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That Algos seems totally pointless outside of one very specific role (you're in a fleet and have someone else to do the tackling). You can't kill anyone on your own because you have no tackle. When you enter a plex you are going to be close to the NPC you have to kill. Why do you need 100km of engagement range?
If you just want to farm plexes a T1 frigate is likely your best bet because it can enter all plexes. If you like drones, try a Tristan. I like the 3 neut version.
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[Algos, RR SCRAM 1]
Internal Force Field Array I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Coreli A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Centii A-Type Small Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Small Remote Repair Augmentor I
Small Remote Repair Augmentor I
Small Remote Repair Augmentor I
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United States43907 Posts
I just Zimmerman'd some blues. Maybe I had no legal grounds to execute them but I believed their actions were threatening and I took steps to make myself feel safe and to stand my ground.
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Debating picking up Eve as a past-time during the summer holidays, and a small hobby during university times. I know it is a rather bias place to ask, but would Eve be a recommendable game for that? I want something with a degree of difficulty, and a decent sense of progress and from what I have seen EVE looks to have that.
Any advice or such would be appreciated 
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If you consider wading through neck deep mud a decent sense of progress and you enjoy getting beat down repeatedly by people who do not know what they are doing for at least two month an adequate degree of difficulty then it is the right game for you.
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
On April 19 2014 03:00 0m3ga wrote:Show nested quote +
[Algos, RR SCRAM 1]
Internal Force Field Array I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Coreli A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Centii A-Type Small Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Small Remote Repair Augmentor I
Small Remote Repair Augmentor I
Small Remote Repair Augmentor I
you could also look at podla corp losses for proper algos fits, you'd probably have to scroll back for an hour though
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On April 18 2014 22:35 Manit0u wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Algos] +
[SNIPEGOS – CHEAP FLEET DRONE SNIPER]
Drone Link Augmentator II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Alumnel-Wired Sensor Augmentation / Targeting Range Script
Alumnel-Wired Sensor Augmentation / Targeting Range Script
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Drone Control Range Augmentator I
Small Drone Control Range Augmentator I
The optimal drone combination for damage is:
Hammerhead II x 2
Hobgoblin II x 3
Although I prefer most of the time to use five Hobgoblin IIs plus a flight of Warrior IIs in reserve
to throw at fast frigates.
EHP: 6397.0 DPS: 272 with the 2 x HHI + 3 x HGII combo, 219 with HGIIs or 178 with Warrior IIs Speed: 1673m/s Capacitor: stable at 31.6% Optimal range: Targetting to 124.2km, drone range is 114km, although 100km is ideal. Cost: 11m ISK approx. Do you think it would be fine to aim for this kind of ship to farm some plex via faction warfare early on?
It would take 47 seconds for a hammerhead 2 to travel 124km even with the speed boost from the algos; that's enough time to finish your tea, watch a youtube video and jack off before warping out. Then you have to wait ANOTHER 47 seconds for them to fly back before you can give chase.
As Cath pointed out if you're doing FW you'll almost always start a fight within 30km, so there's no point to any range beyond that.
But most important is the combat speed of drones, the orbit velocity of a hammerhead 2 is 480m/s so without a way to slow them down any frig, destroyer or cruiser with any prop mod at all will take zero damage from it.
hobgoblin 2 goes 660m/s and warrior 2 are fastest at 900m/s, so any frig with an AB or MWD is still faster, as well as any cruiser with a MWD.
"So what the hell are drones good for then?" you ask. Well honestly not a lot, but you can make them work if you fit a scram and if possible a web. That means you want a brawling ship rather than a kiting one. Lucky for you the algos makes for a great brawling/gank boat!
Solo Algos PvP
Shield gank Show nested quote +
[Algos, Shield PvP]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Internal Force Field Array I
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Shield Extender II
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x3
Armor and a web Show nested quote +[Algos, Armor PvP]
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Damage Control II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x3
And again I'm going to agree with Cath and recommend the Tristan, here are a few fits:
Dual neut Show nested quote +[Tristan, Dual neut]
Damage Control II
200mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
1MN Afterburner II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction
[empty high slot]
Small Egress Port Maximizer I
Small Egress Port Maximizer I
Small Egress Port Maximizer I
Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x3
Tri neut Show nested quote +[Tristan, Tri neut]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x3
Blaster AAR Show nested quote +[Tristan, Blaster AAR]
Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
1MN Afterburner II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
[empty high slot]
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Nanobot Accelerator I
Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x3
Dual Rep Show nested quote +[Tristan, Dual rep]
Damage Control II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Small Armor Repairer II
1MN Afterburner II
Warp Scrambler II
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Hobgoblin II x5
Armor Buffer Show nested quote +[Tristan, 400m plate buffer]
Damage Control II
Navy Micro Auxiliary Power Core
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1MN Afterburner II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Light Electron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x3
Note I haven't actually bothered to test out most of these fits, so fly at your own risk!
Also Om3ga's baby potato fit looks hilarious and I'm going to need some videos of it in action.
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On April 19 2014 08:45 419 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2014 03:00 0m3ga wrote:
[Algos, RR SCRAM 1]
Internal Force Field Array I
Adaptive Nano Plating II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Small Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Centii A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Coreli A-Type Small Remote Armor Repairer
Centii A-Type Small Remote Capacitor Transmitter
Small Remote Repair Augmentor I
Small Remote Repair Augmentor I
Small Remote Repair Augmentor I
you could also look at podla corp losses for proper algos fits, you'd probably have to scroll back for an hour though
Old podla version has less reps, more buffer, and doesn't need a cap transfer
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United States43907 Posts
Been flying my nano zealot a lot today because it has the point. Not sure I've been especially getting more kills because of it though, I had a ratting gnosis but got falconed, most of the things I point have either been so small they'd have died anyway or pretty big. Only big kill that was 100% cause of the point was when firebolt and I went oracle zealot vs 2x cynabal and a vaga and we killed a cynabal before they gtfoed. Still, better than killing nothing.
Would definitely not be comfortable flying snakeless in the zealot though. Also increasingly uncomfortable with the capacitor of the ONI, it's definitely a burst ship with my current fit. Thinking this, with dual LSE and a PDS, may be better.
+ Show Spoiler +[Omen Navy Issue, dual LSE]
Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Power Diagnostic System II
Large Shield Extender II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
[Empty High slot]
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator I
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I tried flying a nomen with an 800plate, was pretty good IMO. Gives you the mid slot for a cap booster. I could see one with a medium ancil being okay, maybe 1 energized adaptive. Didn't they just give amarr a buff for armor agility/speed? Maybe worth a try if the only thing holding you back is the cap. You could have mwd/cap/point on it. Maybe drop the pds and a nano for a 800mm/resist.
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mwd, medium cap booster and a point works perfectly fine on the ONI. Then you put an ancillary armor rep in the low slot and the other usual stuff and you are good to go. I get the feeling kwark thinks a bit too complicated 
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Agree. MAAR Nomen is standard for a reason. Fixes the cap issues completely.
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United States43907 Posts
So some snaked RF point deadspace mwd deimos are fucking around outside the FA staging system while FA have a fleet up. I talk to their FC, explain I can get a scram on a deimos and we can kill and pod him if he just is ready to have fleet undock and warp to the X. He says he understands. I then do my bit and I hold the deimos for a full minute. First thing to land on grid, as I die, is a mega.
Fucking FA. That was a free fucking 4b isk kill served to them on a plate.
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Ok, I did some reading and decided to not go with Gallente bullshit. Please give some tips on cheap but effective Punisher with which I'll be able to farm some plex/run early missions.
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Lalalaland34503 Posts
What kind of reading did you do D:
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Tormentor seems to be more popular. Can find fits later but start there.
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On April 20 2014 06:30 Firebolt145 wrote:
What kind of reading did you do D:
Well, I was checking various fits, racial specialities etc. and I think that pew pew lasers and armor tank are the way to go for me (don't have to remember about ammo etc.) because I'm a lazy bastard. Just need to figure out a ship that will have OK dps and tank while running stable cap (if that's even possible).
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you almost never get cap stability with any kind of fit that makes sense, and (faction)ammo is dirt cheap :3
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United States43907 Posts
On April 20 2014 08:11 Zavior wrote:
you almost never get cap stability with any kind of fit that makes sense, and (faction)ammo is dirt cheap :3
Every t2 ship CCP have rebalanced would like a word with you.
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How about this? Cap is stable at 38% (assuming all skills at 5 hehe).
[Punisher, pve]
Heat Sink II
Capacitor Power Relay II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II
Cap Recharger II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
Small Focused Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Noob version (cap lasts 15min without any skills):
[Punisher, noob version]
Heat Sink I
Capacitor Power Relay I
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Cap Recharger I
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I
Dual Light Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S
Dual Light Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S
Dual Light Pulse Laser I, Multifrequency S
Small Nosferatu I
Also, are ECM/Web drones useful in any way?
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