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puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
March 04 2015 23:18 GMT
#38761
On March 05 2015 07:57 Body_Shield wrote:
The timing on your fitting is kinda hilarious, since so many people in eve take like 4 days to fit something, and it's still bad.


Good thing for ccp to do though, small, repeatable, panic'd hilarity

since i was the last to post about fitting i feel kinda addressed, but i don't follow
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
March 05 2015 00:00 GMT
#38762
On March 05 2015 08:18 puerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 07:57 Body_Shield wrote:
The timing on your fitting is kinda hilarious, since so many people in eve take like 4 days to fit something, and it's still bad.


Good thing for ccp to do though, small, repeatable, panic'd hilarity

since i was the last to post about fitting i feel kinda addressed, but i don't follow


There are people who will spend days agonizing over how to fit something, pore over spreadsheets or extensively mess around in EFT, and still come up with fits that don't work.

I may or may not be speaking from personal experience.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
March 05 2015 00:02 GMT
#38763
oh ofc i did that aswell, i love working on fits in eft with damage graphs.....
and then i try my really great idea of a structure tanked vexor and die in my first engage without a chance^^
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
March 05 2015 00:33 GMT
#38764
On March 05 2015 00:37 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 22:10 puerk wrote:
well it seems like the consensus in the blogosphere is that the proposal needs big changes because interceptors reinforcing everything is to big a hassle.


it should be a hassle. if people lived in the systems that they owned or are at least close to them this wont be a problem.


Even living in the system, its still going to be damn annoying to kill an interceptor that has no goals other than to stay within 250k of something
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
March 05 2015 09:31 GMT
#38765
On March 05 2015 08:18 puerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 07:57 Body_Shield wrote:
The timing on your fitting is kinda hilarious, since so many people in eve take like 4 days to fit something, and it's still bad.


Good thing for ccp to do though, small, repeatable, panic'd hilarity

since i was the last to post about fitting i feel kinda addressed, but i don't follow

He's talking about the video in the reddit thread Ramiel/Chessur linked.
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Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-05 11:44:43
March 05 2015 11:39 GMT
#38766
Started making a series of videos talking about different ship roles in a competent small gang. I decided to start with my favorite role / position- the anti-support ships. Hope you enjoy!

A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
March 05 2015 14:00 GMT
#38767
On March 05 2015 09:33 DiracMonopole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 00:37 Skilledblob wrote:
On March 04 2015 22:10 puerk wrote:
well it seems like the consensus in the blogosphere is that the proposal needs big changes because interceptors reinforcing everything is to big a hassle.


it should be a hassle. if people lived in the systems that they owned or are at least close to them this wont be a problem.


Even living in the system, its still going to be damn annoying to kill an interceptor that has no goals other than to stay within 250k of something


have CCP confirmed that the link allows you to actually move around while it is active? I got the impression that it would stop you from moving. and really killing a guy in a ceptor that cant move for 10min is not hard work.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
March 05 2015 15:15 GMT
#38768
On March 05 2015 20:39 Ramiel wrote:
Started making a series of videos talking about different ship roles in a competent small gang. I decided to start with my favorite role / position- the anti-support ships. Hope you enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AawRaxXeQ


This really shows me how clueless I am... your overview is a work of art.
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
March 05 2015 16:12 GMT
#38769
On March 05 2015 18:31 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 08:18 puerk wrote:
On March 05 2015 07:57 Body_Shield wrote:
The timing on your fitting is kinda hilarious, since so many people in eve take like 4 days to fit something, and it's still bad.


Good thing for ccp to do though, small, repeatable, panic'd hilarity

since i was the last to post about fitting i feel kinda addressed, but i don't follow

He's talking about the video in the reddit thread Ramiel/Chessur linked.

ah, thx, makes total sense... i watched it only after i finished my other elise videos i was catching up with, (he was flying with us and backseat commenting on our fc, which is (for a newb like me) hilarious and educational at the same time)
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
March 05 2015 18:22 GMT
#38770
To think that Chessur started here as the Stealth Bomber guy ~
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taurum
Profile Joined April 2009
Germany43 Posts
March 05 2015 20:38 GMT
#38771
On March 05 2015 20:39 Ramiel wrote:
Started making a series of videos talking about different ship roles in a competent small gang. I decided to start with my favorite role / position- the anti-support ships. Hope you enjoy!

Show nested quote +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AawRaxXeQ


Watched it, liked it, unterstood 30% ^^
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
March 06 2015 15:23 GMT
#38772
On March 06 2015 05:38 taurum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2015 20:39 Ramiel wrote:
Started making a series of videos talking about different ship roles in a competent small gang. I decided to start with my favorite role / position- the anti-support ships. Hope you enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AawRaxXeQ


Watched it, liked it, unterstood 30% ^^


I couldn't even figure out where he was on his map. It was just a bunch of random clicking.
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
March 06 2015 17:16 GMT
#38773
On March 07 2015 00:23 KillerSOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2015 05:38 taurum wrote:
On March 05 2015 20:39 Ramiel wrote:
Started making a series of videos talking about different ship roles in a competent small gang. I decided to start with my favorite role / position- the anti-support ships. Hope you enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AawRaxXeQ


Watched it, liked it, unterstood 30% ^^


I couldn't even figure out where he was on his map. It was just a bunch of random clicking.


Once you can understand the tactical overlay geometry, coupled with the ships shown on overview- you can get a really good idea of where things are in the 3D space. Once you have that down, you realize that only half of the clicking is random ;D
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-06 17:59:07
March 06 2015 17:57 GMT
#38774
On March 07 2015 02:16 Ramiel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 00:23 KillerSOS wrote:
On March 06 2015 05:38 taurum wrote:
On March 05 2015 20:39 Ramiel wrote:
Started making a series of videos talking about different ship roles in a competent small gang. I decided to start with my favorite role / position- the anti-support ships. Hope you enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39AawRaxXeQ


Watched it, liked it, unterstood 30% ^^


I couldn't even figure out where he was on his map. It was just a bunch of random clicking.


Once you can understand the tactical overlay geometry, coupled with the ships shown on overview- you can get a really good idea of where things are in the 3D space. Once you have that down, you realize that only half of the clicking is random ;D


I was suitably impressed, I'm just at the point where I feel so limited by skills that it's more than a little discouraging, which in turn makes it difficult to want to spend the time learning all the overlays!
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
March 06 2015 18:30 GMT
#38775
Honestly the biggest limiting factor in eve is your own knowledge and experience. Sutonias videos show that even a 2week old pvp character can get kills solo against other players- provided you have the piloting skills and knowledge to back it up. I think people focus too much on sp. having ingame knowledge and experience with a good fit easily outweighs all of the sp in the world.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
March 06 2015 18:54 GMT
#38776
On March 07 2015 03:30 Ramiel wrote:
Honestly the biggest limiting factor in eve is your own knowledge and experience. Sutonias videos show that even a 2week old pvp character can get kills solo against other players- provided you have the piloting skills and knowledge to back it up. I think people focus too much on sp. having ingame knowledge and experience with a good fit easily outweighs all of the sp in the world.

Yeah when I find time to go solo roaming, I frequently get kills on people with much more sp than me. SP matters, but so does knowledge, of both ship types and how to engage.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
March 06 2015 19:11 GMT
#38777
On March 07 2015 03:30 Ramiel wrote:
Honestly the biggest limiting factor in eve is your own knowledge and experience. Sutonias videos show that even a 2week old pvp character can get kills solo against other players- provided you have the piloting skills and knowledge to back it up. I think people focus too much on sp. having ingame knowledge and experience with a good fit easily outweighs all of the sp in the world.


What kind of ships was he flying? I'm working on actually correctly manually spiraling in on targets in Merlin's atm, but stuff seems to just 2 shot me at the moment.

I'm out in Null-sec.
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4222 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-07 01:19:13
March 07 2015 01:18 GMT
#38778
On March 07 2015 04:11 KillerSOS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2015 03:30 Ramiel wrote:
Honestly the biggest limiting factor in eve is your own knowledge and experience. Sutonias videos show that even a 2week old pvp character can get kills solo against other players- provided you have the piloting skills and knowledge to back it up. I think people focus too much on sp. having ingame knowledge and experience with a good fit easily outweighs all of the sp in the world.


What kind of ships was he flying? I'm working on actually correctly manually spiraling in on targets in Merlin's atm, but stuff seems to just 2 shot me at the moment.

I'm out in Null-sec.

That takes some practice. What I did when I was learning how to do it was get shot at by a fellow Hatchery member in different types of projectile ships (with a single turret, not grouped guns) to see what they were capable of when in the hands of a well skilled pilot. Against some ships you can spiral in very quickly, but against some others you really do have to take a very, very wide spiral in. You develop a feel for it after a while.

One of the best ways to do it when you're new is to aim your camera so that your ship and your target are in line with each other, and click at the edge of your screen. You'll move towards them, but on an angle, and then you reposition your camera so that again your ship and your target are in line with each other and then click at roughly the same point on the edge of your screen. If you keep doing this, you'll spiral in at a pretty decent but far from ideal rate, but some ships will still be able to hit you hard, so it's just a good way to get a feeling for spiraling in on someone.

Also, Chessur, nice video.
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
March 10 2015 03:59 GMT
#38779
lol @ people worrying about interceptors realistically contesting sov

simple fix - make that sov link cause aggression, that will get rid of the "snaked inties contesting sov" problem very quickly ))
?
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
March 10 2015 06:17 GMT
#38780
I mean I kind of hope it stays, it won't do major damage to defended structures, and undefended ones should die ot any thing, and the main use for them will be trolling services which looks like it will be fun.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
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