EVE Corporation - Page 152

The way attributes work is you get an entirely linear amount for every point. That means that if you have 27 weeks of perception skills and 25 weeks of intelligence skills you should still put every point into perception and that'll save you time overall. You get twice the bonus for primary skills as secondary so the secondaries (mem/wp) shouldn't be given any points in the first year because putting points in the other main primary will be twice as effective. For most players (going ships+guns) the optimal for the first year will be maxed perception with the rest in intelligence (support skills) and then for every subsequent year maxed perception and the rest in willpower.

Corporation Management: Memory / Charisma (7,424,000)
(Skills for leading your own corporation.)

Drones: Memory / Perception (23,552,000)
(Combat skills which allow you to use unmanned combat drones.)

Electronics: Intelligence / Memory (18,176,000)
(Skills for targeting and electronic warfare.)

Engineering: Intelligence / Memory (15,616,000)
(Skills for improving your shields and your power output.)

Gunnery: Perception / Willpower (45,568,000)
(Combat skills, allow you to use more turret-style weapons and to deal more damage.)

Industry: Memory / Intelligence (26,624,000)
(Skills for production and mining.)

Leadership: Charisma / Willpower (15,872,000)
(Fleet skills, give small bonuses to your ships when in a fleet.)

Learning: Memory / Intelligence (5,376,000)
(Skills which make you train all skills faster.)

Mechanic: Intelligence / Memory (35,072,000)
(Skills for improving your armor, advanced production skills, and advance ship outfitting skills.)

Missile Launcher Operation: Perception / Willpower (24,064,000)
(Skills for using and increasing damage from all types of missiles.)

Navigation: Intelligence / Perception (9,728,000)
(Skills to make you go faster, jump farther, and use less power/fuel.)

Science: Intelligence / Memory (68,352,000)
(Skills for research and advanced production.)

Social: Charisma / Intelligence (5,376,000)
(Skills to improve mission rewards, and decrease market fees.)

Subsystems: Intelligence / Perception (5,120,000)
(Skills to use highly-advanced ships.)

Trade: Charisma / Memory (8,960,000)
(Skills affecting your ability to place market orders and contracts, and to decrease market fees.)

Perception/Int is a semi-middle of the road remap. I would personally advise going mem/int to grab the key electronic, engineering, and rigging skills, than remap to perception/willpower to grab all the dps/ship flying skills.

As Yulwei pointed out already, caldari are horrible in any fleet that relies on instant dps, speed or armortanking. While this rules out a lot of really sexy fleet concepts (RR BS, Armorhacs, Sniperhacs, Nanogangs) drakes are simply put the best BC in terms of tank/dps/range ratio. If you build a fleet around them (see my posts on darkside-style) they are insane.

However, yes, they suck in almost any other fleet concept.




PvP if reduced to the absolute minimum means that their stuff which does damage has to die quicker than your stuff which does damage. In my evelife I've never seen a real stalemate happen, especially since people usually use different fleettypes to counter. You dont run RR BS into RR BS, you run Armorhacs into them. VS overwhelming logistics the only possible thing in some cases are to maneuver around in a way which splits the hostile fleet good enough so their logi cant keep up or to rely on the mighty beast called ALPHA STRRRRRIKEYARRR.




Welp. For a T1 frigate, yes, the rifter is cost efficient. However most people won't stay in them for long. Which ship you want is entirely situational. Minnie has the best logistics for almost any shieldtanked gang. Amarr the best for almost any armortanked gang. With the current state of the game gallente/caldari logistics fill niches.

However, in my opinion for the gangs we used to do most I'd say gallente is the worst race and minmatar the best. "Best" and "worst" not only in terms of actual ships but especially in terms of what the racial cruiser V enables you to do. Since I expect for the hatchery that at one point either a) people will split off to "more pvp oriented corps" or b) some people from TL will start something to make the more bloodthirsty people happy I totally keep that recommendation up, small scale pvp hasn't changed that much.

Shieldtanked BCs are a very, very good short-term goal for any PvPer. Midterm should be non-caldari Hacs/Recons. Longterm should be crosstrain, even before Battleships. (Assuming you don't want to mission or anything.) ... Battleships are simply not the way to go for small scale stuff in 0.0 at this point in time. They are great to have in your hangar for defensive purposes but that's about it.




Wrong. Good interceptor pilots do their job and survive in 50 vs 50 fights. The major problem is that most interceptor pilots think of them self as being suicide tacklers and therefor they die like one. If you maneuver it right and don't have a retarded FC sending you off like flies interceptors are damn survivable.

On the scouting thing: I wanted to write a guide for scouting a long time ago, maybe I'll take the time for it now that I don't play anything at the moment, but here are the cliffnotes: Scouts are important in ANY fleet. Also their job can't be called boring at all.

Also those are the only two people who are allowed to talk on coms on a regular basis. Personally, if I don't FC and don't want to just sit back and relax I enjoy scouting the most.

Also, how the fuck can jumping into a hostile fleet and having to get as much information as possible to your FC before having to GTFO without dieing to 50 dudes be boring? You've got 30 seconds in which the FC has to decide based of your information what to do. And yes, saying "Ohmyfuckinggod theres quite some dudes here" just wasted 5 seconds of that time.

Being the scout is one of the most exciting things you can be in a fleet, srsly.

Hahahaha.

"WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU SRSLY WTF"
"you sent me here 10 minutes ago..."
"oh. sorry, forgot about you."

Happens every damn time I'm like "Okay, I need some people who can scout surrounding systems" :D



Also:


Shush. The more people who know how to scout the less likely someone has to do it all the time. But, yeah, it's horrible if you as the FC have to backseat your scout. Those scouts usually die the first time they see an enemy ship though since they just suicide onto it and complain that the fleet wasn't close enough afterwards. This behaviour usually leads to famous quotes like:


Mukk: "Hey, revo, what are you in?"
Me: "Erhh... hurricane."
Mukk: "k, you scout."

or

Me: "Umm... I need a new scout, fuck this."
Mukk: "I can do it."
Me: "k, go ahead."
[...]
Me: "Why is this taking so long?"
Mukk: "I'm in a tempest."
Me: "Oh, np, take ur time."


I miss that sometimes, really. Also I really wonder if there's an answer to the "What are you in?"-question that would keep me out of trouble. Scimitar might work. Might tell me to go ahead and refit a point in the next station tho. >_<