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floi
203 Posts
On November 13 2013 01:47 rhiload wrote: @ floi join turn left public channel and say your a TL dude. (since TL is a TL alt corp anyway..) Sorry, what's the name of the channel? Can't find it.. -edit- ok, google helped me :D | ||
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Maxyim
430 Posts
On November 13 2013 02:34 Viceorvirtue wrote: Ok, here's the tldr on the rlm changes: fuck you, train lasers. The rlm caracal will no longer be a viable solo ship and will be worthless in gangs half the time, not to mention any time it needs to swap ammo at all. New options for players are as fallows: Pulse omen, Pulse navy omen, Rail thorax, Rail navy exequer. Long term goal continues to be ishtar if you want to train into that afterwards. Pulse omen/navy omen will probably be the new go to solo/small gang ship used in combination with ishtars. If you are currently stuck without laser skills but can fly a cerb then you can use standard light missile launchers to be semi viable until you cross train. If you have just trained into a caracal and have no other skills I apologize and refer you to the tldr of the rlm changes. Training for T2 pulse lasers puts me 21 days out of the way to Ishtar, training for T2 railguns puts me 20d out of the way. Is it at all viable to go droneboat (Vexor > ?, unlocking Garde IIs first) while waiting for Ishtar / fitting skills to train? If not, why would I want pulse over rail? Looks like rail has a lot more range so may be safer for PvE, pulse seems like it will be more efficient for PvP, am I on the right track? | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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Maxyim
430 Posts
On November 13 2013 05:22 Skilledblob wrote: rails are garbage either way pve or pvp. If you want to do PvE with gallente ships use drones. I want to do PvE only to the extent of experiencing content / having something to do while I am not PvPing. Would like to be able to PvP ASAP. If I have to go 21d out of my way to Ishtar for pulse I will do so, just want to make sure it makes sense. Also I do not care about gallente vs whatever.  | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On November 13 2013 05:38 Maxyim wrote: I want to do PvE only to the extent of experiencing content / having something to do while I am not PvPing. Would like to be able to PvP ASAP. If I have to go 21d out of my way to Ishtar for pulse I will do so, just want to make sure it makes sense. Also I do not care about gallente vs whatever. well how I see it is this, skilling into gunnery skills in the beginning will allow you to participate in pvp and pve content fairly quickly. Drones are imho a flavour of the month weapon system and I dare say the Ishtar is bound to be nerfed sooner rather than later this nerf is probably going to happen through a nerf to sentry drones. So with that said skilling medium and large pulse lasers gives you a very good PvE and PvP weapon system that has great ships in the Omen and its variations to go with it for pvp puposes. and I think lasers are also a stable choice for pve content. | ||
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0m3ga
Serbia322 Posts
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Maxyim
430 Posts
On November 13 2013 05:45 Skilledblob wrote: well how I see it is this, skilling into gunnery skills in the beginning will allow you to participate in pvp and pve content fairly quickly. Drones are imho a flavour of the month weapon system and I dare say the Ishtar is bound to be nerfed sooner rather than later this nerf is probably going to happen through a nerf to sentry drones. So with that said skilling medium and large pulse lasers gives you a very good PvE and PvP weapon system that has great ships in the Omen and its variations to go with it for pvp puposes. and I think lasers are also a stable choice for pve content. Acknowledged, thanks. | ||
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
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Vipsanius
Netherlands708 Posts
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Body_Shield
Canada3368 Posts
On November 13 2013 06:54 Vipsanius wrote: So Malcanis is actually interested in your findings, wonder if this is just for the argument or this actually shows how many data there really is... Kinda thinking Rise actually has no metrics at all, since several people have asked for them, and he hasn't posted anything on it for this entire time. | ||
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jopirg
United States81 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On November 13 2013 07:41 jopirg wrote: Didn't rails just get a big buff? I know they aren't as good as lasers but I thought they were at least usable now. usable yes but not as good or flexible as medium pulse | ||
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
also would anyone like to buy 6.6m minmatar FW LP | ||
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Warri
Germany3208 Posts
On a similar note: dignitas drops its dota2 squad entirely. US scene best scene. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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Omigawa
United States1556 Posts
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0m3ga
Serbia322 Posts
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Galdo
United States338 Posts
You have such bad range with those. | ||
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0m3ga
Serbia322 Posts
On November 13 2013 11:22 Galdo wrote: Isn't focused medium the smaller medium pulse laser? You have such bad range with those. No, it's a smaller version of the heavy pulses. You can't fit heavy pulses due to fitting requierements. | ||
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Galdo
United States338 Posts
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