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Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
November 13 2013 03:34 GMT
#34241
On November 13 2013 11:04 0m3ga wrote:
My ghetto omen, a cheaper version of the famous active kite nomen(requieres cheap genos to fit or a 1% implant.)

+ Show Spoiler +
[Omen, New Setup 1]
Internal Force Field Array I
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Energy Locus Coordinator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator I


Won't the repper cap you out? I used a fit with and 800mm plate instead, with genolutions and some other cap implants it had just enough. o' and I put 1 te instead of triple heat sink, EANM > DCU, plus some t2 rigs worth the price.
:)
Galdo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States338 Posts
November 13 2013 04:02 GMT
#34242
On November 13 2013 12:34 Reborn8u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 11:04 0m3ga wrote:
My ghetto omen, a cheaper version of the famous active kite nomen(requieres cheap genos to fit or a 1% implant.)

+ Show Spoiler +
[Omen, New Setup 1]
Internal Force Field Array I
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Energy Locus Coordinator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator I


Won't the repper cap you out? I used a fit with and 800mm plate instead, with genolutions and some other cap implants it had just enough. o' and I put 1 te instead of triple heat sink, EANM > DCU, plus some t2 rigs worth the price.

Cap injected. Omen has to be cap injected.
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 04:12:35
November 13 2013 04:11 GMT
#34243
On November 13 2013 13:02 Galdo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 13 2013 12:34 Reborn8u wrote:
On November 13 2013 11:04 0m3ga wrote:
My ghetto omen, a cheaper version of the famous active kite nomen(requieres cheap genos to fit or a 1% implant.)

+ Show Spoiler +
[Omen, New Setup 1]
Internal Force Field Array I
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Energy Locus Coordinator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator I


Won't the repper cap you out? I used a fit with and 800mm plate instead, with genolutions and some other cap implants it had just enough. o' and I put 1 te instead of triple heat sink, EANM > DCU, plus some t2 rigs worth the price.

Cap injected. Omen has to be cap injected.


o yea derp, the tank was paper thin with a 800 plate tho iirc.
:)
Galdo
Profile Joined January 2012
United States338 Posts
November 13 2013 04:24 GMT
#34244
Tank back in SB was a single LSE and a DCU.

now THAT is a paper thin tank. I think I got 3shot by a autocannon nado.
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
November 13 2013 05:29 GMT
#34245
Based BBQ used to flex just DCU
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 08:27:03
November 13 2013 08:22 GMT
#34246
it was really questionable before TE nerfs, maybe you can make it work with double t2 locus (I was running triple aux thruster for maximum troll potential, worse than Chessur's posting. however it is pretty funny when you break a stiletto's long point orbit).
?
Maxyim
Profile Joined March 2012
430 Posts
November 13 2013 16:10 GMT
#34247
Guys, why focused medium pulse over heavy pulse? Heavy pulse seems to be the new meta from most or all recent fits I have found.

http://themittani.com/media/solo-pvp-call-wild-omen-navy-issue

https://zkillboard.com/detail/32519741/

Note that this is coming from the perspective of a noob doing research; I have no intention of actually arguing this point with people who are far more experienced than me.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
November 13 2013 16:23 GMT
#34248
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19152 Posts
November 13 2013 16:25 GMT
#34249
On November 14 2013 01:10 Maxyim wrote:
Guys, why focused medium pulse over heavy pulse? Heavy pulse seems to be the new meta from most or all recent fits I have found.

http://themittani.com/media/solo-pvp-call-wild-omen-navy-issue

https://zkillboard.com/detail/32519741/

Note that this is coming from the perspective of a noob doing research; I have no intention of actually arguing this point with people who are far more experienced than me.

nomen vs omen
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Maxyim
Profile Joined March 2012
430 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 16:57:58
November 13 2013 16:45 GMT
#34250
On November 14 2013 01:25 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 01:10 Maxyim wrote:
Guys, why focused medium pulse over heavy pulse? Heavy pulse seems to be the new meta from most or all recent fits I have found.

http://themittani.com/media/solo-pvp-call-wild-omen-navy-issue

https://zkillboard.com/detail/32519741/

Note that this is coming from the perspective of a noob doing research; I have no intention of actually arguing this point with people who are far more experienced than me.

nomen vs omen


Ahh...but what is there any real reason to use omen vs nomen? Cost difference seems minimal.

EDIT - I thought that nomen was available on Market as per EVEMon giving it a base price of 8.1M ISK, now I see that it is a LP store item from Amarr faction. I suppose that makes a bit more sense then... That said, 240,000 is a lot of LP! Will it be 240,000 per ship or does 240,000 get access to purchasing replacements in case of vaporization? This is more and more looking like an "endgame" setup for people who can quickly run level 4-5 missions for the LP...am I correct in this?
Reborn8u
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-13 16:59:58
November 13 2013 16:59 GMT
#34251
On November 14 2013 01:45 Maxyim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 01:25 tofucake wrote:
On November 14 2013 01:10 Maxyim wrote:
Guys, why focused medium pulse over heavy pulse? Heavy pulse seems to be the new meta from most or all recent fits I have found.

http://themittani.com/media/solo-pvp-call-wild-omen-navy-issue

https://zkillboard.com/detail/32519741/

Note that this is coming from the perspective of a noob doing research; I have no intention of actually arguing this point with people who are far more experienced than me.

nomen vs omen


Ahh...but what is there any real reason to use omen vs nomen? Cost difference seems minimal.


For a newish player who will be losing them somewhat frequently, it's better to learn on a ship that costs half as much. Once you get the feel of it and survive some silly fights, then you can begin to use the better version and feel confident. For many new players just keeping up with the FC's orders and managing your modules + heat + drones + plus positioning takes lots of pracitce. It did for me at least. A nomen is a juicy target, and our fits are not tanky. So even a small mistake can mean death. I was a very slow learner when it came to eve, the time I spent learning and flying cheap stuff was well spent.
:)
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
November 13 2013 17:36 GMT
#34252
On November 14 2013 01:45 Maxyim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 01:25 tofucake wrote:
On November 14 2013 01:10 Maxyim wrote:
Guys, why focused medium pulse over heavy pulse? Heavy pulse seems to be the new meta from most or all recent fits I have found.

http://themittani.com/media/solo-pvp-call-wild-omen-navy-issue

https://zkillboard.com/detail/32519741/

Note that this is coming from the perspective of a noob doing research; I have no intention of actually arguing this point with people who are far more experienced than me.

nomen vs omen


Ahh...but what is there any real reason to use omen vs nomen? Cost difference seems minimal.

EDIT - I thought that nomen was available on Market as per EVEMon giving it a base price of 8.1M ISK, now I see that it is a LP store item from Amarr faction. I suppose that makes a bit more sense then... That said, 240,000 is a lot of LP! Will it be 240,000 per ship or does 240,000 get access to purchasing replacements in case of vaporization? This is more and more looking like an "endgame" setup for people who can quickly run level 4-5 missions for the LP...am I correct in this?

LP is not free. You can convert LP to isk, therefore LP = isk. So the 240,000 LP might well be more than 8.1m isk, making it cheaper for you to sell the LP for >8.1m isk and then buy the nomen for 8.1m isk and turn out a profit overall.
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Maxyim
Profile Joined March 2012
430 Posts
November 13 2013 17:41 GMT
#34253
On November 14 2013 02:36 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2013 01:45 Maxyim wrote:
On November 14 2013 01:25 tofucake wrote:
On November 14 2013 01:10 Maxyim wrote:
Guys, why focused medium pulse over heavy pulse? Heavy pulse seems to be the new meta from most or all recent fits I have found.

http://themittani.com/media/solo-pvp-call-wild-omen-navy-issue

https://zkillboard.com/detail/32519741/

Note that this is coming from the perspective of a noob doing research; I have no intention of actually arguing this point with people who are far more experienced than me.

nomen vs omen


Ahh...but what is there any real reason to use omen vs nomen? Cost difference seems minimal.

EDIT - I thought that nomen was available on Market as per EVEMon giving it a base price of 8.1M ISK, now I see that it is a LP store item from Amarr faction. I suppose that makes a bit more sense then... That said, 240,000 is a lot of LP! Will it be 240,000 per ship or does 240,000 get access to purchasing replacements in case of vaporization? This is more and more looking like an "endgame" setup for people who can quickly run level 4-5 missions for the LP...am I correct in this?

LP is not free. You can convert LP to isk, therefore LP = isk. So the 240,000 LP might well be more than 8.1m isk, making it cheaper for you to sell the LP for >8.1m isk and then buy the nomen for 8.1m isk and turn out a profit overall.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only way for nomens to enter the marketplace in the first place is to be bought with LP (unless they are blueprint-able)? I actually do not see any for sale currently in my region and there are buy offers of 45M for them.

In any case I will chill with the vanilla Omen for the nonce...
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34495 Posts
November 13 2013 17:43 GMT
#34254
Generally you want to go to Jita to buy stuff.
Moderator
Vipsanius
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands708 Posts
November 13 2013 17:49 GMT
#34255
Never use the 'base price' from EVEMon for anything.
Zavior
Profile Joined August 2009
Finland753 Posts
November 13 2013 17:49 GMT
#34256
You can use eve-central for quick reference of whereabouts the price is
http://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=17709
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
November 13 2013 21:17 GMT
#34257
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=20462228
Turn Left Hawk roam, bbq goes along in a talwar like a poor
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
0m3ga
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Serbia322 Posts
November 13 2013 21:49 GMT
#34258
Amarr back to tier 3 and probably going down soon, farm OP succes!
Don't you ever gf me back -Chessur
0m3ga
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Serbia322 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-14 03:41:36
November 14 2013 03:41 GMT
#34259
Our brave TL & EvE-o forum battlewarlords, what's our current status against the RLML nerf? Is this a 100% sure thing without turning back? Anyways, be strong; Chessur and Michael keeping the thread bumped errrday
Don't you ever gf me back -Chessur
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
November 14 2013 03:51 GMT
#34260
Based on the fact that Kil2's responses to criticisms came straight from the Twilight Zone, I'd say RLML's are getting guttered no matter what happens.
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