EPT280b for adrestias
360b for frekis
50b for mimir
180b for malices
325b for vangels
80b for guardian vexor
80b for utu
total 1.355t
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KwarK
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280b for adrestias 360b for frekis 50b for mimir 180b for malices 325b for vangels 80b for guardian vexor 80b for utu total 1.355t https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=158938 | ||
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my alaskan salmon rocks harder than any other | ||
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Ramiel
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On June 26 2013 21:10 Mandini wrote: I still cant hear you from my mackriel. On June 26 2013 21:13 tofucake wrote: lol mackriel my alaskan salmon rocks harder than any other What a low blow... such a low blow. Notice- i said nothing about the fish boat, only the med autos really suck. | ||
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This is a good alternative to autocannons in general: http://i.imgur.com/aTz7B81.png Not great but better than the old cane, which was pretty decent. | ||
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Shootemup.
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On June 26 2013 21:40 Firebolt145 wrote: Why would you fly med autos when you can fly med lasers When you look at med lasers vs. med autos in a vacuum , of course lasers look better. However, you also have to look at the ships that you fit those weapons to. An autocannon Cynabal will do less dps than a Zealot in most situations, but the Cynabal has a medium neut, a point, a drone bay, I am pretty sure (don't quote me on this because I don't have EFT on this computer) that the Cynabal is more tanky, and is faster. There are too many things that are different between laser and autocannon boats to say that autos are completely useless. | ||
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DiracMonopole
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On June 27 2013 01:12 Shootemup. wrote: When you look at med lasers vs. med autos in a vacuum , of course lasers look better. However, you also have to look at the ships that you fit those weapons to. An autocannon Cynabal will do less dps than a Zealot in most situations, but the Cynabal has a medium neut, a point, a drone bay, I am pretty sure (don't quote me on this because I don't have EFT on this computer) that the Cynabal is more tanky, and is faster. There are too many things that are different between laser and autocannon boats to say that autos are completely useless. On all medium non-angel ships, lasers will do more damage than autocannons at point range. (for large ships, i think its linked point range, and for small ships, i think its scram range). This includes things like canes with double damage bonus to lasers. | ||
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DefMatrixUltra
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The Cynabal is a ship with stats and capabilities way beyond what other ships can emulate. That doesn't make autocannons good. If you ever use a Cynabal with autocannons, you're using a Cynabal despite that it has autocannons. I agree in general that the platform is more important than the weapon system, but there aren't any medium autocannon platforms that are good at nano - the Cynabal is the only one that ever has been, and its capability has been cut down with the TE nerf. | ||
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Shootemup.
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On June 27 2013 02:42 DefMatrixUltra wrote: I'd say the only reason you could ever use medium autos is to put them on a Cynabal since CCP ruined the cane and the other platforms are very niche. The Cynabal is a ship with stats and capabilities way beyond what other ships can emulate. That doesn't make autocannons good. If you ever use a Cynabal with autocannons, you're using a Cynabal despite that it has autocannons. I agree in general that the platform is more important than the weapon system, but there aren't any medium autocannon platforms that are good at nano - the Cynabal is the only one that ever has been, and its capability has been cut down with the TE nerf. Yes, ideally you would fly a Cynabal with bonused medium lasers instead of bonused medium autocannons. My statement was aimed mostly at Firebolt saying "why use autos when you can use lasers", which is a rather simplistic way of looking at things. | ||
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