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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44247 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-25 19:33:36
June 25 2013 19:33 GMT
#31461
With the prices listed here my AT ship collection was worth
280b for adrestias
360b for frekis
50b for mimir
180b for malices
325b for vangels
80b for guardian vexor
80b for utu

total 1.355t

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=158938
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44247 Posts
June 25 2013 20:05 GMT
#31462
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3260197&#post3260197
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19237 Posts
June 25 2013 20:31 GMT
#31463
But what was the character?
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44247 Posts
June 25 2013 20:39 GMT
#31464
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Echo_Eleven
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19237 Posts
June 25 2013 20:58 GMT
#31465
ew
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419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
June 26 2013 00:09 GMT
#31466
that is an impressively badly trained character
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TomatoShark
Profile Joined August 2011
United States288 Posts
June 26 2013 03:06 GMT
#31467
so is the navy c ane even worth a fuck since its just pre nerf cane?=/
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
June 26 2013 03:13 GMT
#31468
as def says, the proper way to fit a navy cane is to buy a cynabal.
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Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
June 26 2013 04:00 GMT
#31469
Navy cane does 189 DPS at 27K So you tell me, worth it? Cynabal is hardly better with a paltry 235. Autocannons, have met thy maker post TE patch.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
June 26 2013 12:10 GMT
#31470
I still cant hear you from my mackriel.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19237 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 12:14:05
June 26 2013 12:13 GMT
#31471
lol mackriel

my alaskan salmon rocks harder than any other
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Ramiel
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1220 Posts
June 26 2013 12:36 GMT
#31472
On June 26 2013 21:10 Mandini wrote:
I still cant hear you from my mackriel.


On June 26 2013 21:13 tofucake wrote:
lol mackriel

my alaskan salmon rocks harder than any other


What a low blow... such a low blow. Notice- i said nothing about the fish boat, only the med autos really suck.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
June 26 2013 12:40 GMT
#31473
Why would you fly med autos when you can fly med lasers
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DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
June 26 2013 16:01 GMT
#31474
http://i.imgur.com/F5LF7Jm.png

This is a good alternative to autocannons in general: http://i.imgur.com/aTz7B81.png

Not great but better than the old cane, which was pretty decent.
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
June 26 2013 16:12 GMT
#31475
On June 26 2013 21:40 Firebolt145 wrote:
Why would you fly med autos when you can fly med lasers

When you look at med lasers vs. med autos in a vacuum , of course lasers look better. However, you also have to look at the ships that you fit those weapons to. An autocannon Cynabal will do less dps than a Zealot in most situations, but the Cynabal has a medium neut, a point, a drone bay, I am pretty sure (don't quote me on this because I don't have EFT on this computer) that the Cynabal is more tanky, and is faster. There are too many things that are different between laser and autocannon boats to say that autos are completely useless.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
June 26 2013 17:29 GMT
#31476
On June 27 2013 01:12 Shootemup. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 26 2013 21:40 Firebolt145 wrote:
Why would you fly med autos when you can fly med lasers

When you look at med lasers vs. med autos in a vacuum , of course lasers look better. However, you also have to look at the ships that you fit those weapons to. An autocannon Cynabal will do less dps than a Zealot in most situations, but the Cynabal has a medium neut, a point, a drone bay, I am pretty sure (don't quote me on this because I don't have EFT on this computer) that the Cynabal is more tanky, and is faster. There are too many things that are different between laser and autocannon boats to say that autos are completely useless.


On all medium non-angel ships, lasers will do more damage than autocannons at point range. (for large ships, i think its linked point range, and for small ships, i think its scram range). This includes things like canes with double damage bonus to lasers.
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
June 26 2013 17:42 GMT
#31477
I'd say the only reason you could ever use medium autos is to put them on a Cynabal since CCP ruined the cane and the other platforms are very niche.

The Cynabal is a ship with stats and capabilities way beyond what other ships can emulate. That doesn't make autocannons good. If you ever use a Cynabal with autocannons, you're using a Cynabal despite that it has autocannons.

I agree in general that the platform is more important than the weapon system, but there aren't any medium autocannon platforms that are good at nano - the Cynabal is the only one that ever has been, and its capability has been cut down with the TE nerf.
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-26 19:05:08
June 26 2013 19:04 GMT
#31478
On June 27 2013 02:42 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
I'd say the only reason you could ever use medium autos is to put them on a Cynabal since CCP ruined the cane and the other platforms are very niche.

The Cynabal is a ship with stats and capabilities way beyond what other ships can emulate. That doesn't make autocannons good. If you ever use a Cynabal with autocannons, you're using a Cynabal despite that it has autocannons.

I agree in general that the platform is more important than the weapon system, but there aren't any medium autocannon platforms that are good at nano - the Cynabal is the only one that ever has been, and its capability has been cut down with the TE nerf.

Yes, ideally you would fly a Cynabal with bonused medium lasers instead of bonused medium autocannons. My statement was aimed mostly at Firebolt saying "why use autos when you can use lasers", which is a rather simplistic way of looking at things.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-27 03:28:33
June 27 2013 03:28 GMT
#31479
I'd argue that HPL ships without an optimal bonus aren't in a great spot either, though not nearly as bad as the medium AC line.
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DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
June 27 2013 04:44 GMT
#31480
Harbinger is a good example of that.
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