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Russian Federation3631 Posts
On April 13 2013 04:54 KwarK wrote:
New domi.
6 mega pulse laser 2/scorch
mwd, cap booster, invuln, LSEx2
dcu, nano x2, drone damage x2, HS, TE.
P sure what fozzie intended with the change.
pretty sick tbh, what drone set would you load with that though? sentries are out because of MWDing around, and ogres are like 1k m/s. Not sure how fast berserkers are.
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On April 13 2013 05:15 KwarK wrote:
It will be interesting to look into the cap stability of the new apoc with its improved cap and the lower cap use on guns. It now has superior lock range to an oracle, an innate 37.5% bonus to tracking speed and optimal which is pretty fucking incredible and 7 lows with no need for a TE. If we can make it viable using a CPR rather than a heavy cap booster then you can go
TE , DCU, 2x HS, 2x nano, CPR
mwd, invuln, point, XL ASB
8 mega pulse laser2
3x extender
5 ec 600s, 5 warrior2s
I'm certainly interested in finding out the numbers. Those bonuses are built for scorch, it's a pity that the oracle has a 25% damage bonus on 8 guns which is just retarded but after the TE nerf the apoc may be better.
I wouldn't get too excited about the cap change to the Apoc. If you open a blank one in Pyfa, with all 5 skills it will read as gaining 27.1 GJ/s (can't be bothered to confirm 100% atm, but I'm pretty sure that's peak recharge). With the new numbers, it will read 27.9 GJ/s.
With 8 Mega Pulses, a MWD, and an Invuln, Pyfa currently clocks this ship as 1m59 cap. With the new version (same exact modules), even with buffed gun cap usage, it's going to read probably less than 2m10 cap (doing some rough figures). If this was a cruiser or BC, it'd be more meaningful. The problem is this is a battleship using a 100MN MWD so losing max capacitor is a deal-breaker. The ship is going to have practically the same cap stability but be much weaker to neuting. I honestly don't know why they changed the cap this way in the first place.
Anyway, the new cap is nothing to get excited about.
/edit - Need to clarify this a bit.
If you put something like arties on the Apoc, the buff to cap stability is gonna be quite substantial. There are 3 concerns with the cap of any ship. Peak recharge, average cap usage, and total cap.
If average cap usage >> peak recharge, the only number that really matters is total cap.
If average cap usage <= peak recharge, the only number that really matters is peak recharge (total cap becomes fairly irrelevant).
The problem with 100MN MWDs is they skyrocket the average cap usage number to a point where most battleships using them have an average cap usage more than twice the peak recharge. This makes it so that total cap is more important for longevity than recharge is, and it's the main reason that most battleships need a cap booster just to operate normally.
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On April 13 2013 04:50 DefMatrixUltra wrote:No way that's real...
Lack of the blue DEV flag on the portrait tells me someone's set up an awesome joke.
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Uh, there is a dev tag on the post
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On April 13 2013 09:22 Lysenko wrote:Lack of the blue DEV flag on the portrait tells me someone's set up an awesome joke.
OMFG YES! I'm gonna be in an oracle soon(tm), after finishing my drake train only to have it neutered, then doing a hurricane train, only to have it neutered as well. Finally something I train won't be shit by the time I finish the damn train. Although the nerfs to TE and T3 BC's still make me want to kill someone. I'm starting to think I can predict what is going to be nerfed simply by training towards it for 2 months.
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On April 13 2013 09:25 Body_Shield wrote:
Uh, there is a dev tag on the post
Weird, all those CCP Alliance posts do not have a blue tag on my screen.
Oh well, theory blown
Edit:
For example:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nEHHpHd.jpg)
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
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NAH M8
They thought it was cool and said good job. I guess they don't pay much attention.
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Those who run over 50 orders, how do you prefer to update your orders? From quick panel, wallet or maybe you use mentat?
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Sorry monkey, I wont be able to make it tonight
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On April 13 2013 21:29 Ryndika wrote:
Those who run over 50 orders, how do you prefer to update your orders? From quick panel, wallet or maybe you use mentat?
I use Elinor to speed up trading, you can get the latest version here.
Edit: I add everything I trade to the market quickbar and just run through that with Elinor, but I only do that once every week or two because I'm lazy and don't really need the money right now. If you're in Jita .01 ISKing mentat may be a better idea if you can get the fucker to work.
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So, I'm aware it's not too much but seeing as the SB LP exchange seems to have died to some extend, I'm looking to trade ~750K LP for 625M, seems like a pretty good deal 
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On April 14 2013 04:10 Nub4ever wrote:So, I'm aware it's not too much but seeing as the SB LP exchange seems to have died to some extend, I'm looking to trade ~750K LP for 625M, seems like a pretty good deal
It's not bad, but you can get better if you want to put in a little more legwork. Go to http://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/lpstore/ and look up 'Tribal Liberation Force' there are more than a few things going for more than 1k ISK an LP as long as you're willing to use your own sell orders.
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Ok, here's the thing. If you are using buy orders to purchase materials, doing something with them, and then selling the final product using sell orders, you could actually be losing money..... Or at least not making anywhere as much profit as you think you are
How? Because you're not taking time into consideration.
People are using those buy and sell orders to buy and sell stock via trading margins. They make their money but suffer from having their money locked up in buy orders, as well as in stock waiting to be sold.
If you are trying to do anything other than basing your LP calculations off of buying off of sell orders, and selling to buy orders, then what you are not doing is taking this margin trading into account, which is a big chunk of the profit based on what you are investing. You could make better returns with your isk doing many other things than trying to squeeze out these artificially high looking LP conversions.....
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I guess it's not a big deal for me because I already have a trade alt selling the stuff, so for me it really takes no additional time and I make an extra ~20% from all my LP... and from everyone Else's LP.
It really doesn't take that much time to set up a trade alt and you'll benefit from it the rest of your EVE career.
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You're not making an extra 20% off of the LP, you're making that off of trading the margins on those items. There is a difference.
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I get 20% more than you do when I trade in my LP, why does it matter?
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Yes, and a miner who mines his own minerals and then manufactures it and sells the finished product at below-mineral cost still makes money. Does that matter as well? Because it's basically the same thing. You're tricking yourself into thinking you're doing something good, when in reality, you're not.
If you wouldn't be willing to sink isk into buy orders for those items to then sell it and make profit on the margins, then you absolutely should not be selling those items using sell orders. Because it means that you know better ways to make isk with money on-hand, and by selling those items on the market like you currently are, you are keeping money out of your hands..... Aka you are losing out on money you could have had, much like a dumbass manufacturer who mines his own minerals would be better off selling the minerals than the finished product.....
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