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On April 17 2014 15:07 DefMatrixUltra wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2014 14:56 Jaaaaasper wrote: So do you guys think Themittani actually flies ships any more? This is like peering into a time portal that looks back to 2009. It's probably not too much a of a stretch to say that mittens probably never flew anything in EVE except noob ships and Hulks and then quit the game. Actually it turns out he flies blops on the occasional structure grind.
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That sounds eerily exactly like what I said.
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I sound eerily like I should go to bed.
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I saw the mittani in a dram once, in ec-
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United States7481 Posts
On April 17 2014 14:56 Jaaaaasper wrote: So do you guys think Themittani actually flies ships any more? he flies blops a lot, fcs dreads and supers on structures, and has a character in rvb though I don't know what it is so I can't say how active that is.
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i guess hauling 11.5b in a t1 hauler is standard in provi?
edit: 2007 character, you'd think he would know better...
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United States41979 Posts
Torn between a dozen different fits for pvp and need analysis of numbers. Ships flown with quafe, choice of drugs, links, HG snakes and 5%s.
+ Show Spoiler [harb navy] +[Harbinger Navy Issue, nano]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Damage Control II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Tracking Enhancer II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Warp Disruptor II Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II Medium Energy Metastasis Adjuster II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Vespa EC-600 x5
Snake Alpha Snake Beta Snake Gamma Snake Delta Snake Epsilon Snake Omega Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705 Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-905 Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Large Energy Turret LE-1005
Pros - 65k EHP with bc capacitor and shield regen - Monstrous dps (664 heated multi, 529 heated scorch, 741 heated conflag) - Has a point - Has a web - Has a neut - Has 5 ec-600s - Death to all frigates (web + a multi tracking speed of 0.227 rad/s) Cons - 2252m/s - 29k+6k range (won't be kiting and nuking inties anytime soon, will have to rely on killing them once scrammed so vulnerable to suddenly falcons) - 184m - Will 100% result in the loss of my snakes to the aforementioned inty + falcon
+ Show Spoiler [AB only nomen] + [Omen Navy Issue, nano]
Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II Tracking Enhancer II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Overdrive Injector System II Tracking Enhancer II
Warp Disruptor II Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 150 Gistum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Vespa EC-600 x5
Snake Alpha Snake Beta Snake Gamma Snake Delta Snake Epsilon Snake Omega Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705 Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-903 Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Large Energy Turret LE-1005
Pros - 51k+7k range with scorch - Has a point - Can't be scrammed - Has okay dps (434 heated with scorch) - Has ec-600s - Has a med neut - Has literally the lowest sig (nomen has a lower base sig than zealot for example so this is way faster and way smaller than traditional armourhacs) - Heated AB speed of 2608m/s which is pretty legit - 155m
Cons - Doesn't make any fucking sense (max range kiting then no mwd?) - Tracking limited up close (0.12 rad/s with multi) - Will 100% result in the loss of my snakes
+ Show Spoiler [nano zealot] +[Zealot, nano]
Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Tracking Enhancer II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Warp Disruptor II Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Snake Alpha Snake Beta Snake Gamma Snake Delta Snake Epsilon Snake Omega Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705 Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-905 Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Large Energy Turret LE-1005
Pros - Has a point - Has great capacitor (for a non injected mwd longpointing laser ship) - 55k+6k optimal with scorch - Great dps (490 with scorch, 615 multi) - Not too slow since I added the 3rd speed lowslot (5212 mwd with heat) - I may still have snakes at the end of the day
Cons - Still way slower than the comparable nomen - No drone bay - 196m - Bad tracking up close, if scrammed, fucked
+ Show Spoiler [nomen with neut] +[Omen Navy Issue, dual prop]
Damage Control II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Tracking Enhancer II
10MN Afterburner II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Vespa EC-600 x5
Snake Alpha Snake Beta Snake Gamma Snake Delta Snake Epsilon Snake Omega Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705 Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-903 Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Large Energy Turret LE-1005
Pros - 6173m/s heated mwd, 2013m/s heated AB - 55k+6k optimal with scorch, 346 scorch dps - Has a med neut - Has ec-600s - Has better cap than the next nomen fit - Death to all tackle - Won't lose my snakes - 90m isk
Cons - Primary will warp away - Unless AB brawling med neut is of limited overlap with the rest of the ship design, if scrammed mistakes were made
+ Show Spoiler [nomen faster no neut] +[Omen Navy Issue, dual prop no neut]
Damage Control II Overdrive Injector System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Tracking Enhancer II
10MN Afterburner II Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Drone Link Augmentor II
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Vespa EC-600 x5
Snake Alpha Snake Beta Snake Gamma Snake Delta Snake Epsilon Snake Omega Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705 Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-903 Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Large Energy Turret LE-1005
Pros - Comedy speed (7235m/s mwd, 2359m/s AB)
Cons - As above but also worse cap and no neut
+ Show Spoiler [nomen beams?] +[Omen Navy Issue, beam test]
Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Power Diagnostic System II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Tracking Enhancer II
Sensor Booster II, Targeting Range Script Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared M Heavy Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Infrared M Drone Link Augmentor I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Vespa EC-600 x5
Snake Alpha Snake Beta Snake Gamma Snake Delta Snake Epsilon Snake Omega Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705 Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-903 Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Large Energy Turret LE-1005
Cons - Beams - Difficult questions like "where exactly is the line drawn between your snipey frig killing nomen and this?" - Lower dps
+ Show Spoiler [oracle] + [Oracle, nano]
Damage Control II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Tracking Enhancer II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II
Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L Mega Pulse Laser II, Scorch L
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Snake Alpha Snake Beta Snake Gamma Snake Delta Snake Epsilon Snake Omega Eifyr and Co. 'Rogue' Evasive Maneuvering EM-705 Zor's Custom Navigation Hyper-Link Eifyr and Co. 'Gunslinger' Surgical Strike SS-905 Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Large Energy Turret LE-1005
Pros - 125m - Nostalgia - Still has 823 heated scorch dps, 1152 conflag - 74k+12k range - Best capacitor
Cons - 4119m/s heated mwd - Can't kill frigs - Killing frigs is all that matters in the current meta - This will lose me my snakes - Doesn't have an optimal range bonus
Help me decide!
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Really depends on where you want to be flying these. In FW space, you will get destroyed, and raped. EAF's / Intys (and god forbid if they are snaked / linked) will simply shit all over anything AB or Oracle like. You don't have the speed to help your rather poor tracking. If i had to choose, it would be an MWD injected, RF point Korvix Nomen. Linked / Snaked. You can kite / be fast enough to have a large profile of engagement.
If you are flying non FW / in a gang- take an oracle and fly with Heretic / Hawk / Stabber (any ship that has med neuts / high tracking guns)
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United States41979 Posts
Delve, I'm Red Winging again and getting a lot of good action. I was thinking maybe two navy harb, two oracle and a nomen for points, antitackle, webs, dps, tracking and range. Good overlap etc. If I'm by myself I'm leaning towards zealot.
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Ohh redwings? Want company?
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United States41979 Posts
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I'm thinking you could always mix in a ewar frig or 2 for afk pointing or hyena webs.
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I could always lose ships by doing something stupid (but have good ship selection).
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
1. you're flying BCs 2. you're flying BCs 3. you're flying BCs 4. don't fly BCs
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I finally got my hands on a comp with Windows (patching EVE on Linux killed me) and looking to play some for fun. Will you guys be willing to help me out a bit in the beginning even though I plan on picking Gallente?
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other than that idle in TL TS and most vets are willing to offer advice, etc
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
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Lalalaland34483 Posts
#E-uni
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+ Show Spoiler [Algos] + [SNIPEGOS – CHEAP FLEET DRONE SNIPER]
Drone Link Augmentator II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I Alumnel-Wired Sensor Augmentation / Targeting Range Script Alumnel-Wired Sensor Augmentation / Targeting Range Script
Damage Control II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Drone Control Range Augmentator I Small Drone Control Range Augmentator I
The optimal drone combination for damage is:
Hammerhead II x 2 Hobgoblin II x 3
Although I prefer most of the time to use five Hobgoblin IIs plus a flight of Warrior IIs in reserve to throw at fast frigates.
EHP: 6397.0 DPS: 272 with the 2 x HHI + 3 x HGII combo, 219 with HGIIs or 178 with Warrior IIs Speed: 1673m/s Capacitor: stable at 31.6% Optimal range: Targetting to 124.2km, drone range is 114km, although 100km is ideal. Cost: 11m ISK approx.
Do you think it would be fine to aim for this kind of ship to farm some plex via faction warfare early on?
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