Tonight's battle report before I got disconnected:
http://shieldbattery.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=18391283

Below is the highlight of local chatlog after Serg pretty much soloed a Catalyst in a Velator (back up arrived when it was over). Note that Serg had to burn about 50+km to catch the Catalyst.
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[05:07:09] Kaya Kamini > now why the fuck
[05:07:12] Kaya Kamini > couldnt i track you
[05:07:24] Gray Arachnid > Cuz he has snakes and links
[05:07:24] Rengas > because i td'd you
[05:07:29] Kaya Kamini > oh fuck you Dx
[05:07:38] Rengas > jk i dont have TD
[05:07:56] Kaya Kamini > then wtf
[05:08:18] Rengas > i think maybe because he was in a superior ship
[05:08:24] Kaya Kamini > javelin tracks everything
[05:08:39] Rengas > ah
[05:08:40] Rengas > rails
[05:08:43] Splatter Girl > newbship is better
[05:08:46] Splatter Girl > than catalyst
[05:09:16] Kaya Kamini > does a noobship have a smaller sig than everything else
[05:09:17] Kaya Kamini > lol
[05:10:33] Rengas > Velator
[05:12:18] Rengas > 54 m sig radius
[05:12:39] Gray Arachnid > PFFT
[05:12:41] Kaya Kamini > wtf
[05:12:43] Gray Arachnid > MY ATRON IS SMALLER
[05:12:45] Kaya Kamini > ive tracked shit with smaller sig
[05:12:49] Kaya Kamini > like an atron
[05:12:59] Rengas > you should go track gray arachnid
[05:13:05] Kaya Kamini > ive tracked an atron at 1km with javelin
[05:13:08] Kaya Kamini > grrrr
[05:13:12] Kaya Kamini > fuck this game
[05:13:31] Splatter Girl > dont be mad bro, the better pilot always wins, right?
[05:13:35] Rengas > well to be fair ccp did buff noobships a lot
[05:13:54] Splatter Girl > velators are pretty powerful warboats
[05:13:58] Splatter Girl > dont feel bad
[05:14:28] Kaya Kamini > i normally fuck frigs with that thing
[05:14:30] Kaya Kamini > in groups too
[05:14:34] Kaya Kamini > and it fukcing dies to a velator
[05:14:35] BBQ FTW > DAMNNNNNNNNNN
[05:14:46] Gray Arachnid > Kaya Kamini, whatis it?
[05:14:57] Gray Arachnid > Kaya Kamini, and btw these guys cheat! SNAKES AND LINKS
[05:14:59] Gray Arachnid > 3B SNAKES
[05:15:02] BBQ FTW > LOL
[05:15:09] Park3r Kalkoken > Kaya Kamini, give me all your isk when you rage quit
[05:15:11] Lily C > haha

http://shieldbattery.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=18391283

KwarK

United States44389 Posts

June 24 2013 10:21 GMT

#31446

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=251849&find=unread

Nyvis

France284 Posts

June 24 2013 12:41 GMT

#31447

On June 23 2013 13:42 Viceorvirtue wrote:
Worth it given what context? If you're expecting to make a bunch of isk off data and relic sites with barely any skills you'll be very dissappointed. The exploration changes have made the profession much more reliant on having lvl 4-5 hacking/archaeology for the sites in low and null, while at the same time massively devalueing the loot you get in 90% of things. Not having decent skills will result in no loot whatsoever asyou wont be able to complete the minigame.

If you know what you're doing you can make it work, but as a new player loking for solid income I would suggest something like faction war button orbiting or even level 4 missions compared to data/relic site farming. For ded plexs you probably wont have the ability to hop into a drake or whatever to be able to run the sites, and even then those are quite rare.

I'd go for tag farming if you can be on around DT. It's simple, it's easy, you can do it in pretty much anything (you just have to kill a cruiser NPC), and it gets you used to lowsec.

Skilledblob

Germany3392 Posts

June 24 2013 13:52 GMT

#31448

pretty much anything is kinda wrong. A noob wont be able to kill the stronger clone soldiers because they tank pretty good

Sermokala

United States14211 Posts

June 24 2013 13:56 GMT

#31449

How does this "tag farming" work out exactly?

Do I need advanced skills to "tag farm"?

tofucake

Hyrule19264 Posts

June 24 2013 13:59 GMT

#31450

you go kill a cruiser at a belt and loot a tag from it, then sell it in jita for 150m

KwarK

United States44389 Posts

June 24 2013 21:06 GMT

#31451

We might have to buy this.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=250851&find=unread

tofucake

Hyrule19264 Posts

June 24 2013 21:51 GMT

#31452

We owe it to the man.

Warri

Germany3208 Posts

June 24 2013 21:55 GMT

#31453

Johnny you dont happen to have your old FW sheet with all the items?

tofucake

Hyrule19264 Posts

June 24 2013 23:23 GMT

#31454

just opened it

This item is in the owner's trash.

Johnny Business

Sweden1251 Posts

June 24 2013 23:44 GMT

#31455

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0An-wRWu61yrKdHRack5MN1VVRTBTaWJOcUJ6V2FINkE#gid=0

Nyvis

France284 Posts

June 24 2013 23:59 GMT

#31456

On June 24 2013 22:52 Skilledblob wrote:
pretty much anything is kinda wrong. A noob wont be able to kill the stronger clone soldiers because they tank pretty good

I can do it with 300dps in bomber, and a cruiser can get more dps.

How does this "tag farming" work out exactly?

Do I need advanced skills to "tag farm"?

Special NPCs sometimes appear in lowsec, with "clone soldier" in their name. They always drop a tag, and tags are worth a lot of isk, especially for the ones from 0.1 and 0.2 (the others are pretty bad). You just need to warp from belt to belt until you find one of those NPCs and kill it. They have a pretty decent tank, and you need more than 300 dps for the harder (in 0.1).