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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
May 02 2014 19:56 GMT
#35981
From what I've seen they've really given Dust the short end of the stick. Wonder if this will rise to monoclegate levels.
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Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
May 02 2014 19:57 GMT
#35982
Dust was dead all along and nobody ever thought it would be anything, so doubt it
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
May 02 2014 19:58 GMT
#35983
On May 03 2014 04:34 Skilledblob wrote:
so they are basically closing down PS3 dust?

mordus angels ships will depend A LOT on missiles being any good. or you can look forward to flying the mordus cruiser with light missile launchers


you can log in because they are contractually obligated to keep it going for x years. But development is over, saberwng is trying to keep the dream alive for character transfers but CPM members have broken NDAs to their corps telling us that its not going to happen.

its literally turned into a ffa where everyone has rushed to get refunds and charge backs for their purchases.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43206 Posts
May 02 2014 20:00 GMT
#35984
RIP Dust, 5/14, never forget
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43206 Posts
May 02 2014 20:00 GMT
#35985
On May 03 2014 04:57 Zavior wrote:
Dust was dead all along and nobody ever thought it would be anything, so doubt it

They ran a sale two weeks ago pushing people to buy skillpoints for a game they had no plan to keep supporting.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 20:04:30
May 02 2014 20:03 GMT
#35986
Yes, money grab, business, cold evil capitalists

I still do not believe for a moment they had any plan to keep dust alive except for what contractual obligations they might have with sony
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
May 02 2014 20:04 GMT
#35987
On May 03 2014 04:56 Firebolt145 wrote:
From what I've seen they've really given Dust the short end of the stick. Wonder if this will rise to monoclegate levels.


we don't have the players nor the kind of open forum to protest that eve does. For the most part people are just biomassing in droves. I don't have time for the drama I just logged in to ask a few people I liked playing with if they would continue to play, distributed isk among them and logged out after writing down their psn ids incase our games ever overlapped.

I was playing for the long haul, like getting in at the ground level of eve and having multiple characters with 10 years of skilling and assets, so I looked past a lot of faults for the future and since there is none I won't bother wasting my time grinding skills.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11927 Posts
May 02 2014 20:06 GMT
#35988
On May 03 2014 04:55 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 04:02 abominare wrote:
On May 02 2014 22:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
In other news, Dust514 coming to PC.


Whelp I've been playing dust 514 for 2 years since the NDA beta. I must congratulate ccp on their most impressive of trolls.

our last update was in march and since then they told us to keep all eyes on fanfest for the new look into a build bringing entirely new content, and to buy fanfest tickets to come play with the devs.

I almost went to fanfest this year, and am I glad I didn't. I almost can't wait to hear from dusties that I knew went. To show up drunk with excitement to sit through the keynote of dust after a total blackout of news to see the new build, heart pounding knowing that suddenly after all of the poor implementations and bugs that you would now justify all the hard sells to your friends.

then the key note starts, you watch it and you're like hey cool dust on PC, ok so what's coming for dust? You're in denial at this point it hasn't kicked in. You go from dust round table to dust round table. All these great ideas are coming! You raise your hand and ask when they'll be in dust and the same reply comes oh no this is for legion. You're confused the sign said dust 514.

you check the forums to see how the most recent dust event is going you know the one you were encouraged to buy things with real money to celebrate fanfest and the dust news. There's a lot of noise and the cpms (dust csm) have been posting like crazy in anarchy openly insulting players and devs a like claiming to have been in on some cruel joke.

then like the last 2 minutes of an m night shamalon movie it hits you, I just paid a lot of money to be told my game was being canceled. That all development was over for dust and that nothing would transfer over, but hey legion will do all the things we promised that was coming to dust this year.



Stories of A Legion Pre-Alpha Tester


So a normal Dust player is an Alpha Tester? (Partially functional game.)
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17421 Posts
May 02 2014 20:07 GMT
#35989
On May 03 2014 00:25 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2014 22:02 Manit0u wrote:
What fit would you suggest for exploration Imicus?

Hobgoblins to deal with rats and some passive shield/speed tank to keep you safe while the drones go to town?


there are no rats in data and relic sites.


Oh, cool. Didn't know that. But there can possibly be people who want to drive me away, right?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
May 02 2014 20:10 GMT
#35990
It's painfully CCP-like for them to do this to DUST, like amazingly so.
1. CCP realizes the malformed putty blob that is dust514
2. then just make a new game to fit what they originally wanted (or this will be shit too, it is CCP after all).
3. ccp slowly stops talking or acknowledging the problem altogether as if it never existed

This is pretty much just short of an apology to the community for not having DUST on PC to begin with.

So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17421 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 20:26:08
May 02 2014 20:17 GMT
#35991
On May 03 2014 05:10 Body_Shield wrote:
It's painfully CCP-like for them to do this to DUST, like amazingly so.
1. CCP realizes the malformed putty blob that is dust514
2. then just make a new game to fit what they originally wanted (or this will be shit too, it is CCP after all).
3. ccp slowly stops talking or acknowledging the problem altogether as if it never existed

This is pretty much just short of an apology to the community for not having DUST on PC to begin with.


Although DUST 514 and Project Legion will function independently of one another, and are different projects on different development paths, DUST itself has a lot more shooting-in-the-face action to come. The team and I remain committed to continuing to improve the experience on PlayStation 3, while simultaneously making sure “Project Legion” becomes the experience we’ve all dreamt of.


Source: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2014/05/introducing-project-legion/

It seems to me that PL is something completely different from D514 and that they're not explicitly stating that they're going to cease support for it on PS3 (on the contrary).

Edit: Also, it seems that not everyone is so sad about it.


I was so overjoyed at this that I literally cried tears of pure semen.
- CaptainButtonMasher


Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
May 02 2014 20:18 GMT
#35992
It's one of those 'read between the lines' things
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43206 Posts
May 02 2014 20:20 GMT
#35993
Dust doesn't work and has never worked and CCP have been offering countless promises to work on that and then have delivered "Yeah, we appreciate your feedback, and your money, absolutely your money, but we're gonna use that feedback, oh, and that money, to make a different game. A game that you can't play".
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43206 Posts
May 02 2014 20:23 GMT
#35994
Oh, and they said that Dust would last a decade while selling people items that created isk over time and permanent upgrades and now are explaining they have no intention to ever port Dust, or your Dust character, to another console than PS3. Best case scenario is you and the other guy with a PS3 in ten years time will be playing 1v1s whenever you're both online.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
May 02 2014 20:34 GMT
#35995
@manit

yea they're totally different in that we really need to got get into a contract dispute with Sony. Now if you don't mind let us show you our demo running with dust 514 assets. Also pay no attention to that art dev blog explaining that art assets were rendered in u4 for future planning before being backwards ported to u3 for the ps3. Also that PL is using the u4 engine, there's no coincidence. I mean I knew the game was going places I just didn't expect that they'd lock the doors at the bus stop I was waiting at.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17421 Posts
May 02 2014 20:37 GMT
#35996
On May 03 2014 05:34 abominare wrote:
@manit

yea they're totally different in that we really need to got get into a contract dispute with Sony. Now if you don't mind let us show you our demo running with dust 514 assets. Also pay no attention to that art dev blog explaining that art assets were rendered in u4 for future planning before being backwards ported to u3 for the ps3. Also that PL is using the u4 engine, there's no coincidence. I mean I knew the game was going places I just didn't expect that they'd lock the doors at the bus stop I was waiting at.


Don't get mad at me. I don't know jack about D514 (was vaguely interested until I read it's only on PS3, at this point my interest in it ceased entirely) and was just curious why so many people seem so upset with CCP pulling out of the console market. If anything stated in the video I linked is true (like Dust having 2-3k players tops at any given time and that you can only play 16v16 etc.) then I can't say I'm surprised they don't want to delve into it any longer.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
May 02 2014 20:48 GMT
#35997
On May 03 2014 05:37 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2014 05:34 abominare wrote:
@manit

yea they're totally different in that we really need to got get into a contract dispute with Sony. Now if you don't mind let us show you our demo running with dust 514 assets. Also pay no attention to that art dev blog explaining that art assets were rendered in u4 for future planning before being backwards ported to u3 for the ps3. Also that PL is using the u4 engine, there's no coincidence. I mean I knew the game was going places I just didn't expect that they'd lock the doors at the bus stop I was waiting at.


Don't get mad at me. I don't know jack about D514 (was vaguely interested until I read it's only on PS3, at this point my interest in it ceased entirely) and was just curious why so many people seem so upset with CCP pulling out of the console market. If anything stated in the video I linked is true (like Dust having 2-3k players tops at any given time and that you can only play 16v16 etc.) then I can't say I'm surprised they don't want to delve into it any longer.

lol I'm not mad at you didn't even mean it. At this point I'm well into the acceptance stage and just laughing at how well done this screw over was.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-02 21:08:20
May 02 2014 21:07 GMT
#35998
No, you see, you introduce a game that the original should have been, then claim you won't stop supporting the first. This soothes the playerbase somewhat because, hey, we're still relevant and CCP cares about us. Now, since this is a better game then the original, new players will go to that one, and not the old one (also due to it being on the PC), and players that have DUST514 will also go to the new game (its better, and its not on a shit platform, so it would be stupid not to change).

Thus the playerbase for DUST514 dwindles over time, until it reaches a very low point, then CCP says to everyone, sorry guys but we can't support this anymore, no one is playing this game. They might give people a matchmaking thing that is disconnected from Eve or something just to say they did something, then stop most support. Now no one blames CCP that DUST died, because hey, people stopped playing it, it had nothing to do with CCP actions, they weren't malicious or evil in the slightest.

But really, it was planned and probably scheduled.

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pancake master race
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
May 02 2014 21:11 GMT
#35999
It's like a flat Star Trek ship.
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Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
May 02 2014 21:24 GMT
#36000
On May 03 2014 06:07 Body_Shield wrote:
No, you see, you introduce a game that the original should have been, then claim you won't stop supporting the first. This soothes the playerbase somewhat because, hey, we're still relevant and CCP cares about us. Now, since this is a better game then the original, new players will go to that one, and not the old one (also due to it being on the PC), and players that have DUST514 will also go to the new game (its better, and its not on a shit platform, so it would be stupid not to change).

Thus the playerbase for DUST514 dwindles over time, until it reaches a very low point, then CCP says to everyone, sorry guys but we can't support this anymore, no one is playing this game. They might give people a matchmaking thing that is disconnected from Eve or something just to say they did something, then stop most support. Now no one blames CCP that DUST died, because hey, people stopped playing it, it had nothing to do with CCP actions, they weren't malicious or evil in the slightest.

But really, it was planned and probably scheduled.

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