• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:16
CET 07:16
KST 15:16
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada1SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA2StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time? SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1925 users

EVE Corporation - Page 1939

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1937 1938 1939 1940 1941 2021 Next
https://discord.gg/c8jHgQpMSY

mity hat tree discord if you care
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
March 04 2015 23:18 GMT
#38761
On March 05 2015 07:57 Body_Shield wrote:
The timing on your fitting is kinda hilarious, since so many people in eve take like 4 days to fit something, and it's still bad.


Good thing for ccp to do though, small, repeatable, panic'd hilarity

since i was the last to post about fitting i feel kinda addressed, but i don't follow
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
March 05 2015 00:00 GMT
#38762
On March 05 2015 08:18 puerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 07:57 Body_Shield wrote:
The timing on your fitting is kinda hilarious, since so many people in eve take like 4 days to fit something, and it's still bad.


Good thing for ccp to do though, small, repeatable, panic'd hilarity

since i was the last to post about fitting i feel kinda addressed, but i don't follow


There are people who will spend days agonizing over how to fit something, pore over spreadsheets or extensively mess around in EFT, and still come up with fits that don't work.

I may or may not be speaking from personal experience.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
March 05 2015 00:02 GMT
#38763
oh ofc i did that aswell, i love working on fits in eft with damage graphs.....
and then i try my really great idea of a structure tanked vexor and die in my first engage without a chance^^
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
March 05 2015 00:33 GMT
#38764
On March 05 2015 00:37 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 22:10 puerk wrote:
well it seems like the consensus in the blogosphere is that the proposal needs big changes because interceptors reinforcing everything is to big a hassle.


it should be a hassle. if people lived in the systems that they owned or are at least close to them this wont be a problem.


Even living in the system, its still going to be damn annoying to kill an interceptor that has no goals other than to stay within 250k of something
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
March 05 2015 09:31 GMT
#38765
On March 05 2015 08:18 puerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 07:57 Body_Shield wrote:
The timing on your fitting is kinda hilarious, since so many people in eve take like 4 days to fit something, and it's still bad.


Good thing for ccp to do though, small, repeatable, panic'd hilarity

since i was the last to post about fitting i feel kinda addressed, but i don't follow

He's talking about the video in the reddit thread Ramiel/Chessur linked.
Moderator
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 11:44:43
March 05 2015 11:39 GMT
#38766
Started making a series of videos talking about different ship roles in a competent small gang. I decided to start with my favorite role / position- the anti-support ships. Hope you enjoy!

A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
March 05 2015 14:00 GMT
#38767
On March 05 2015 09:33 DiracMonopole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 00:37 Skilledblob wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:10 puerk wrote:
well it seems like the consensus in the blogosphere is that the proposal needs big changes because interceptors reinforcing everything is to big a hassle.


it should be a hassle. if people lived in the systems that they owned or are at least close to them this wont be a problem.


Even living in the system, its still going to be damn annoying to kill an interceptor that has no goals other than to stay within 250k of something


have CCP confirmed that the link allows you to actually move around while it is active? I got the impression that it would stop you from moving. and really killing a guy in a ceptor that cant move for 10min is not hard work.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
March 05 2015 15:15 GMT
#38768
On March 05 2015 20:39 Ramiel wrote:
Started making a series of videos talking about different ship roles in a competent small gang. I decided to start with my favorite role / position- the anti-support ships. Hope you enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AawRaxXeQ


This really shows me how clueless I am... your overview is a work of art.
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
March 05 2015 16:12 GMT
#38769
On March 05 2015 18:31 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 08:18 puerk wrote:
On March 05 2015 07:57 Body_Shield wrote:
The timing on your fitting is kinda hilarious, since so many people in eve take like 4 days to fit something, and it's still bad.


Good thing for ccp to do though, small, repeatable, panic'd hilarity

since i was the last to post about fitting i feel kinda addressed, but i don't follow

He's talking about the video in the reddit thread Ramiel/Chessur linked.

ah, thx, makes total sense... i watched it only after i finished my other elise videos i was catching up with, (he was flying with us and backseat commenting on our fc, which is (for a newb like me) hilarious and educational at the same time)
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
March 05 2015 18:22 GMT
#38770
To think that Chessur started here as the Stealth Bomber guy ~
Moderator
taurum
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany43 Posts
March 05 2015 20:38 GMT
#38771
On March 05 2015 20:39 Ramiel wrote:
Started making a series of videos talking about different ship roles in a competent small gang. I decided to start with my favorite role / position- the anti-support ships. Hope you enjoy!

Show nested quote +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AawRaxXeQ


Watched it, liked it, unterstood 30% ^^
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
March 06 2015 15:23 GMT
#38772
On March 06 2015 05:38 taurum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 20:39 Ramiel wrote:
Started making a series of videos talking about different ship roles in a competent small gang. I decided to start with my favorite role / position- the anti-support ships. Hope you enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AawRaxXeQ


Watched it, liked it, unterstood 30% ^^


I couldn't even figure out where he was on his map. It was just a bunch of random clicking.
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
March 06 2015 17:16 GMT
#38773
On March 07 2015 00:23 KillerSOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 05:38 taurum wrote:
On March 05 2015 20:39 Ramiel wrote:
Started making a series of videos talking about different ship roles in a competent small gang. I decided to start with my favorite role / position- the anti-support ships. Hope you enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AawRaxXeQ


Watched it, liked it, unterstood 30% ^^


I couldn't even figure out where he was on his map. It was just a bunch of random clicking.


Once you can understand the tactical overlay geometry, coupled with the ships shown on overview- you can get a really good idea of where things are in the 3D space. Once you have that down, you realize that only half of the clicking is random ;D
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-06 17:59:07
March 06 2015 17:57 GMT
#38774
On March 07 2015 02:16 Ramiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 00:23 KillerSOS wrote:
On March 06 2015 05:38 taurum wrote:
On March 05 2015 20:39 Ramiel wrote:
Started making a series of videos talking about different ship roles in a competent small gang. I decided to start with my favorite role / position- the anti-support ships. Hope you enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AawRaxXeQ


Watched it, liked it, unterstood 30% ^^


I couldn't even figure out where he was on his map. It was just a bunch of random clicking.


Once you can understand the tactical overlay geometry, coupled with the ships shown on overview- you can get a really good idea of where things are in the 3D space. Once you have that down, you realize that only half of the clicking is random ;D


I was suitably impressed, I'm just at the point where I feel so limited by skills that it's more than a little discouraging, which in turn makes it difficult to want to spend the time learning all the overlays!
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
March 06 2015 18:30 GMT
#38775
Honestly the biggest limiting factor in eve is your own knowledge and experience. Sutonias videos show that even a 2week old pvp character can get kills solo against other players- provided you have the piloting skills and knowledge to back it up. I think people focus too much on sp. having ingame knowledge and experience with a good fit easily outweighs all of the sp in the world.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
March 06 2015 18:54 GMT
#38776
On March 07 2015 03:30 Ramiel wrote:
Honestly the biggest limiting factor in eve is your own knowledge and experience. Sutonias videos show that even a 2week old pvp character can get kills solo against other players- provided you have the piloting skills and knowledge to back it up. I think people focus too much on sp. having ingame knowledge and experience with a good fit easily outweighs all of the sp in the world.

Yeah when I find time to go solo roaming, I frequently get kills on people with much more sp than me. SP matters, but so does knowledge, of both ship types and how to engage.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
March 06 2015 19:11 GMT
#38777
On March 07 2015 03:30 Ramiel wrote:
Honestly the biggest limiting factor in eve is your own knowledge and experience. Sutonias videos show that even a 2week old pvp character can get kills solo against other players- provided you have the piloting skills and knowledge to back it up. I think people focus too much on sp. having ingame knowledge and experience with a good fit easily outweighs all of the sp in the world.


What kind of ships was he flying? I'm working on actually correctly manually spiraling in on targets in Merlin's atm, but stuff seems to just 2 shot me at the moment.

I'm out in Null-sec.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4211 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 01:19:13
March 07 2015 01:18 GMT
#38778
On March 07 2015 04:11 KillerSOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 03:30 Ramiel wrote:
Honestly the biggest limiting factor in eve is your own knowledge and experience. Sutonias videos show that even a 2week old pvp character can get kills solo against other players- provided you have the piloting skills and knowledge to back it up. I think people focus too much on sp. having ingame knowledge and experience with a good fit easily outweighs all of the sp in the world.


What kind of ships was he flying? I'm working on actually correctly manually spiraling in on targets in Merlin's atm, but stuff seems to just 2 shot me at the moment.

I'm out in Null-sec.

That takes some practice. What I did when I was learning how to do it was get shot at by a fellow Hatchery member in different types of projectile ships (with a single turret, not grouped guns) to see what they were capable of when in the hands of a well skilled pilot. Against some ships you can spiral in very quickly, but against some others you really do have to take a very, very wide spiral in. You develop a feel for it after a while.

One of the best ways to do it when you're new is to aim your camera so that your ship and your target are in line with each other, and click at the edge of your screen. You'll move towards them, but on an angle, and then you reposition your camera so that again your ship and your target are in line with each other and then click at roughly the same point on the edge of your screen. If you keep doing this, you'll spiral in at a pretty decent but far from ideal rate, but some ships will still be able to hit you hard, so it's just a good way to get a feeling for spiraling in on someone.

Also, Chessur, nice video.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
March 10 2015 03:59 GMT
#38779
lol @ people worrying about interceptors realistically contesting sov

simple fix - make that sov link cause aggression, that will get rid of the "snaked inties contesting sov" problem very quickly ))
?
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
March 10 2015 06:17 GMT
#38780
I mean I kind of hope it stays, it won't do major damage to defended structures, and undefended ones should die ot any thing, and the main use for them will be trolling services which looks like it will be fun.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Prev 1 1937 1938 1939 1940 1941 2021 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 5h 44m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 930
Tasteless 252
ToSsGirL 27
Icarus 11
League of Legends
JimRising 568
Counter-Strike
Coldzera 555
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox428
Other Games
summit1g14270
C9.Mang0104
NeuroSwarm47
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick729
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH194
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Diggity3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1834
• Stunt545
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Korean Royale
5h 44m
OSC
10h 44m
Replay Cast
16h 44m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 5h
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 16h
The PondCast
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
BSL 21
5 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.