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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17727 Posts
May 02 2014 13:02 GMT
#35961
What fit would you suggest for exploration Imicus?

Hobgoblins to deal with rats and some passive shield/speed tank to keep you safe while the drones go to town?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
May 02 2014 13:20 GMT
#35962
On May 02 2014 21:54 Ota Solgryn wrote:
I need help understading a thing that happened today on my Market orders:

I have 6 lasers for sale at 4.3M ISK each. I sold one yesterday for 4.3M ISK. Then today someone bought 2 of them for 5.42M ISK each!

Is he retarded or is there something I don't understand?

most likely he had his market sorted by quantity, which is a somewhat common order. when you buy something, the market will fill the order with the lowest-priced items in that station. say you have 5 foos up for 4.3m each, and somebody else has 2 for 5.42m each, nobody else has any foos on the market at that station, and the buyer has his market sorted by quantity. if he tries to buy both of the top one on his list, it'll sell 2 of yours for the higher price.
ModeratorFlash Sea Action Snow Midas | TheStC Ret Tyler MC | RIP 우정호
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
May 02 2014 13:49 GMT
#35963
So I just got done having a nice 15 min one on one conversation with rize. Things went poorly. The man seems to have his vision of eve and if you have a contrary view to it, friction ensues. He thinks / or said some of the following.
- power creep does not exist in eve, these ship changes are not causing power creep.
- he sees no problem with a game where all ships are more difficult to hit, and said well if all ships are harder to hit, then it's not really a balance issue then, because everyone and the entire ship line is effected. I couldn't go farther on this line of questioning. Pics have no idea if he relizes that by saying that, small ships are going to be heavily favored in the new meta.
- we also discussed recons. He feels that they don't need a lot of help currently, and that the main problem with them is that T3 are completely overshadowing their role.
- lastly he does not agree that ears are op or that they are currently completely outclassing recons.
- he did agree that ECM was a shit mechanic, and scales so poorly. Apparently he and his team are actively working in a way to make ECM and are or linear mechanic. That way ships can fly out of ECM fields, or avoid other things. Currently the game engine has a difficult time with some of this.

More dates to come when I get them
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Boggler
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada234 Posts
May 02 2014 13:50 GMT
#35964
Can this toon:

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Booker_Sheep pw: hkyifd

be sold for any decent isk after another 30 days of training?
Time is money, friend!
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
May 02 2014 13:51 GMT
#35965
In other news, Dust514 coming to PC.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43910 Posts
May 02 2014 13:56 GMT
#35966
Rise bad at eve?!?! Stunned silence filled literally no room.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43910 Posts
May 02 2014 14:14 GMT
#35967
How recons work
- Lock shit down at range
- Tank whatever damage still works at that range
- Move relatively fast due to being cruisers
- Limited by capacitor
- Pretty easy to hit

Changes here
- 25% damage bonuses on 8 battleship turret slot ships that have a higher base speed than recons and can apply damage outside of effective recon range
- Speed bonuses on every ship
- Sig reduction on most ships
- Most new ships cap stable
- Introduction of new cap stable, sig reduced ship moving 3x the speed of recons with 90% of the bonus for 10% of the price.

Nah mate, recons are in a great place right now.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Viceorvirtue
Profile Joined July 2010
United States273 Posts
May 02 2014 14:26 GMT
#35968
EAFs are only that powerful if you can pilot them decently. The vast majority of eve can't do this, and because of that, eafs are strictly worse than actual recons since you get no noticeable extended time on field by throwing reps at it. If the majority of eve understood how to manually pilot half decently these ships would go from 'not a problem' to 'so op plz nerf now'.

T3s outshining recons is due to the fact that they are basically good enough in the bonus department and have very sturdy tanks, which is only amplified by throwing logi on them and results in little to no effective piloting required other than the classic approach f1. So Rise does make sense, granted the entire thought process and basis is shit, but it is logical.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43910 Posts
May 02 2014 14:44 GMT
#35969
Recently had a keres point me at 40km, damp me down to 20km and then orbit me cap stable at 30km forever. Even if he'd fucked up and I'd been able to get within 20km of him I couldn't have hit the fucker and he still had room for a MSE there. In the olden days you had to make tradeoffs, for example the lach can't damp, point, tank and move while being cap stable and certainly can't do it while being fast. It was a case of "here are 5 things you want, pick any 3" resulting in exploitable tradeoffs. Eafs were similar with lock range, cap, speed and tank issues causing a similar tradeoff. But the new ones have no fitting problems, it's just "look at bonus, fit all of that stuff, be cap stable anyway, lock at 80km anyway, be really fast". They're a completely different thing to recons and symptomatic of the ongoing power creep that embodies CCP design. They're really, really good at what they do with several slots (signal amps, nanos, cap rechargers) rolled into the hull in order to make a ship that unquestionably dominates the role because the way you know that your new content is popular and appreciated by the players is by seeing if it has a high uptake among the player base. On a similar note I propose a ship type which, if you field one, makes all enemy ships on the field except hostile versions of itself instantly explode. I predict a high player uptake of this ship and therefore it must be good game design.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43910 Posts
May 02 2014 14:47 GMT
#35970
Finally a CCP plex sale.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Galdo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States338 Posts
May 02 2014 14:55 GMT
#35971
On May 02 2014 22:20 Antoine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2014 21:54 Ota Solgryn wrote:
I need help understading a thing that happened today on my Market orders:

I have 6 lasers for sale at 4.3M ISK each. I sold one yesterday for 4.3M ISK. Then today someone bought 2 of them for 5.42M ISK each!

Is he retarded or is there something I don't understand?

most likely he had his market sorted by quantity, which is a somewhat common order. when you buy something, the market will fill the order with the lowest-priced items in that station. say you have 5 foos up for 4.3m each, and somebody else has 2 for 5.42m each, nobody else has any foos on the market at that station, and the buyer has his market sorted by quantity. if he tries to buy both of the top one on his list, it'll sell 2 of yours for the higher price.

Not your case specifically, but I have often overpaid for stuff intentionally. Order #5 down on the price sort has enough for me to fill my desired quantity, so I buy at his price, and it fills from everyone above, overpaying them.

Save having to buy multiple times, at a slight price increase.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
May 02 2014 15:25 GMT
#35972
On May 02 2014 22:02 Manit0u wrote:
What fit would you suggest for exploration Imicus?

Hobgoblins to deal with rats and some passive shield/speed tank to keep you safe while the drones go to town?


there are no rats in data and relic sites.
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
May 02 2014 16:10 GMT
#35973
Got to sit down at the evesports panel, and CCP seems really interested in brining more turns and more pvp opportunity to eve. Had a nice long chat with garomon. Also CCP is actively looking for isd volunteers to help run more turns in game, and giving these players dev roles. Could be happening soon.

More updates coming when I have time
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Wild Things
Profile Joined February 2014
United States42 Posts
May 02 2014 18:33 GMT
#35974
The new Mordu's Legion cruiser is going to be pretty great, I think. Scram range kiting at 22k with perfect damage application.
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 19:03:35
May 02 2014 19:02 GMT
#35975
On May 02 2014 22:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
In other news, Dust514 coming to PC.


Whelp I've been playing dust 514 for 2 years since the NDA beta. I must congratulate ccp on their most impressive of trolls.

our last update was in march and since then they told us to keep all eyes on fanfest for the new look into a build bringing entirely new content, and to buy fanfest tickets to come play with the devs.

I almost went to fanfest this year, and am I glad I didn't. I almost can't wait to hear from dusties that I knew went. To show up drunk with excitement to sit through the keynote of dust after a total blackout of news to see the new build, heart pounding knowing that suddenly after all of the poor implementations and bugs that you would now justify all the hard sells to your friends.

then the key note starts, you watch it and you're like hey cool dust on PC, ok so what's coming for dust? You're in denial at this point it hasn't kicked in. You go from dust round table to dust round table. All these great ideas are coming! You raise your hand and ask when they'll be in dust and the same reply comes oh no this is for legion. You're confused the sign said dust 514.

you check the forums to see how the most recent dust event is going you know the one you were encouraged to buy things with real money to celebrate fanfest and the dust news. There's a lot of noise and the cpms (dust csm) have been posting like crazy in anarchy openly insulting players and devs a like claiming to have been in on some cruel joke.

then like the last 2 minutes of an m night shamalon movie it hits you, I just paid a lot of money to be told my game was being canceled. That all development was over for dust and that nothing would transfer over, but hey legion will do all the things we promised that was coming to dust this year.

Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
May 02 2014 19:32 GMT
#35976
Can confirm dust went to shit.

The new mordu ships, and phantasms are going to be so fucking op. They basically. Made a playable adrestia, second only in speed to the cynabal lololol
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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 19:35:38
May 02 2014 19:34 GMT
#35977
so they are basically closing down PS3 dust?

mordus angels ships will depend A LOT on missiles being any good. or you can look forward to flying the mordus cruiser with light missile launchers
Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
May 02 2014 19:41 GMT
#35978
On May 03 2014 04:34 Skilledblob wrote:
so they are basically closing down PS3 dust?

mordus angels ships will depend A LOT on missiles being any good. or you can look forward to flying the mordus cruiser with light missile launchers


No use hams, or HMLs. If you scram something, is not moving, so damage application is massively increased.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43910 Posts
May 02 2014 19:51 GMT
#35979
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=159252&find=unread
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
May 02 2014 19:55 GMT
#35980
On May 03 2014 04:02 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2014 22:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
In other news, Dust514 coming to PC.


Whelp I've been playing dust 514 for 2 years since the NDA beta. I must congratulate ccp on their most impressive of trolls.

our last update was in march and since then they told us to keep all eyes on fanfest for the new look into a build bringing entirely new content, and to buy fanfest tickets to come play with the devs.

I almost went to fanfest this year, and am I glad I didn't. I almost can't wait to hear from dusties that I knew went. To show up drunk with excitement to sit through the keynote of dust after a total blackout of news to see the new build, heart pounding knowing that suddenly after all of the poor implementations and bugs that you would now justify all the hard sells to your friends.

then the key note starts, you watch it and you're like hey cool dust on PC, ok so what's coming for dust? You're in denial at this point it hasn't kicked in. You go from dust round table to dust round table. All these great ideas are coming! You raise your hand and ask when they'll be in dust and the same reply comes oh no this is for legion. You're confused the sign said dust 514.

you check the forums to see how the most recent dust event is going you know the one you were encouraged to buy things with real money to celebrate fanfest and the dust news. There's a lot of noise and the cpms (dust csm) have been posting like crazy in anarchy openly insulting players and devs a like claiming to have been in on some cruel joke.

then like the last 2 minutes of an m night shamalon movie it hits you, I just paid a lot of money to be told my game was being canceled. That all development was over for dust and that nothing would transfer over, but hey legion will do all the things we promised that was coming to dust this year.



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