Then they get back on their feet and become FOTM again. It ebbs and flows.

PL has had their LOL moments as well...though none quite as bad as 7 titans in a week. If they lose this moon kingdom it'll be like the third theyve lost.

Also I really hope that's sarcasm I see Kizu.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-06 20:05:52
January 06 2011 20:05 GMT
#5217
Well Ev0ke was scanning ships to Suicide gank in RFAP, it was stated in local multiple times and someone in Corp said there was a large blob of Ev0ke Battleships on the Ammold gate, Im in my pvp Ranis (Interceptor) and I see them ganking a golem, my adrenaline spikes and I turn on my AB (im lol AB fit because I was going to bait a dramiel to come into a static plex) and burn to the golem just as it pops and loot 1.5b worth-ish of items and dock immediatly, though I left about 120m worth of stuff my heart was pounding and im just glad I redocked.
Screenshot (Sorry its blurry shitty SS prog)
The killmail
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
January 06 2011 20:08 GMT
#5218
On January 06 2011 08:03 KwarK wrote:
Took me 5 or 6 ops before they started having survivors. But I had no-one to teach me. You guys don't know how lucky you are. Especially the new members.

I was thinking that the other day, wondering what it was like for the veterans of the Hatchery when they first started playing EVE. Maybe some day KwarK can regale me with a tale of his adventures in EVE?
Valestrum
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States246 Posts
January 06 2011 21:42 GMT
#5219
Hey, I've been wanting to try EVE for awhile but never really got around to it because I thought it might be too hard to learn alone.

But now I am ready to try playing it and hopefully I can make enough ISK to pay for myself to play and join up with you guys

Can anyone send me a free trial though please?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Guilford
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Australia290 Posts
January 06 2011 21:49 GMT
#5220
join scbw with a 14 days trial, there will be plenty of people who can send you a free trial
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