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On July 02 2013 04:31 Omigawa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 04:13 Impervious wrote:On July 02 2013 04:02 Omigawa wrote:
As a two day old player with no previous connections to anyone or anything in EVE... probably Eve University. Fucking terrible idea. You'll walk away dumber. Shield Battery and Hatchery are dead, he's been playing the game for 2 days and doesn't know anyone in EVE from outside the game. Where would you recommend he start? The only groups who recruit 2 day old players who don't know anything about the game are nullsec blocs and E-Uni, oh and mining corps. What would you recommend?
This discussion has happened very recently.
RvB and Agony both take fresh meat and are both real PvP corps.
Telling someone to join EUNI is like suggesting that the new neighbor try out scientology if their church is closed for construction.
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On July 02 2013 05:09 DefMatrixUltra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 04:31 Omigawa wrote:On July 02 2013 04:13 Impervious wrote:On July 02 2013 04:02 Omigawa wrote:
As a two day old player with no previous connections to anyone or anything in EVE... probably Eve University. Fucking terrible idea. You'll walk away dumber. Shield Battery and Hatchery are dead, he's been playing the game for 2 days and doesn't know anyone in EVE from outside the game. Where would you recommend he start? The only groups who recruit 2 day old players who don't know anything about the game are nullsec blocs and E-Uni, oh and mining corps. What would you recommend? This discussion has happened very recently. RvB and Agony both take fresh meat and are both real PvP corps. Telling someone to join EUNI is like suggesting that the new neighbor try out scientology if their church is closed for construction.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying EUNI is optimal. I wasn't aware Agony was accepting 2 day old characters and afaik RvB utilizes the same sort of blob warfare that all the nullsec alliances get so much shit for in this thread.
Impervious had a good suggestion though, disregard what I said and try to find an active FW corp that recruits new players.
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United States7481 Posts
I actually was about to recommend agony but I went to their forums and it says they aren't recruiting for non-autz.
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On July 02 2013 05:23 Omigawa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 05:09 DefMatrixUltra wrote:On July 02 2013 04:31 Omigawa wrote:On July 02 2013 04:13 Impervious wrote:On July 02 2013 04:02 Omigawa wrote:
As a two day old player with no previous connections to anyone or anything in EVE... probably Eve University. Fucking terrible idea. You'll walk away dumber. Shield Battery and Hatchery are dead, he's been playing the game for 2 days and doesn't know anyone in EVE from outside the game. Where would you recommend he start? The only groups who recruit 2 day old players who don't know anything about the game are nullsec blocs and E-Uni, oh and mining corps. What would you recommend? This discussion has happened very recently. RvB and Agony both take fresh meat and are both real PvP corps. Telling someone to join EUNI is like suggesting that the new neighbor try out scientology if their church is closed for construction. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying EUNI is optimal. I wasn't aware Agony was accepting 2 day old characters and afaik RvB utilizes the same sort of blob warfare that all the nullsec alliances get so much shit for in this thread. Impervious had a good suggestion though, disregard what I said and try to find an active FW corp that recruits new players.
Any FW corp is fine. Just hang in the coms that they all use, and join into fleets from some of the active corps within the militia, they often recruit anyone in their militia to join their fleets and hang out on coms with them, you can learn a lot as a beginner this way.
EDIT - RvB is a way to find fights really quickly allowing you to practice the skills you learn elsewhere, but the environment is not friendly to teaching. And I knew agony wasn't recruiting right now, otherwise I would have suggested them.
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Not really. The alliance that got disbanded are renter corps so no harm done to the military aspect except war fund. The Isk that was stolen is a lot less than what goons claimed.
There is quite a financial damage done for sure but it also motivate Nulli a lot more to go kill goons.
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On July 02 2013 05:23 Omigawa wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 05:09 DefMatrixUltra wrote:On July 02 2013 04:31 Omigawa wrote:On July 02 2013 04:13 Impervious wrote:On July 02 2013 04:02 Omigawa wrote:
As a two day old player with no previous connections to anyone or anything in EVE... probably Eve University. Fucking terrible idea. You'll walk away dumber. Shield Battery and Hatchery are dead, he's been playing the game for 2 days and doesn't know anyone in EVE from outside the game. Where would you recommend he start? The only groups who recruit 2 day old players who don't know anything about the game are nullsec blocs and E-Uni, oh and mining corps. What would you recommend? This discussion has happened very recently. RvB and Agony both take fresh meat and are both real PvP corps. Telling someone to join EUNI is like suggesting that the new neighbor try out scientology if their church is closed for construction. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying EUNI is optimal. I wasn't aware Agony was accepting 2 day old characters and afaik RvB utilizes the same sort of blob warfare that all the nullsec alliances get so much shit for in this thread. Impervious had a good suggestion though, disregard what I said and try to find an active FW corp that recruits new players.
RVB, in terms of flying, does very similar things to EUNI, but in terms of management and learning are worlds better than EUNI. RVB teaches people about the mechanics of piloting whereas EUNI teaches people how to properly submit to authority. They could hardly be more different in terms of their effect on individuals.
I'm not current on the state of FW corps, but if Impervious is recommending it then it's worth looking into.
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On July 02 2013 05:45 Veldril wrote:Not really. The alliance that got disbanded are renter corps so no harm done to the military aspect except war fund. The Isk that was stolen is a lot less than what goons claimed. There is quite a financial damage done for sure but it also motivate Nulli a lot more to go kill goons.
I dunno where the shit you get your intel, but from that article (11:04:54 AM) xttz: also he jacked 400b is the same number the S2N guy I spoke to brought up, before that article was even published. In the grand scheme of things is it a catastrophe? Not really, but it is a pretty heavy blow, the heap of shit it creates that now needs to be shovelled out the way is pretty big.
Goons are really rolling through their bag of tricks which is always amusing to watch 
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On July 02 2013 07:25 hagon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 05:45 Veldril wrote:Not really. The alliance that got disbanded are renter corps so no harm done to the military aspect except war fund. The Isk that was stolen is a lot less than what goons claimed. There is quite a financial damage done for sure but it also motivate Nulli a lot more to go kill goons. I dunno where the shit you get your intel, but from that article (11:04:54 AM) xttz: also he jacked 400b is the same number the S2N guy I spoke to brought up, before that article was even published. In the grand scheme of things is it a catastrophe? Not really, but it is a pretty heavy blow, the heap of shit it creates that now needs to be shovelled out the way is pretty big. Goons are really rolling through their bag of tricks which is always amusing to watch
I got my intel from Nulli because I am a Nulli member with access to Nulli forum that Nulli upper level posts and discuss about the situation? I don't know where you got yor intel but I am pretty sure that goon side gonna spin to win.
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On July 02 2013 07:25 hagon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 05:45 Veldril wrote:Not really. The alliance that got disbanded are renter corps so no harm done to the military aspect except war fund. The Isk that was stolen is a lot less than what goons claimed. There is quite a financial damage done for sure but it also motivate Nulli a lot more to go kill goons. I dunno where the shit you get your intel, but from that article (11:04:54 AM) xttz: also he jacked 400b is the same number the S2N guy I spoke to brought up, before that article was even published. In the grand scheme of things is it a catastrophe? Not really, but it is a pretty heavy blow, the heap of shit it creates that now needs to be shovelled out the way is pretty big. Goons are really rolling through their bag of tricks which is always amusing to watch
400b is fucking nothing for alliance wallets. Sure it sounds like a big number to the grunts in goonswarm which are now fistbumping and spewing their "u mad pubbie?" in every relevant and non relevant thread, but come on, you should now better when you frequent TL. The money is not gonna hurt, unlike having to regrind(?) all their systems now before they can go out to war again.
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On July 02 2013 07:21 DefMatrixUltra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 05:23 Omigawa wrote:On July 02 2013 05:09 DefMatrixUltra wrote:On July 02 2013 04:31 Omigawa wrote:On July 02 2013 04:13 Impervious wrote:On July 02 2013 04:02 Omigawa wrote:
As a two day old player with no previous connections to anyone or anything in EVE... probably Eve University. Fucking terrible idea. You'll walk away dumber. Shield Battery and Hatchery are dead, he's been playing the game for 2 days and doesn't know anyone in EVE from outside the game. Where would you recommend he start? The only groups who recruit 2 day old players who don't know anything about the game are nullsec blocs and E-Uni, oh and mining corps. What would you recommend? This discussion has happened very recently. RvB and Agony both take fresh meat and are both real PvP corps. Telling someone to join EUNI is like suggesting that the new neighbor try out scientology if their church is closed for construction. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying EUNI is optimal. I wasn't aware Agony was accepting 2 day old characters and afaik RvB utilizes the same sort of blob warfare that all the nullsec alliances get so much shit for in this thread. Impervious had a good suggestion though, disregard what I said and try to find an active FW corp that recruits new players. RVB, in terms of flying, does very similar things to EUNI, but in terms of management and learning are worlds better than EUNI. RVB teaches people about the mechanics of piloting whereas EUNI teaches people how to properly submit to authority. They could hardly be more different in terms of their effect on individuals. I'm not current on the state of FW corps, but if Impervious is recommending it then it's worth looking into.
RvB is not a great way to learn though, they aren't particularly helpful with that. It is a great way to get large amounts of fights in a short period of time in order to practice the knowledge and skills you obtain elsewhere though. It is especially useful because they will honour arranged 1v1's, and they do not use midslot ECM.
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Obviously the isk is a small issue, I was just confused by someone in Nulli saying it was an inaccurate number when that is the exact number Jean Leaner put in Jabberlon5. And while NC. PL and N3 grind away in the east I don't feel Goons have that much to actually be smug about as they will have just the same job to do in Fountain apart from with many fewer supers and a huge ticking clock, the only people this is good for is TEST who get the week off.
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On July 02 2013 08:57 hagon wrote:
Obviously the isk is a small issue, I was just confused by someone in Nulli saying it was an inaccurate number when that is the exact number Jean Leaner put in Jabberlon5. And while NC. PL and N3 grind away in the east I don't feel Goons have that much to actually be smug about as they will have just the same job to do in Fountain apart from with many fewer supers and a huge ticking clock, the only people this is good for is TEST who get the week off.
It's not accurate because there's no accurate number out yet. The isk stolen announced in Jabber is supposed to be around 250-400 billion isk, which is the rent fare from all the rentee in those sov. But other source in the coalition said the amount is less than 400 billion.
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The money isn't the issue, Nulli will have to re-grind all that sov... unless they really, actually "didn't want that sov anyways". With Nulli helping to prop up TEST the implications for the Fountain war are huge. It's also a little funny with Nulli proclaiming VFK by fall.
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On July 02 2013 10:35 Omigawa wrote:
The money isn't the issue, Nulli will have to re-grind all that sov... unless they really, actually "didn't want that sov anyways". With Nulli helping to prop up TEST the implications for the Fountain war are huge. It's also a little funny with Nulli proclaiming VFK by fall.
Yeah that's gonna be painful to grind back. At lest PL is being a big help now. We already recaptured the stations that re lost an our cap fleet is working day and night.
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Well I tried to go and solo in Karan.... and things went very poorly.
1 Malediction
2 Crusaders
2 Slicers
All down. Most of the losses were due to a sudden linked overdrived scam inty shutting me down so quickly, and then jams / neuts and the blob seconds later.
Another was lost due to about 2 dozen nados and a vigil + rapier friend. Dem TP's
The sad thing is, I only had a handful of kills. I had the oppertunity to kill much more, but with vagas / curses / canes dropping out of warp the second i try and go in- I didn't get many kills. Also If i may note- its nearly impossible ot get these guys off the station. They will not come to the sun, or a belt.
Honestly its been pretty aggravating, and I am really hesitant about flying solo in here. They have the link advantage (I can't turn mine on for a long period due to small system + combats everwhere) They also have the super blob mentality, coupled with retarded fast hard tackle and I am basically fucked. Unless I get in an oracle with simple on grid blaps.
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The 'retarded fast hard tackle' are your targets. Stop flying bad brawler fragile ships when you are outnumbered and outgunned (and a single scram = death). Why are you not flying a caracal, basically.
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United States43964 Posts
I never had my links probed down. Moved them about every 10 minutes. Vs the linked bullshit inties I had some success with a nosprey, dual web TP fit. It's fast enough to isolate them and gank them if they fuck up.
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United States43964 Posts
Goblin's latest suggestion, the game should prevent people from playing it in order to stop them from stopping playing the game.
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Now I have a humble suggestion to CCP that would greatly increase its customer retention: since most losses are connected to ships blowing up, the hurting losses could be removed from the game by demanding players to have 2x more liquid cash than their ship's worth (hull+fit+cargo). If you have a 100M ship, you must have 200M cash in your wallet to undock. If you are already outside but don't have the money, you can't use offensive modules on it, so you can move it, but can't use it.
dis fuckin guy
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